Madara > your favorite character

[shelke]

the manga doesnt constantly say "stop".


the fight is pretty clear. madara came to VOTE and challenged hashirama in order to obtain his cells(doesnt mean he held back as you can acquire cells from a dead body and why would madara hold back against someone he detested?) to become a rikudou and advance his plans. he lost in a legit all out fight but survived and obtained some of hashiramas cells.

I am talking about the current Madara? He has never used anything other than 'stop'. Yes, Madara lost, but manga has built them up as equally powerful shinobis, who fought countless battles and no one came out a victor. This should be a clear indicator that Hashirama isn't more powerful than Madara. Like I said, we need to see the fight in the manga. Because this is the 'only' fight between them where Hashirama barely won.

 

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[Waltz]

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Haha! this kind can't even beat a cold much less madara.

 

[PredictionGuru]

Haha! this kind can't even beat a cold much less madara.

PFFT
all the more reason for him to become a one badass mofo in the future

we all know what happened with obito

 

[TheSages456]

Am not sure what your reading but the bold is profoundly false. Madara didn't have the rinnegan nor mokuton duing the days he fought against hashi.

"Can" and "could" can't be the same context and what madara said is hype anyway...it can be proven false if he is stopped by someone else other than Hashirama.

stop picking out parts of my posts because the context becomes vastly different when you do that.
madaras full power is perfect susano as stated by himself just like it was at VOTE. it doesnt matter if other people can stop madara. he still thinks that hashirama can stop him regardless.

depending on the context of the page and the point of the statement "can" and "could" can be interchangeable.

 

[Murasame]

according to kishi, hashirama>all forms of madara. go talk to him about this. you can get dna from a dead body and he wouldnt have bothered with bringing the kyuubi if he was holding back.


1st bold-all forms madara have perfect susano as their full power. when using their full power which is perfect susano, their strength is equal and hashirama is above that.

2nd bold-you have madara shouting that only hashirama could ever stop him while using perfect susano but saying that he used perfect susano is speculation. nope. its heavily implied that he did.

hashirama beating madara is basically foreshadowed.

Yeah and he has rinnegan activated while using perfect susanoo so we don't know if he unlocked it with the Rinnegan. Even if it is implied which its not I'm not going to believe it until I see an actual manga page stating he used perfect susanoo in his fight against Hashi. So until you show me proof what ever you say is just speculation. Sorry but Madara wasn't shouting it he was just simply saying it. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he say Hashirama WAS the only who can stop him? I think he was using past tense.

 

[Waltz]

stop picking out parts of my posts because the context becomes vastly different when you do that.
madaras full power is perfect susano as stated by himself just like it was at VOTE. it doesnt matter if other people can stop madara. he still thinks that hashirama can stop him regardless.

depending on the context of the page and the point of the statement "can" and "could" can be interchangeable.

Are you trying to deny the fact that he has more arsenal on hand at the moment? some capable of even more damage than Perfect susano'o ?Are you also ignoring the fact that The Rinnengan on it's own it more than capable of stopping Hashirama and his mokuton?

don't underestimate Madara's potential.

 

[TheSages456]

Yeah and he has rinnegan activated while using perfect susanoo so we don't know if he unlocked it with the Rinnegan. Even if it is implied which its not I'm not going to believe it until I see an actual manga page stating he used perfect susanoo in his fight against Hashi. So until you show me proof what ever you say is just speculation. Sorry but Madara wasn't shouting it he was just simply saying it. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he say Hashirama WAS the only who can stop him? I think he was using past tense.

we only saw him use his v3 susano with legs so does that mean that he needs the rinnegan for that to? susano is an ms/ems tech so you have no argument here.

if you want to cry and say that hashirama never saw madaras susano then that isnt my problem. take this up with kishimoto.

if you looked at the full context of the page, madara saying "was" or could wouldnt even matter. he also said "and he is no longer with us" implying that if hashirama was there, he would beat madara.

