[Game] Mafia game 11x4 aka game #44

D4 Lylo

  • Rej

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  • Ekkologix

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  • Konno

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Ekkologix

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So let me ask you this

What do you mean by "when called out"? I don't remember anyone "calling me out for it"(what "it" even), I don't know where it's coming from.
And another thing you got wrong or misunderstood is you are saying that i "adjusted accordingly without rej adding any extra posts, signifying the initial read was nonsense" when in reality I never "adjusted" and to me it seems like you are missing something here and making things up.
Here is what I was saying about Rej at the beginning of the game after Rej's initial posts:






And here is what I said after Rej appeared in the game again and was posting and actually playing and helping us resolve the game:

So where is that being "called out for it she/he adjusted it accordingly without rej adding any extra posts, signifying that the initial read was nonsense" coming from?
it's coming from your first 2 reads of rej. there was only 40 posts between these 2 posts by you and rej hasn't got a chance to post between them presumably since it was night time for him (I understand you probably don't know his timezone). after you made the first post i asked you to elaborate why rej is town despite you pointing out something you don't like from him (flooding the thread with non-game related stuff), after which you made your second post which has him as scum and to me felt like a correction after being called out.

Rej - lots of flood in the beginning unrelated to the game and then left/disappeared. Still, I'm leaning more town on Rej because he mentioned he wanted Alexis as town leader and I believe Alexis is town.

Rej - not a strong lean scum, but close to it because we still haven't seen much of Rej after that first appearance at the beginning and there was a lot of shitposting rather than playing the game.


and i didnt like your initial read on rej to begin with because i dont consider his first 3 posts to be flooding with non-game related stuff. he gave early reads on whoever posted at that point and had more content than the other early posters of the first page so where r you seeing the flooding there?
 

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it's coming from your first 2 reads of rej. there was only 40 posts between these 2 posts by you and rej hasn't got a chance to post between them presumably since it was night time for him (I understand you probably don't know his timezone). after you made the first post i asked you to elaborate why rej is town despite you pointing out something you don't like from him (flooding the thread with non-game related stuff), after which you made your second post which has him as scum and to me felt like a correction after being called out.






and i didnt like your initial read on rej to begin with because i dont consider his first 3 posts to be flooding with non-game related stuff. he gave early reads on whoever posted at that point and had more content than the other early posters of the first page so where r you seeing the flooding there?
Let's be clear once and for all with this 'flooding'
Here's Rej's first appearance in this game:
Hiho hombres.

Not a fan of Ekko and Fuji asking Alexis to carry them, simply because I also don't wanna go all out this time. It's mid/early of the week and I am fucking tired a.f.

It's like people already reserving the backseats, when technically no backseats are needed in a 11 player game. Just mutual activity.

Pretty sure you are not lmao. I almost crashed into another car today. And I have very bad heart rythm disorders for a few days/weeks now lol.

But it doesn't mean both of us don't deserve equal resting. :vex:

I get that sleeping thing, same with me. Roughly 4 hours of sleep per day with work is the same.
For me it's just my mom who's in bad health. It seems if this continues she might sit in a wheelchair in a few years. This stuff takes a big toll on the mental for sure.

Also thanks.

I am fine with electing Alexis as town leader. Ofc on trial for now lol.
Where did you see he gave his "early reads on whoever posted at that point and had more content than the other early posters of the first page so where r you seeing the flooding there?"? His only read was in that last post where he says he is fine with Alexis being town leader. That's it. And where do you see he had more content at that point?

Wherever you're coming from feels a bit surface-level. Your reasoning to vote me is only based on that? Can you point to something concrete I did that benefits scum or makes me appear scum in your eyes?
 

