Madara's Sharingan

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What if (This maybe insane) What if EMS makes your eye so powerful that the user can create the MS jutsu without activating the 4th stage. Madara uses a his space-time jutsu, it clearly comes from his sharingan eye. Madara is the only confirmed EMS user to have gained EMS.

The purpose is your only using half the eyes power. That's also why he uses the jutsu and it looks like he's not losing any chakra. It would make so much since as to why EMS is so great. If Naruto faced Sasuke, Sasuke would be dead in the water after about 10 minuets.
 

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I know it may be a little out there and I don't really have any proof yet, but I think Madara is really Sasake's and Itachi's father( I know he was "killed", but so was madara) or another member of the clan. I think the Sixth coffin is Madara.
it couldent have been their father or he wouldnt have had almost taken off his mask in front of sasuke but was prevented because of itachis amaterasu, and if he wanted to show himself to sasuke why tell him he was madara if he would have been his father

madara sharingan wont open becasue of his third eye in the fore head
omg he doesent have a third eye its just painted on the mask so that it represents the juubi or whatever eye ...
 

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FOR FUTURE REFERENCES! NOBODY HAS EVER HAD EMS EXCEPT MADARA AND SASUKE! EMS IS NOT JUS A REGUALR ADVANCEMENT IN THE SHARINGAN! EMS=E.ternal M.angekkyo S.haringan. It is gained by taking the eyes of a sibiling who has also awakend the MS=Mangekkyo Sharignan. Me i wuznt for sure if Izagani sealed one or both of the sharigan eyes. If it only does one than that explains why madara now only has his one sharigan and his emplanted rinnegan.
Izanagi isn't a MS technique. A three tomoe sharingan can use it but the user needs senju and uchiha cells to use it. Also Madara couldn't have used Izanagi when fighting shodaime because he hasn't acquired his cells yet.
 

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it couldent have been their father or he wouldnt have had almost taken off his mask in front of sasuke but was prevented because of itachis amaterasu, and if he wanted to show himself to sasuke why tell him he was madara if he would have been his father
Well hypothetically if it was his father, Sasake would have still proc-ed amaterasu for the fact that Itachi set amaterasu to go off when Sasake's eyes meet Madara's. My question to this and you, is why after the amaterasu did he still not reveal his face?

Another thing is who started the coup d'état? Their father.
 
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Well hypothetically if it was his father, Sasake would have still proc-ed amaterasu for the fact that Itachi set amaterasu to go off when Sasake's eyes meet Madara's. My question to this and you, is why after the amaterasu did he still not reveal his face?

Another thing is who started the coup d'état? Their father.
my POINT was if he was his father and he wanted sasuke to know he would just tell him sincwe he wanted to show his face anyway ... YET HE INSISTS that he is Madara
 

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my POINT was if he was his father and he wanted sasuke to know he would just tell him sincwe he wanted to show his face anyway ... YET HE INSISTS that he is Madara
I got your point the first time, but hypothetically if Madara was about to reveal that he was indeed Sasake's father and then the black flames comes at his face he would have a reason to hide it.

BTW: I am not saying for sure it is their father. I am just working around the idea that Madara is not Madara.
 

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hey guys i am new to the site. thanx for having me. i would like to ask the queisstion and i may be in the wrong place to ask, but why has no one ever suggested the possibility of madara being shisui? he does seem to be able to control people without them possibly knowing huh? Where is his other eye? and it would also explain y he wanted the one Danzo had so badly.
 

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Just throwing this out there but when Madara was taking his mask off to show Sasuke his face (right before the ameretsu that Itachi implanted in him activated) don't you think he would have realise it was his father or anybody else in the clan that was alive at the time of the massacre?
 

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so madara only have one ems now by the way he has really strong chakara

if itachi had the ems do u guys think that anyone would be able to beat him
 

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hey guys i am new to the site. thanx for having me. i would like to ask the queisstion and i may be in the wrong place to ask, but why has no one ever suggested the possibility of madara being shisui? he does seem to be able to control people without them possibly knowing huh? Where is his other eye? and it would also explain y he wanted the one Danzo had so badly.
Welcome to the base.
Ive thought about and postulated this idea as well. It would make sense if you read the Dialogue or watch the last two or three episodes of the anime about the Kage summit. Danzos eye has Shusuis ablility and chakra color, Ao saved and released the Mizkage from the same juitsu. And in the manga madara is controling the 4th Mizkage when he recruits Kisame. So its likely that it could be him,and just using a transformation juitsu like Orochimaru did.


But durning Madaras battle with Konan he used Izangi locking the last eye of Shisui into darknes. Just my theory and take on it. Because the uchiha had his body before their demise, and then when Kabuto went looking for it its gone. So somethings up. I want to see Ao in battle and see Madara and see hwat he says.
 

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Well hypothetically if it was his father, Sasake would have still proc-ed amaterasu for the fact that Itachi set amaterasu to go off when Sasake's eyes meet Madara's. My question to this and you, is why after the amaterasu did he still not reveal his face?

Another thing is who started the coup d'état? Their father.
Huh, wouldn't the ameterasu just come out again whenever he reveals his face / sharingan?
Or was it a one-time thing?
Wait, I'm stupid, has Madara ever deactivated his sharingan to begin with?
(Can he?) >.> "
Anyway, he probably didn't for safety measures, after seeing that first ameterasu, and was suspicous...?
 

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Huh, wouldn't the ameterasu just come out again whenever he reveals his face / sharingan?
Or was it a one-time thing?
Wait, I'm stupid, has Madara ever deactivated his sharingan to begin with?
(Can he?) >.> "
Anyway, he probably didn't for safety measures, after seeing that first ameterasu, and was suspicous...?
If Sasuke looks into Madara's sharingan, Amaterasu will activate by itself.
That's why he had to put the mask on,
In the anime, while talking to Sasuke about Itachi, this one scene, his sharingan was deactivated.
 

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Welcome to the base.
Ive thought about and postulated this idea as well. It would make sense if you read the Dialogue or watch the last two or three episodes of the anime about the Kage summit. Danzos eye has Shusuis ablility and chakra color, Ao saved and released the Mizkage from the same juitsu. And in the manga madara is controling the 4th Mizkage when he recruits Kisame. So its likely that it could be him,and just using a transformation juitsu like Orochimaru did.
This is rather proof that Madara is NOT Shisui because the moment Madara warps into the summit, Ao would recognise his Shisui chakra as well if he was indeed Shisui.
 

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Where was Ao when Madara showed up? Oh yeah he just happened to chase after Danzo, before Madara shows up. Kind of convient.... Lol

Chapter465 pg12 or 11
 
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