[Discussion] Madara's hair + mask...

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Hi everybody,

I was rereading some old chapters and I got some thought that I want to share...
So the first thing is about his hair. We all know how he looked in his primetime-long hair, Uchiha like-.
After he lost to Hasirama Senju at the valley at the end, he vanished and we saw him in the manga again 16 years ago (in manga-time, now is the time of chapter 536) fighting Minato with cut hair, without his weapon and with a mask and with space-time powers.

Then we see him again before the Uchiha-clan slaughter, speaking to Itachi, with the same mask, without his weapon and with his normal hair cut.

Then we saw him joining Akatsuki as Tobi, with a new mask, cut hair and still without his weapon

Now we see him with a a new mask presenting his new powers, same haircut and with his weapon.


So do you see a link between his maskchanges and his hairs? I don't know any character in Naruto whose hair grows or even changes his clothes (mask).
Why would he cut his hairs after the defeat? Maybe to stay icognito. But why let his hair grow again and appear in Konoha (Somewhere there where Itachi noticed him)? And then why did he cut his hair again when he kidnapped Naruto?
Why did he change the mask when he joined Akatsuki? To be unknown again since he attacked once Konoha nin with another mask? Imo no because a mask is suspicious anyway, and both are orange or at least have the same surface structure.
We know that he changed his mask after he gained a new power- Nagato's Rinnegan. He probably uses his weapon and the Uchiha clothes again because everyone knows now who he is, but why does he then still hide his face behind a mask? And why didn't he change himself when he presented himself to the kages?
So does it mean he changes his mask when he gained a new power? He wears a mask since he hasn't the EMS anymore/doesn't use his EMS anymore, but what changed when he changed the mask? He still has the space time jutsu, but not something in addition. And it really bothers me why his hair was long again when Itachi noticed him.
We could assume that he could have changed the body like Orochimaru, but then his hair should have been long at Minato's time and cut at Itachi's time, then the theory about Madara having Shisui's Body could be true.
EDIT: Since he transplanted one Rinnegan, he's also able to use jutsu like the summoning jutsu as we saw in the recent chapter.

What are your thoughts about that? Do you think it's just random that he forgot to cut his hair when he was near Konoha and that he changed his mask? Thanks for reading and share your thoughts!
 
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In my opinion I still think he's Obito lol, I dont know why... I just have a feeling... I always have thaught theat Tobi was Obito, maybe posing to be Madara Uchiha? The problem is the EMS and the Teleporting... I undrstand but wtf, you do realize that tobi has Obito's hair.

I dunno, i just dont know xd.
 

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there are so many candidates
for tobi

and there is a fact that danzo and tobi met @ uchia massacare thats a clue

but candiadates
KAgami uchia because of the relationship between

possibly madaras old student
obito

because why did tobi tell kakashi that jutsu wont woork on me meaning concern for kakashi why not let kakashi use that jutsu and thus weaken him



tobi is neither uchia
as some theories say

he has and advanced enchanced body of zetsu similar to harashimas clone

in that same saying he can use izangai
i dont know lets stop making threads until tobi reveals his true identity
 

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Tobi has the same hair cut as always, when we see him with he long hair (Madara's hair) he is telling a story to Sasuke, so he can be lying about his appearance.
he never told sasuke about his appearance D:

as for the thread:
he cut his hair because he's tired of him old look, but he had too much things to do n his hair grew back, then he cut it again
 

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Tobi has the same hair cut as always, when we see him with he long hair (Madara's hair) he is telling a story to Sasuke, so he can be lying about his appearance.
How do you know?
he never told sasuke about his appearance D:

as for the thread:
he cut his hair because he's tired of him old look, but he had too much things to do n his hair grew back, then he cut it again
How do you know?
 

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Hi everybody,

I was rereading some old chapters and I got some thought that I want to share...
So the first thing is about his hair. We all know how he looked in his primetime-long hair, Uchiha like-.
After he lost to Hasirama Senju at the valley at the end, he vanished and we saw him in the manga again 16 years ago (in manga-time, now is the time of chapter 536) fighting Minato with cut hair, without his weapon and with a mask and with space-time powers.

Then we see him again before the Uchiha-clan slaughter, speaking to Itachi, with the same mask, without his weapon and with his normal hair cut.

Then we saw him joining Akatsuki as Tobi, with a new mask, cut hair and still without his weapon

Now we see him with a a new mask presenting his new powers, same haircut and with his weapon.


So do you see a link between his maskchanges and his hairs? I don't know any character in Naruto whose hair grows or even changes his clothes (mask).
Why would he cut his hairs after the defeat? Maybe to stay icognito. But why let his hair grow again and appear in Konoha (Somewhere there where Itachi noticed him)? And then why did he cut his hair again when he kidnapped Naruto?
Why did he change the mask when he joined Akatsuki? To be unknown again since he attacked once Konoha nin with another mask? Imo no because a mask is suspicious anyway, and both are orange or at least have the same surface structure.
We know that he changed his mask after he gained a new power- Nagato's Rinnegan. He probably uses his weapon and the Uchiha clothes again because everyone knows now who he is, but why does he then still hide his face behind a mask? And why didn't he change himself when he presented himself to the kages?
So does it mean he changes his mask when he gained a new power? He wears a mask since he hasn't the EMS anymore/doesn't use his EMS anymore, but what changed when he changed the mask? He still has the space time jutsu, but not something in addition. And it really bothers me why his hair was long again when Itachi noticed him.
We could assume that he could have changed the body like Orochimaru, but then his hair should have been long at Minato's time and cut at Itachi's time, then the theory about Madara having Shisui's Body could be true.
EDIT: Since he transplanted one Rinnegan, he's also able to use jutsu like the summoning jutsu as we saw in the recent chapter.