Konno

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So I was trying to analyze D1 and here's what I found:
Ekko voted Alexis at the beginning and was not enthused by Daedalus lynch direction.
Fuji voted Konno, then Bradland.
Daedalus voted Rej.
Bradland voted Gutsy.
Gutsy had tiny scum lean on Fuji and Daedalus. Wasn't against Daedalus wagon, but wanted to see stronger reasoning than just vibes.
@Gutsy please elaborate more on why you had tiny scum lean on Fuji and wasn't against daedalus lynch on D1
Haze doesn't see Daedalus as scum and sees Fuji as town.
Elmage voted Gutsy and what's strange is that he asked Gutsy about his thoughts on Daedalus before the EOD.
Lucidus was sus on Fuji and voted Fuji.
@Lucidus please explain your sus on Fuji and give reasoning for it
The more interesting part is that Alexis voted Ekko first. After Daedalus appears, he then immediately votes Daedalus. Right after Alexis votes Daedalus, an hour later Rej appears and votes Daedalus basically for the same reasoning as Alexis and doesn't give his own reasoning per se. Before EOD, Alexis asks Elmage to vote Daedalus.

Why did you @Alexis2282AE ask Elmage to vote Daedalus with literally just minutes left before EOD?
What were your reasoning on voting Daedalus except for basically saying that Daedalus always plays scummy and you didn't like his appearance in the thread?

@Rej here you mention that you are sheeping Alexis and voting Daedalus too but you want to give a good reasoning for it. But you do NOT mention your reasoning?
Then I def agree with putting pressure on Daedalus, aka him being wolfy. Alexis already mentioned the main points on why we should suspect him. Additionally to that, he really seems to be looking for some LHF to focus the fire on, before he gets railed as a wagon.



vote Daedalus

I know I am obviously sheeping Alexis here, but I wanna give a good reasoning for it. Atleast for D1 circumstances.
@Rej @Alexis2282AE please give me your actual reasons why you voted for Daedalus
 

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@Alexis2282AE so basically this is why you wanted to lynch Daedalus:
Pre-emptive excuse?

You could've just came in normally.

You tend to be easier to lynch, so.

Vote lynch bittersweet.

So you're aware that you're late? You've been aware? And for how long exactly?

Because that hyperawareness is >rand wolf.
Doesn't seem like strong or any reasoning at all tbh
 

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Game Solve

Mafia

EkkoLoJinx
bittersweet

Detached Wolf/Indie
Fujishiro
This is from D1, obviously. In your game solve, Daedalus is mafia. He is not. Do you still feel that way about Ekko? Why are you not lynching Ekko but Elmage instead? What changed from your read earlier
 

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This is from D1, obviously. In your game solve, Daedalus is mafia. He is not. Do you still feel that way about Ekko? Why are you not lynching Ekko but Elmage instead? What changed from your read earlier
Nothing changed. I'm just going for him because he's not in there.
 

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Wolves took out Fuji cause he was an actual threat. I am going to look at his posts and try to find those cuddly wolves.
 

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Let's be clear once and for all with this 'flooding'
Here's Rej's first appearance in this game:





Where did you see he gave his "early reads on whoever posted at that point and had more content than the other early posters of the first page so where r you seeing the flooding there?"? His only read was in that last post where he says he is fine with Alexis being town leader. That's it. And where do you see he had more content at that point?

Wherever you're coming from feels a bit surface-level. Your reasoning to vote me is only based on that? Can you point to something concrete I did that benefits scum or makes me appear scum in your eyes?
he was not a fan of me/fuji
and town read alexis

thats a take on 3 out of 4 of the players that posted at that point. that's content. im not saying that necessarily makes him town either. i just dont like your initial read on him and how it was changed after being called out. it makes it look not real.

yes it does make you appear scummy to me that you have a read that i cant relate with the rationale of. if im misrepresenting you feel free to clarify, it's not my intention. scum usually struggle to make coherent reads and i thought your read of rej fit that bill

only thing i cant wrap my head around is why ud kill fuji since he was town reading you and defended you from me. doesnt look like a kill i see you going for unless overruled
 

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I find Gutsy to be making strategic posts. His initial reads were also very strategic. Seems a bit wolfy to me.
 