 

[TheSages456]

Are you trying to deny the fact that he has more arsenal on hand at the moment? some capable of even more damage than Perfect susano'o ?Are you also ignoring the fact that The Rinnengan on it's own it more than capable of stopping Hashirama and his mokuton?

don't underestimate Madara's potential.

none of madaras other techs are as strong as his perfect susano and this is stated. your argument is voided right there.

 

[Hipster Madara]

Inception?

 

[Waltz]

none of madaras other techs are as strong as his perfect susano and this is stated. your argument is voided right there.

Read Chapter 560 the last page/Chapter 561 the first page.

 

[TheSages456]

Read Chapter 560 the last page/Chapter 561 the first page.

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[Murasame]

we only saw him use his v3 susano with legs so does that mean that he needs the rinnegan for that to? susano is an ms/ems tech so you have no argument here.

if you want to cry and say that hashirama never saw madaras susano then that isnt my problem. take this up with kishimoto.

if you looked at the full context of the page, madara saying "was" or could wouldnt even matter. he also said "and he is no longer with us" implying that if hashirama was there, he would beat madara.

I hate arguing with people like you who say that im crying over stuff. Tell me how just how? Please you're just to ignorant to understand that this Madara is way stronger than the Madara who Hashirama fought. And since youre going to use Kishi in this argument then I'll use him too. Because guess what he hasn't said anything about Madara using perfect Susanoo or any of the Rinnegan + Mokuton abilities shown so far by Madara. How is he going to stop two Meteors by Madara? Just please tell me. You're either a Hashi fanboy or you're just ignorant. All you have to back up is just assumptions saying Madara used perfect susanoo when it hasn't been stated. Please come back with actual proof otherwise don't even reply because I don't want to see anymore assumptions which haven't been shown.

 

[TheSages456]

I hate arguing with people like you who say that im crying over stuff. Tell me how just how? Please you're just to ignorant to understand that this Madara is way stronger than the Madara who Hashirama fought. And since youre going to use Kishi in this argument then I'll use him too. Because guess what he hasn't said anything about Madara using perfect Susanoo or any of the Rinnegan + Mokuton abilities shown so far by Madara. How is he going to stop two Meteors by Madara? Just please tell me. You're either a Hashi fanboy or you're just ignorant. All you have to back up is just assumptions saying Madara used perfect susanoo when it hasn't been stated. Please come back with actual proof otherwise don't even reply because I don't want to see anymore assumptions which haven't been shown.

you want me to give proof that madara used susano at VOTE? give me proof that hashirama used his healing or the flower world at VOTE. i can easily say that hashirama only used standard mokuton and the wood dragon to beat madara & kyuubi because there is no proof that he used any other techs.

 

[Murasame]

Are you trying to deny the fact that he has more arsenal on hand at the moment? some capable of even more damage than Perfect susano'o ?Are you also ignoring the fact that The Rinnengan on it's own it more than capable of stopping Hashirama and his mokuton?

don't underestimate Madara's potential.

This^ But its pointless to argue with this Guy he thinks that the Madara Hashi fought equals current Madara. He's to ignorant.

 

[Waltz]

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This^ But its pointless to argue with this Guy he thinks that the Madara Hashi fought equals current Madara. He's to ignorant.

I'm getting that impression also. He seems too conceited in his far fetched belief.

 

[TheSages456]

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PS already busted the meteor, the landscape and 3 mountains. its obviously superior. madara said that PS is his full power and the meteor is shown to be nothing compared to it.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

This thread makes me sad. When I made a thread about Sai that parodied stupid threads like this it got blocked. I actually happen to really like Madara. but F**k your thread, any opportunity to force your OPINION (opinion being the key word here) on other people and you'll do it.

Keep your raging hard-on for a fictional character in your head please. This thread didn't even have a statement or a point to make, it was literally- I liek madara and he is strongest lol.

And you can avoid it all you want, basically everytime Madara or Hashirama are mentioned Kishimoto clearly states how Hashirama defeated him and the Kyuubi at once. There's no denying that. Madara is just a ninja. A fictional, OP little ninja.

 

[LeEvilTongue]

Heskey?

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

What if your favorite character is Gohan?