What are your thoughts about that? Do you think it's just random that he forgot to cut his hair when he was near Konoha and that he changed his mask? Thanks for reading and share your thoughts!
The more I thought about Madara's hair changes, the more this answer kept popping into my mind:

It's simply a manga mistake.

Like you and other people have said, no one's hair changes through the series. Sakura's hair is the only one's that was cut in battle and since that time, she has always kept it the same length. It makes very little sense that Madara would cut it, let it grow out again and cut it again. Especially since he was staying under the radar, he wouldn't want to grow it out.

Honestly, I am quite confident that Kishi made a mistake when Making his hair long in his discussion with Itachi. Consider this:

The chapter that we saw Madara talking with Itachi was what? Around 400? And when did we see Madara fight the 4th? Around 500? There is a huuuge real-world time gap there. Keep in mind, that even though Kishi is the master mind of the Naruto universe, even he will debate small details here and there and make small design changes as he sees fit.

I honestly think that he decided to give Madara the "Tobi" appearance when he fought the 4th at a point in time after he released the chapter where Itachi conversed with Madara. Either that, or he planned on giving Madara the "Tobi" appearance at every point after his fight with the first, but mistakenly made a couple panels with Madara looking normal. Seems like it would be an easy thing to do when you have so many things packed in your mind in regard to a huge story your telling.

Again, I think his changing hair is a substantial manga mistake. Here's probably the biggest piece of evidence supporting it, if he had his short hair when talking with Itachi, then his hair would not have changed at all as time has passed, rather than changing three times. Opinions??
 

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I don't see why people keep discussing this, you will never find an answer till it is in the manga, so there is no real point.
 

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Why argue over Madaras hair does it really matter? So he cut it after his defeat by the first hokage. Then after his assault on the village and fight with the fourth hokage grew it back out as we see in the flashback with him and Itachi. After helping to kill the Uchiha clan cut it again. Judging from this he cut his hair off after some important events.
 

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I think there are actualy 2 Madaras out there, 1 is made of zetsu stuff and Madara DNA and the other one is the original one but hes very weak since hes old.
And i think Madaras plan from the start is to be immortal + btw to conquer the world
 

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Hi everybody,

I was rereading some old chapters and I got some thought that I want to share...
So the first thing is about his hair. We all know how he looked in his primetime-long hair, Uchiha like-.
After he lost to Hasirama Senju at the valley at the end, he vanished and we saw him in the manga again 16 years ago (in manga-time, now is the time of chapter 536) fighting Minato with cut hair, without his weapon and with a mask and with space-time powers.

Then we see him again before the Uchiha-clan slaughter, speaking to Itachi, with the same mask, without his weapon and with his normal hair cut.

Then we saw him joining Akatsuki as Tobi, with a new mask, cut hair and still without his weapon

Now we see him with a a new mask presenting his new powers, same haircut and with his weapon.


So do you see a link between his maskchanges and his hairs? I don't know any character in Naruto whose hair grows or even changes his clothes (mask).
Why would he cut his hairs after the defeat? Maybe to stay icognito. But why let his hair grow again and appear in Konoha (Somewhere there where Itachi noticed him)? And then why did he cut his hair again when he kidnapped Naruto?
Why did he change the mask when he joined Akatsuki? To be unknown again since he attacked once Konoha nin with another mask? Imo no because a mask is suspicious anyway, and both are orange or at least have the same surface structure.
We know that he changed his mask after he gained a new power- Nagato's Rinnegan. He probably uses his weapon and the Uchiha clothes again because everyone knows now who he is, but why does he then still hide his face behind a mask? And why didn't he change himself when he presented himself to the kages?
So does it mean he changes his mask when he gained a new power? He wears a mask since he hasn't the EMS anymore/doesn't use his EMS anymore, but what changed when he changed the mask? He still has the space time jutsu, but not something in addition. And it really bothers me why his hair was long again when Itachi noticed him.
We could assume that he could have changed the body like Orochimaru, but then his hair should have been long at Minato's time and cut at Itachi's time, then the theory about Madara having Shisui's Body could be true.
EDIT: Since he transplanted one Rinnegan, he's also able to use jutsu like the summoning jutsu as we saw in the recent chapter.

What are your thoughts about that? Do you think it's just random that he forgot to cut his hair when he was near Konoha and that he changed his mask? Thanks for reading and share your thoughts!
You are right, well I always thought that Madara was a change of personalities, first he appears as a funny character and Zetsu called him an idiot, WEIRD
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But after Deidara's death he suddenly became serious???
 

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You are right, well I always thought that Madara was a change of personalities, first he appears as a funny character and Zetsu called him an idiot, WEIRD
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But after Deidara's death he suddenly became serious???
madara was acting like that because he was under cover and to make sure that nobody knew it was him he acted a complete oppisite of himself.
 
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