Madaras Storm Release

[Jokule67]

Alot of people credit Madaras use of Storm Release(a kekkei genkai) to Rinnegan and claim it can grant you access to any and all Kekkei Genkai.

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I want to raise the bar a little and add my two cents to this jar of confusion.

I believe that the combination of Six Paths Senjutsu AND Rinnegan grants easy access to various kekkei genkai. And here are my reasons.

1) Madara has fought many war battles and copied thousands of techniques, I believe many of which he couldnt even use then like storm release.

2)Madara has never showcased any other jutsu outside of his clan until he became a juubi jin.

3)The ONLY time he used a Kekkei Genkai is when he got Hashis Power. His Sharingan studied Hashi so much that he knew exactly how to do his Wood Style. He even knew how to undo Kabutos Edo Tensei. His Rinnegan didnt grant that.

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4)Truth Seeker Orbs are comprised of all Natures+Yin/Yang and only appear when a person is using Rikudou Senjutsu. Rinnegan also grants Natures+Yin/Yang


Conclusion: I think the most logical conclusion would be that both Powers are what enable you to easily wield every jutsu regardless of bloodline.

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Madara even gained the ability to make Jutsu out of his imagination. He used YIN to make LIGHTNING!!! He entered a realm where he could use any jutsu he desired or thought of.

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[Belserion]

That's nice and all but there is a flaw within your logic.
It was already established that Sharingan cant copy KKGs

So at no point he could have copied Storm Release.

 

[Jokule67]

That's nice and all but there is a flaw within your logic.
It was already established that Sharingan cant copy KKGs

So at no point he could have copied Storm Release.

Sharingan records everything. Thats how he knows how to perform Wood Release. He copied it. Doesnt mean he can perform it.

 

[VVolfVVarrior]

Well Naruto can use Truth seekers orb too, if that is true why he never used jutsu from other elements expect when he used bijuudama with the help from Bijuu. I mean even without sharingan later in time he probably could learn more jutsu, but it never happened. I think that Madara saw to far far away galaxy and decided to become sith with that ligthning

 

[Jokule67]

Well Naruto can use Truth seekers orb too, if that is true why he never used jutsu from other elements expect when he used bijuudama with the help from Bijuu. I mean even without sharingan later in time he probably could learn more jutsu, but it never happened. I think that Madara saw to far far away galaxy and decided to become sith with that ligthning

Naw my point was to say that you need both Rinnegan and Six Paths Senjutsu to use bloodline limits easily.

 

[VVolfVVarrior]

Naw my point was to say that you need both Rinnegan and Six Paths Senjutsu to use bloodline limits easily.

Yeah well Kaguya could probably use everything too. Probably if we could add Hagoromo it would make complete image. It is interesting idea. Not sure about copying fact. Some bloodline jutsu dont use handsings. But Madara was Op so he could make it work.

 

[Jaime the kingslayer]

When you gain rikudo senjutsu you know everything there is about chakra . With this knowledge Madara simply knew how to mix water and lighting to create storm release.

 

[Jokule67]

When you gain rikudo senjutsu you know everything there is about chakra . With this knowledge Madara simply knew how to mix water and lighting to create storm release.

True but the roadblock of Kekkei Genkai still remains. Madara did not use Kkgg until he had both powers, then he used various unique ninjutsu flawlessly.

 

[Jokule67]

Yeah well Kaguya could probably use everything too. Probably if we could add Hagoromo it would make complete image. It is interesting idea. Not sure about copying fact. Some bloodline jutsu dont use handsings. But Madara was Op so he could make it work.

Its not a fact just a hypothesis. Who knows what Mafara encountered in warring ages. He fought the most versatile clan(Senju), and even knew about Dust Release from fighting both the 2nd Tushikage and Ohnoki. He fought other villages also and recorded many jutsu.

Wood Style and Gale Style both use signs.

 

[NextGenNinja]

I think this is probably more Juubi related. It does make sense for anyone with it's power to be able to use all nature KKG.

 

[BlacLord™]

That's nice and all but there is a flaw within your logic.
It was already established that Sharingan cant copy KKGs

So at no point he could have copied Storm Release.

The Sharingan copies ninjutsu. What it can't copy, is jutsu of KKG you don't possess.

OT: I think you have a very good point. The Juubi being a conglomerate of Kaguya and the Shinju is basically the source of all powers, essentially being the substance of all advanced natures. It's also known that possession of an advanced nature brings about dual/triple affinities, which is where the Rinnegan fits; an eye power which pretty much grants you affinity of all basic natures.

 

[Sagebee]

Alot of people credit Madaras use of Storm Release(a kekkei genkai) to Rinnegan and claim it can grant you access to any and all Kekkei Genkai.

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I want to raise the bar a little and add my two cents to this jar of confusion.

I believe that the combination of Six Paths Senjutsu AND Rinnegan grants easy access to various kekkei genkai. And here are my reasons.

1) Madara has fought many war battles and copied thousands of techniques, I believe many of which he couldnt even use then like storm release.

2)Madara has never showcased any other jutsu outside of his clan until he became a juubi jin.

3)The ONLY time he used a Kekkei Genkai is when he got Hashis Power. His Sharingan studied Hashi so much that he knew exactly how to do his Wood Style. He even knew how to undo Kabutos Edo Tensei. His Rinnegan didnt grant that.

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4)Truth Seeker Orbs are comprised of all Natures+Yin/Yang and only appear when a person is using Rikudou Senjutsu. Rinnegan also grants Natures+Yin/Yang


Conclusion: I think the most logical conclusion would be that both Powers are what enable you to easily wield every jutsu regardless of bloodline.

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Madara even gained the ability to make Jutsu out of his imagination. He used YIN to make LIGHTNING!!! He entered a realm where he could use any jutsu he desired or thought of.

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I don't think madara got storm release from his rinnegan it's probably either from his juubi chakra or sage of six path chakra.

 

[Jhin]

I don't think his storm release was like Darui's it was more like focused lightning

 

[Frois]

You've necro'd 10+ threads, minds well give you Edo Tensai.

 

[Mr Hiru]

...I thought that Madara using Wood Release was the result of him getting Hashirama Cells... nothing to do with sharingan... :/

 

[Soulsnipes]

True but the roadblock of Kekkei Genkai still remains. Madara did not use Kkgg until he had both powers, then he used various unique ninjutsu flawlessly.

could he have used those jutsu to have them at his disposal for future battles? to add to his collection possibly.

Also, Naruto has expertise in his jutsu so using new irrelevant jutsu could mess up his plan. Unlike Madara which has more knowledge of new variables and methods to deal with them.

Personally I think it was the rinnegan made his storm release possible but the orbs made him able to transcend into manifesting jutsu like the lightning in the photo.

 

[PROBONOMAN]

Sharingan records everything. Thats how he knows how to perform Wood Release. He copied it. Doesnt mean he can perform it.

madara got his wood release when he implanted Hashi's DNA into his self. Just like Obito, he has Wood Release after having the zetsus fused to his body.