Maddara isn't that great without ems

[immortal sage]

I know I'm going to get so much flame for this but whatever

So I don't think maddara is so strong I mean he got ems when he was practically an adult so all he really had was fire style tai jutsu and strong chakra that's really not to special he wasn't that strong or even now hes not to strong ems isn't learned its gained by feeling emotional pain or loss and although you work to make it stronger you don't need to train your ass of to get it you pretty much just have to be born An uchiha if you take that away even naruto is stronger than maddara if you take away his ems and rinnagen naruto would smash even with no kyuubi naruto beats base mode maddy with his sage mode wich he actually learned

It's no question that he is strong but without ems he ain't that tough minato tobirama sarutobi would all smash

 

[Kaneki Kun]

Lord Madara>Your favorite character.
Unless your favorite character is Lord Madara then in that case it doesn't make sense.

 

[ShiroT]

Omg! A uchiha i nothing without there sharingan?!?!_@:

 

[Joker]

Oh lord Jesus, dat grammar
Dat spelling
Dat lack of punctuation
Dat nonsense
Dat blasphemy
Dat foolishness
OT: It's his, don't debunk him.

 

[Bronze]

Obviously taking away someone's power will make him/her weak. Just like taking away Minato's, Tobirama's and Hiruzen's techniques away will make them weak.

 

[KingHashirama]

Still mudstomps 97% of the current generation.

 

[Mitarashi]

Blind madara > Hashirama
Manga fax

 

[Misconception]

Without Ems he would still have Hashirama's Sm and would still be a Juubi jin...

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Depowering characters=them being weak...gee who would've thought?

 

[Solo]

Base Naruto would get raped by base Madara. I know you saw the anime. Madara pretty much raped all of them before activating his EMS.

 

[Da Best Ever]

dude do u not realize the sharingan is part of an uchiha's power, what your *****ing about is like saying if hashirama didnt have mokuton he woudnt be great...


the only shinobi that could beat ms madara was hashirama and ms madara ahs susano and having susano puts him pretty high above most shinobi not to mention ms madara has genjutsu and if u think sm naruto without the kyuubi can beat ms madara then u are a fool because naruto without the kyuubi loses to genjutsu, i dnt knw if madara's genjutsu is powerful enough to severely hurt sm naruto but i do knw madara would be able to subdue him long enought for sm naruto to get smashed by susano

 

[swirlyshark]

So your saying without ms itachi suks without ems sasuke suks without ftg tobirama and minato suk without gates guy suks I can go on forever with ppl who have abilities or things they depend on fact is he can use it cause its his ability

 

[Silent Phantom]

But MS Madara still destroys alot of people.

 

[immortal sage]

Omg! A uchiha i nothing without there sharingan?!?!_@:

Exactly

Oh lord Jesus, dat grammar
Dat spelling
Dat lack of punctuation
Dat nonsense
Dat blasphemy
Dat foolishness
OT: It's his, don't debunk him.

I know language art is my worst subject I suck
Ot:I'm not denouncing his strength but when he got ms he was already an adult so what he had didnt make him all that strong

Obviously taking away someone's power will make him/her weak. Just like taking away Minato's, Tobirama's and Hiruzen's techniques away will make them weak.

Yea but they learned those tech. Maddara just got sad about something and bam he had ms
And if you take away bijju from garra he is still strong and naruto still has sm

 

[immortal sage]

Lord Madara>Your favorite character.
Unless your favorite character is Lord Madara then in that case it doesn't make sense.

To true

Still mudstomps 97% of the current generation.

I know

Depowering characters=them being weak...gee who would've thought?

He didnt have ms until he was already grown so I'm not depowering that version of madara

So your saying without ms itachi suks without ems sasuke suks without ftg tobirama and minato suk without gates guy suks I can go on forever with ppl who have abilities or things they depend on fact is he can use it cause its his ability

They learned those tech madara just got sad about something and bam he is op

But MS Madara still destroys alot of people.

I know theirs no aurguing about that

 

[Devauzamaki]

Uchihas without eyes are as strong as tenten

 

[Conspirator.]

Maybe he wouldn't be "god like"(If that's what you mean) but he's still an absolute beast even without EMS. Let's have a look:
A:Massive juubi sized katons that can set entire armies on fire.(If not for naruto's chakra cloaks, it would have happened to the alliance.)
B: Is an excellent sensor type shinobi.(Sensed hashirama's presence, and also obito's.)
C: High level taijutsu skills. Able to easily react to Ay and Tsunade even when they were transported by Mabui's "speed of light" technique. Also has a high amount of stamina too.
D: Superb genjutsu skills. Was able to make the kyuubi his pet.
E: Susanoo. Even though MS Madara wouldn't have PS, his susanoo would still be hard to beat.
F:Great Weapon skills. His gunbai can deflect attacks, and he easily repelled Naruto mini tailed beast ball.

So yeah, even MS Madara stomps all the ninjas of this generation bar naruto and sasuke. He would still be capable of wiping the majority of the shinobi alliance as well.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Uchihas without eyes are as strong as tenten

Hahahaha no.Most of the elite Uchiha would still be that with or without the Sharingan.

 

[Strawberry]

not that great besides the fact that he'd still pwn 99%nv

 

[Lightbringer]

and Hashirama isn't that great without Mokkuton? Your point?


Madara still has the best Katon Jutsu in the manga with or without his EMS.