Man what's up with all this crap about Sakura/Tsunade can't tank a Rasen Shuriken?

[Dockinabix]

No his whole body is enhanced surviving 50 feet drops on spikes with no damage. Base Naruto wouldnt be able to handle the full power of a FRS. If his 50% FRS did slight damage to his arm then the complete one he wont even be able to hold or use.

Base FRS wont delete a body.

He would be able to handle it, but he would be able to use it one or two time max. Naruto can whistand a lot of damage.

And a full non-sm FRS can chop anything into pieces, not vaporise the body.
Even if SM enhance, it's not a monstruously screwed boost.

IF a around 50% powered FRS vaporise everything soft and keep more solid part fully, and the SM-complete vaporise the entire body.
A full non-SM FRS would at least chop the enemy body into small parts or at minima, destroying all his extremities ( legs and arms)
these are assumptions, but based from results facts.

But even though the only full FRS is sage mode, for comparisons, it's this one the most legit one since it's the only complete. You can't compare an incomplete technique vs complete technique, it's biaised as fu**

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

FRS destroys cells and the chakra network,since the Yin Seal uses chakra neither one will survive a direct hit.

 

[RedRobin]

He would be able to handle it, but he would be able to use it one or two time max. Naruto can whistand a lot of damage.

And a full non-sm FRS can chop anything into pieces, not vaporise the body.
Even if SM enhance, it's not a monstruously screwed boost.

IF a around 50% powered FRS vaporise everything soft and keep more solid part fully, and the SM-complete vaporise the entire body.
A full non-SM FRS would at least chop the enemy body into small parts or at minima, destroying all his extremities ( legs and arms)
these are assumptions, but based from results facts.

But even though the only full FRS is sage mode, for comparisons, it's this one the most legit one since it's the only complete. You can't compare an incomplete technique vs complete technique, it's biaised as fu**

Naruto dies if he uses a full powered FRS because he cannot throw it with no power from SM. Meaning he will have to directly hit someone and will take a huge brunt of the attack killing himself.

 

[Dockinabix]

Naruto dies if he uses a full powered FRS because he cannot throw it with no power from SM. Meaning he will have to directly hit someone and will take a huge brunt of the attack killing himself.

You are saying FRS damage is equal for the user and the victim wich is false in a way.

It heavily implies that FRS explodes at contact wich is false. Even if he use a full powered FRS, he will just severely injure his arm since when it's connected, the technique throw out the victim far away before exploding. Read again, and you'll see that nearly any form of rasenshuriken don't explode at contact. ( Against Pein in early stages, he makes it explode at command )

 

[Howling Fox]

They can't. The end.​

i hereby declare this thread dookied on U_U

 

[iKaras]

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i hereby declare this thread dookied on U_U

FRS destroys cells and the chakra network,since the Yin Seal uses chakra neither one will survive a direct hit.

Not a fan of either of those characters, but anybody who believes that is a fool.

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This thread though...It was a great success. TY NB~ ​

 

[Ken Kaneki]

You are saying FRS damage is equal for the user and the victim wich is false in a way.

It heavily implies that FRS explodes at contact wich is false. Even if he use a full powered FRS, he will just severely injure his arm since when it's connected, the technique throw out the victim far away before exploding. Read again, and you'll see that nearly any form of rasenshuriken don't explode at contact. ( Against Pein in early stages, he makes it explode at command )

I agree with him. Unfortunately Paws X, you cannot be correct always

 

[Bantos]

My point is just for clearing your argument with Gerkak about Sozo Seisei

Because I thought you were saying that Tsunade/Sakura can do regeneration when Rasenshuriken still active is that right?

Tsunade's body regenerates the moment the damage is done. FRS deals nano sized puncture wounds. These wounds wouldn't even take a millisecond to regenerate, as she regenerated a huge hole in her torso, including her spine in less than a second.

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You can't regenerate when your body is turned into a burger

This and base Naruto's FRS work in a different fashion.
Of course if Tsunade get's hit by this she can't regenerate the because the body disappears.

mangafacts states she can't


Denying that makes me think where you came
From. I might sign a paper for a trip to a mental asylum

No, she doesn't count sozo saisei when she states it, as she can't use it for others.
She wasn't stating that she can't take a rasenshuriken, she stated she can't heal Naruto's arms damage with her medical ninjutsu.

Destroyed 2 of kakuzu's heart leaving his body immobile

Tsunade is able to regenerate such damage, she has already showcased it.

 

[Team7monaa]

Sakura did regenerate from this which was stated to nullify chakra but I doubt she could regenerate FRS.

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Hiruzen Sarutobi stated that this technique uses attacks that instantly turn their target to dust, similar to Dust Release.Tobirama Senju analysed that this technique can utilise Yin–Yang Release to nullify all ninjutsu the balls touch. As a result, any damage done by this technique to a reincarnated individual who can usually regenerate infinitely cannot be repaired, and said individual could die.

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[Aznkidd]

Sakura did regenerate from this which was stated to nullify chakra but I doubt she could regenerate FRS.

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Hiruzen Sarutobi stated that this technique uses attacks that instantly turn their target to dust, similar to Dust Release.Tobirama Senju analysed that this technique can utilise Yin–Yang Release to nullify all ninjutsu the balls touch. As a result, any damage done by this technique to a reincarnated individual who can usually regenerate infinitely cannot be repaired, and said individual could die.

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It was just a tiny hole, not the entire body.

 

[Team7monaa]

It was just a tiny hole, not the entire body.

Well,if she was capable of healing a small section without fatigue what stops her from healing her entire network.
But like I said she probably won't be able to repair the damage done.

