Madara > your favorite character

[Murasame]

half-assed argument is half-assed. you have to be stronger than someone in order to stop them. im not asking you to believe anything im just telling you that kishi & madara say that hashirama would beat madara.

if PS cant stop hashirama then none of madaras weaker techs can.

I agree that Hashirama>Ems Madara but to say Hashirama>Rinnegan Madara is just an assumption. Rinnegan Madara is on a whole different level to Ems Madara. I mean come on Naruto and Gaara would've defeated Madara with his ems if he didn't switch to Rinnegan. Not only that but Madara has hashirama's techniques. Besides Dan hasn't seen much of what Current Madara can do so you can't really believe that. We'll just have to wait and see what happens but most likely Madara may be stronger than Hashi now. And you have no proof to back up that Madara used his Perfect Susanoo against Hashi. That's just speculation.

 

[SilverSlick]

currently, he could do the same.

bla bla bla! he blocked A's punch, he could've blocked Lee's kick.

And i disagree with the bold. A's faster and the sharingan can follow opponents attacks.

Quit denying it. Otherwise he would have blocked Lee's attack. Am I right?

 

[SasukeUchiha910]

Lol, Naruto >> Madara.

fandoy

 

[Imperius]

1) When Madara fought at Vote, he wasn't fighting to kill..he was fighting for the DNA. this imply's he was holding back being that his focus wasn't "killing".

2) Hashirama WAS stronger than Madara at somepoint i would agree. but now? no.

for so many years people have been saying this, if that's so then why didn't madara just kill him and take his body or something like that?

 

[PredictionGuru]

Madara wants wood.
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[Waltz]

for so many years people have been saying this, if that's so then why didn't madara just kill him and take his body or something like that?

Out of Respect.

 

[TheSages456]

1) When Madara fought at Vote, he wasn't fighting to kill..he was fighting for the DNA. this imply's he was holding back being that his focus wasn't "killing".

2) Hashirama WAS stronger than Madara at somepoint i would agree. but now? no.

according to kishi, hashirama>all forms of madara. go talk to him about this. you can get dna from a dead body and he wouldnt have bothered with bringing the kyuubi if he was holding back.

I agree that Hashirama>Ems Madara but to say Hashirama>Rinnegan Madara is just an assumption. Rinnegan Madara is on a whole different level to Ems Madara. I mean come on Naruto and Gaara would've defeated Madara with his ems if he didn't switch to Rinnegan. Not only that but Madara has hashirama's techniques. Besides Dan hasn't seen much of what Current Madara can do so you can't really believe that. We'll just have to wait and see what happens but most likely Madara may be stronger than Hashi now. And you have no proof to back up that Madara used his Perfect Susanoo against Hashi. That's just speculation.

1st bold-all forms madara have perfect susano as their full power. when using their full power which is perfect susano, their strength is equal and hashirama is above that.

2nd bold-you have madara shouting that only hashirama could ever stop him while using perfect susano but saying that he used perfect susano is speculation. nope. its heavily implied that he did.

hashirama beating madara is basically foreshadowed.

 

[shelke]

Madara is pretty cool, but I have always found Sasuke to be cooler.

half-assed argument is half-assed. you have to be stronger than someone in order to stop them. im not asking you to believe anything im just telling you that kishi & madara say that hashirama would beat madara.

if PS cant stop hashirama then none of madaras weaker techs can.

Manga has also stated this:

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- We have yet to see how Hashirama bested Madara, as the manga itself puts them on equal grounds before that faithful battle. Henceforth, this stop could also mean a dead-lock or defeat for both. As no where has Madara said that the fight will result in a victory for Madara, or he could 'defeat' me. He's constantly using 'stop' not 'defeat'.

Anyways, I believe we need two to three chapters on this fight. I know I am not the only one who wants to clear some confusions.

 

[TheSages456]

Madara is pretty cool, but I have always found Sasuke to be cooler.



Manga has also stated this:

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- We have yet to see how Hashirama bested Madara, as the manga itself puts them on equal grounds before that faithful battle. Henceforth, this stop could also mean a dead-lock or defeat for both. As no where has Madara said that the fight will result in a victory for Madara, or he could 'defeat' me. He's constantly using 'stop' not 'defeat'.

Anyways, I believe we need two to three chapters on this fight. I know I am not the only one who wants to clear some confusions.

the manga doesnt constantly say "stop".

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the fight is pretty clear. madara came to VOTE and challenged hashirama in order to obtain his cells(doesnt mean he held back as you can acquire cells from a dead body and why would madara hold back against someone he detested?) to become a rikudou and advance his plans. he lost in a legit all out fight but survived and obtained some of hashiramas cells.

 

[Waltz]

according to kishi, hashirama>all forms of madara. go talk to him about this. you can get dna from a dead body and he wouldnt have bothered with bringing the kyuubi if he was holding back.

Wrong. What kishi is saying is that Hashirama is the only person who COULD EVER stop madara. It couldn't mean presently simply because hashirama was dead when the statement was made and also because Madara currently is alot stronger and more Haxed than the version Hashirama fought. What your trying to imply isn't there bro.

 

[Megamkfan]

Ino>Entire Narutoverse

 

[Twin Steps]

Edo Madara, but EMS Madara could get his butt handed to him Tsunade alone.

 

[TheSages456]

Wrong. What kishi is saying is that Hashirama is the only person who COULD EVER stop madara. It couldn't mean presently simply because hashirama was dead when the statement was made and also because Madara currently is alot stronger and more Haxed than the version Hashirama fought. What your trying to imply isn't there bro.

his full power is the same from VOTE thus when he is at the peak of his power(a power he needs to match hashirama) he is the same madara that hashirama fought. madara said that only hashirama could ever stop him and that he was no longer with them. it clearly means that hashirama could beat him if he was there.

in the japanese text madara says that hashirama can stop him. in the viz, the point of the page is the same, just worded differently and the context is obviously the same despite the tenses. with that said your argument is shut down.

 

[CharlieBundels]

My friend, you're mistaken as my favourite character is none other than;

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It may be hard to accept, but you should deal with it :drive:

 

[Waltz]

Edo Madara, but EMS Madara could get his butt handed to him Tsunade alone.

Your not serious? Tsunade loses to genjutsu alone.

 

[Boston Rob]

I think you need to listen some bird sounds that's relaxing

 

[Minator93]

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Tobi shits on Madara :noc:

 

[Waltz]

his full power is the same from VOTE thus when he is at the peak of his power(a power he needs to match hashirama) he is the same madara that hashirama fought. madara said that only hashirama could ever stop him and that he was no longer with them. it clearly means that hashirama could beat him if he was there.

in the japanese text madara says that hashirama can stop him. in the viz, the point of the page is the same, just worded differently and the context is obviously the same despite the tenses. with that said your argument is shut down.

Am not sure what your reading but the bold is profoundly false. Madara didn't have the rinnegan nor mokuton duing the days he fought against hashi.

"Can" and "could" can't be the same context and what madara said is hype anyway...it can be proven false if he is stopped by someone else other than Hashirama.

 

[Salad]

Wrong. Nagato > Madara U_U

 

[Waltz]

Wrong. Nagato > Madara U_U

You mean that guy caught in drunken dreams? nah, don't think so. U_U