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he was not a fan of me/fuji
and town read alexis

thats a take on 3 out of 4 of the players that posted at that point. that's content. im not saying that necessarily makes him town either. i just dont like your initial read on him and how it was changed after being called out. it makes it look not real.

yes it does make you appear scummy to me that you have a read that i cant relate with the rationale of. if im misrepresenting you feel free to clarify, it's not my intention. scum usually struggle to make coherent reads and i thought your read of rej fit that bill

only thing i cant wrap my head around is why ud kill fuji since he was town reading you and defended you from me. doesnt look like a kill i see you going for unless overruled
The last question is not addressed to me because I didn't kill Fuji. You'll have to ask the one who killed Fuji.
 

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@Alexis2282AE You're making the same mistake as @Gutsy however, unlike him, we've never played before so I'll explain just one more time. My activity is usually low D1, that's how I play, I try to establish a few players leaning town, it's easier than scum hunting. As long as I don't see something suspicious, I don't necessarily go looking for it.
If I do see something off (in this case, Gutsy) I vote the person and attempt to initiate a convo with them. @Gutsy didn't respond.

If you need to understand my playstyle, you could have just asked for my past games but you didn't. Just like @Gutsy didn't. The difference is Gutsy should know this, given that we've played before especially since @Rej made it a point to mention it in that game because I was (unusually) a bit more active that game. So his statement about my playstyle being concerning, and then not following up by trying to interact with me is the reason I voted for him. I believe I mentioned this reason, but it seems that went right over your head, or perhaps you chose to conveniently ignore it.

Konno gets mentioned twice, but the reasoning is never articulated beyond vibes. Rej and Fujishiro appear in the list with zero prior engagement. The guy is just placing them.
It's intuition, based off their posts, I don't need to write a 100 page essay about why I lean town on them except it's necessary.

Why is he attacking Gutsy's right to have that concern and not the concern itself?
Answered above, and in my previous post after voting him.

There is zero probability that an active town player has NO thoughts about the primary lynch candidate.
This is false. We simply didn't have any interaction

Even if your thought is "I don't know," even if it's "I haven't looked closely," even if it's "he seems like LHF to me". You'd SAY SOMETHING.
This is also misleading, I don't make unnecessary posts, so NOT posting is basically the same as "I don't know" or haven't looked, because simply stating that doesn't provide any information useful to town

Fraud says nothing.
You seem more like the fraud, your tunnel vision almost seem forced.

Elmage voted Gutsy, never articulated a specific concern. The pressure on Gutsy was always performative, and the unvote confirms it.
Again, false. I specifically mentioned that fact that Gutsy should know my playstyle

Towns Konno. Bounce.
Includes three more Townies. Bounce.
Clap for yourself, you commentary on my post is inspiring! This is NAI and you bringing in up doesn't do anything, it might as well be spam posts

Vote probably the most unusual-acting player (Gutsy), and still being unable to say anything specific. Bounce.
False again.

Gutsy isn't around. Unvote. Ask OTHER people about the main wagon target rather than engaging yourself. Bounce.
While I'm still suspicious of Gutsy, the players I trust seem to lean town on him, so I decided to unvote so I can interact with him more D2. I stated this in my post! Am I speaking Spanish or something?

I asked about Daed because I had no thoughts on him, I wanted to get some thoughts from @Rej who I'm leaning town on, he also voted Daed.
Get questioned by someone (Lucidus, I believe?). Deflect entirely. Reverse interrogation. Bounce.
Lucidus? He's just salty from the last game we played because I pressured him D1

Are you telling me Elmage has nothing to say about how robotic it sounds?
What I find concerning is you didn't try to interact with my D1 at all, you were even pushing me to vote Daed at Eod, didn't have any thoughts on me as well, and now you're expecting me to find a single post robotic? Clap for yourself again

if this is genuine, where are the other hallmarks of townie? Where's the deep engagement with the people he has as townie? Where's the reasoning for WHY Konno, Rej, and Fujishiro feel town?
You're expecting deep engagement D1? All you did was try to get Daed lynched D1, you look the scumy one in my book
 
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