 

[maniaoqan]

Tsunade admitted that she can't heal the damage caused by FRS. She lacks the ability to do so. Why denial ?

Sakura did regenerate from this which was stated to nullify chakra but I doubt she could regenerate FRS.

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Hiruzen Sarutobi stated that this technique uses attacks that instantly turn their target to dust, similar to Dust Release.Tobirama Senju analysed that this technique can utilise Yin–Yang Release to nullify all ninjutsu the balls touch. As a result, any damage done by this technique to a reincarnated individual who can usually regenerate infinitely cannot be repaired, and said individual could die.

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ET is ninjutsu and it got erased.
Sakura isn't ninjutsu, she is a person.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Maybe it harder to heal other people than it is to heal yourself, tsunade couldn't heal the damage of rasenshirken with basic medical ninjutsu yet she reattached herself easily with it,lol, chakra coils and everything

 

[Team7monaa]

Tsunade admitted that she can't heal the damage caused by FRS. She lacks the ability to do so. Why denial ?



ET is ninjutsu and it got erased.
Sakura isn't ninjutsu, she is a person.

But if it nullifies Ninjutsu then it must mean it nullifies chakra which is located in the chakra network where sakura got impaled and repaired.

 

[iKaras]

Sakura did regenerate from this which was stated to nullify chakra but I doubt she could regenerate FRS.
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Hiruzen Sarutobi stated that this technique uses attacks that instantly turn their target to dust, similar to Dust Release.Tobirama Senju analysed that this technique can utilise Yin–Yang Release to nullify all ninjutsu the balls touch. As a result, any damage done by this technique to a reincarnated individual who can usually regenerate infinitely cannot be repaired, and said individual could die.
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Yes ty for your support U_U

Maybe it harder to heal other people than it is to heal yourself, tsunade couldn't heal the damage of rasenshirken with basic medical ninjutsu yet she reattached herself easily with it,lol, chakra coils and everything

This. Even if you deny the OT, @ bold still holds true~ U_U

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Remember~

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[shelke]

Depends upon the FRS. The chakra cut off points is invalid as she was cut in half, meaning her networks were cut off, yet she still healed. FRS from SM Naruto is the limit. Anything above is reaching because the FRS is too big and needles would be tripled in number. Tsunade and Sakura would never be able to heal fast enough. It isn't possible.

I still love the thread. It's humorous, if anything.

Tsunade admitted that she can't heal the damage caused by FRS. She lacks the ability to do so. Why denial ?

ET is ninjutsu and it got erased.
Sakura isn't ninjutsu, she is a person.

No, her point is solid. Even as the ninja is moving, the Chakra is constantly kneaded. These Black Rods (TSB molded) cannot be touched by people, because it directly affects the Chakra. Think about it, Edo Tensai isn't elemental in nature nor is the body itself Ninjutsu. Only the technique is. The body is a reanimated corpse.

Madara was also about to kill Gai with a TSB. If it doesn't affect the body or the chakra networks, the manga wouldn't have made such a big deal out of avoiding them indefinitely. Furthermore, Ninjutsu is nothing but kneaded Chakra. Ninjutsu is materialized Chakra. The Human body functions on it. The point is very valid.

 

[Dockinabix]

Sakura did regenerate from this which was stated to nullify chakra but I doubt she could regenerate FRS.

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Hiruzen Sarutobi stated that this technique uses attacks that instantly turn their target to dust, similar to Dust Release.Tobirama Senju analysed that this technique can utilise Yin–Yang Release to nullify all ninjutsu the balls touch. As a result, any damage done by this technique to a reincarnated individual who can usually regenerate infinitely cannot be repaired, and said individual could die.

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Are you sure what madara used isn't just the black rod of rinnegan users ?

Because what the ET took in their face are the shaped black balls that are in madara's back (like the one naruto has, don't remember the name though), here Madara use a rod coming from his hand like pein/nagato did. It's more logic with the damage done.

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This and base Naruto's FRS work in a different fashion.
Of course if Tsunade get's hit by this she can't regenerate the because the body disappears.

Like I said, stated and proved, There is no "base" FRS, just incomplete and complete with SM enhancement. Even without SM enhancement, a full FRS will shred the opponent into small pieces or at least shread his legs and arms into pieces.

 

[BLAZE]

Are you sure what madara used isn't just the black rod of rinnegan users ?

not really

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though it erases ninjusu[edo] and sakura isn't ninjutsu

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I think we all know that ikaras isn't being serious, but I'm going to cover why the yin seal can't overcome FRS just in case people feel there's a tiny bit of it that's subjective.

The reason why regenerating against an FRS (unless you're a juubi jin) is impossible is because it attacks all the cells in a ninja's body. Regeneration is basically cells making cells. Well, if all cells are damaged to begin with, no new cells will be created. Additionally, the chakra networks are cut. Yin seal chakra still needs to travel through the network to the cells, but there's no way to do this if all the networks are cut.

I am directly using the manga.

There is no reason Tsunade cant survive Base FRS since Kakuzu did. It damages on a cellular level which Byakugo heals on.

There's a huge difference between surviving, and being able to continue fighting. Would Tsunade be able to survive the original base ransenshuriken (disregarding the completed one he'll even use in base)? Yes. Would she be able to regenerate after it? No. Like Kakuzu, all her chakra networks would not simply be closed off like the Hyugas and chakra points, but would be destroyed entirely everywhere. Tsunade's chakra can't reach her body since there's nothing to make it flow there. Therefore, Tsunade would be stuck with the damage that F

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

I like how there's only the same 4 ish trolls debating for Sakura and every few posts any new people that join in ,negate their bullshit instantly with the obvious answer as the voices of reason, common sense, sanity and logic. :L