Madara ( with Rinne Sharingan ) vs Hamura ( Tenseigan)

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Hamura is arguably on par with Hagoromo during their fight against Kaguya, and the former didn't have the Tenseigan. That same Hagoromo, who is arguably on par with Hamura, is also on par with JJ Madara at full power. Give Hamura the Tenseigan (which seems to be near equivalent to the boost Juubi Jinchuuriki get) and he'd rise to JJ Hagoromo's tier.

In summary. Hamura shits.
 

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Hamura is arguably on par with Hagoromo during their fight against Kaguya, and the former didn't have the Tenseigan. That same Hagoromo, who is arguably on par with Hamura, is also on par with JJ Madara at full power. Give Hamura the Tenseigan (which seems to be near equivalent to the boost Juubi Jinchuuriki get) and he'd rise to JJ Hagoromo's tier.

In summary. Hamura shits.
Hamura shits
Counter to infinite tsukuyomi? Didn't think so nor can he sense or see limbo madara low dif
 

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Counter to infinite tsukuyomi? Didn't think so nor can he sense or see limbo madara low dif
IT is never happening. It's gonna be hard for him to use it when Hamura splits his ass in half with absolutely no difficulty. Lmfao @ Limbo. Tenseigan grants Gudo Dama, so it's possible that he can sense them. Even if he can't, it's irrelevant. Limbo can't do anything significant to him.
 

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IT is never happening. It's gonna be hard for him to use it when Hamura splits his ass in half with absolutely no difficulty. Lmfao @ Limbo. Tenseigan grants Gudo Dama, so it's possible that he can sense them. Even if he can't, it's irrelevant. Limbo can't do anything significant to him.
He can most likely sense them because in the Last even without Tenseigan activated he has Gudoudama which means he has Six Paths Senjutsu which means he can sense Limbo.
 

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Chances are Tenseigan can see Limbo, because reasons. Or Hamura could sence them. I still think Madara would win, because ootsutsuki's are the only exception to my Madara hating, and SERIOUSLY, WHAT CAN HAMURA DO? Not asking how he counters X, or avoids Y. We know NOTHING about Hamura's abilites except that he's even worse at leaving instructions than Hagoromo.
 

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IT is never happening. It's gonna be hard for him to use it when Hamura splits his ass in half with absolutely no difficulty. Lmfao @ Limbo. Tenseigan grants Gudo Dama, so it's possible that he can sense them. Even if he can't, it's irrelevant. Limbo can't do anything significant to him.
Madara is faster than Hamura and multiple clones tricks him up I.T GG you know i knew you was going to say I.T is never happening just like everybody say kirin is never happening when its a game decider in a hebi sasuke vs thread.

Anyways Clones using perfect susanoo along with falling chibaku tensei + limbos and global mokuton Hamura is raped and IT is done in fashion
 

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Lol old ass Hamura in The Last shit on 100% Kurama. Prime Hamura with an added Tenseigan which is a massive power boost puts him far above Madara, given he is on par with Hagromo pre-Juubi jin powers.
 

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Madara is faster than Hamura and multiple clones tricks him up I.T GG you know i knew you was going to say I.T is never happening just like everybody say kirin is never happening when its a game decider in a hebi sasuke vs thread.

Anyways Clones using perfect susanoo along with falling chibaku tensei + limbos and global mokuton Hamura is raped and IT is done in fashion
Since when was Madara faster than Hamura? Hamura has equal chakra to Hagoromo, as they Kaguya split chakra between them. Evenly. So tell me how someone who's physical abilities will be on par with Hagoromo, who would easily be on Naruto's speed tier since he has the chakra he gave to Naruto/Sasuke along with Six Paths Senjutsu, is slower than him when he has Tenseigan Chakra Mode active, which let that fodder Toneri match speeds with The Last Naruto? Lol.

You make no sense.

-PS clones are fanfic.
-CT are worthless.
-Limbo are worthless.
-Global Mokuton is worthless.

Hamura uses Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion and splits Madara in half along with his PS and any and all incoming attacks/clones that get in his way. Not to mention it's much stronger than what Toneri already used to cut the Moon, albeit not being complete.

Please get this nonsense wank out of here. And you get surprised when I say them dudes are better than you. Smh.
 

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Since when was Madara faster than Hamura? Hamura has equal chakra to Hagoromo, as they Kaguya split chakra between them. Evenly. So tell me how someone who's physical abilities will be on par with Hagoromo, who would easily be on Naruto's speed tier since he has the chakra he gave to Naruto/Sasuke along with Six Paths Senjutsu, is slower than him when he has Tenseigan Chakra Mode active, which let that fodder Toneri match speeds with The Last Naruto? Lol.

You make no sense.

-PS clones are fanfic.
-CT are worthless.
-Limbo are worthless.
-Global Mokuton is worthless.

Hamura uses Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion and splits Madara in half along with his PS and any and all incoming attacks/clones that get in his way. Not to mention it's much stronger than what Toneri already used to cut the Moon, albeit not being complete.

Please get this nonsense wank out of here. And you get surprised when I say them dudes are better than you. Smh.
Why must all your post be so long huh a simple disagreeing would good enough ya know? PS clones are fanfic buts its possible Ps output = Kurama's avatar output Naruto with huge chakra boost was able to do Kurama clones why cant Madara use clones with ps? Being equals with someone does not mean you are evenly matched with them in all areas and all Madara got to do is barricade himself with all that i mention which can and will slow Hamura down for Madara to turn his head and look into the sky then its gg That beam is far to linear to hit anyone with any good speed feats let alone Madara he wins this once he gets off I.T but if he cannot he would lose.

Nope you say im worst then them because unlike like them im not scared to challenge you and i want agree with everything you say you know i actually have a sense of self that's why im no ones disciple i lead the pack im top dog round hea.
 

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Why must all your post be so long huh a simple disagreeing would good enough ya know? PS clones are fanfic buts its possible Ps output = Kurama's avatar output Naruto with huge chakra boost was able to do Kurama clones why cant Madara use clones with ps? Being equals with someone does not mean you are evenly matched with them in all areas and all Madara got to do is barricade himself with all that i mention which can and will slow Hamura down for Madara to turn his head and look into the sky then its gg That beam is far to linear to hit anyone with any good speed feats let alone Madara he wins this once he gets off I.T but if he cannot he would lose.

Nope you say im worst then them because unlike like them im not scared to challenge you and i want agree with everything you say you know i actually have a sense of self that's why im no ones disciple i lead the pack im top dog round hea.
Lol. If you don't want an argument, why did you respond with one?

Since when was the output for Madara's Susanoo= to what Naruto puts out with his Avatar? But fine, let's say that he can use PS clones. If he makes too many, then he only weakens his Susanoo like he did against the Gokage. Hamura still rapes them all with his far beyond Moon Cutting Blade anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

No, having the same amount of chakra, the same exact type of chakra, from the same exact source and being their twin is why they have relatively equal stats. Chakra influences stats. That's why Naruto and Sasuke's physical stats increased after gaining stronger (hagoromo's) chakra. That beam being used by a slower person is irrelevant. Not to mention Naruto only dodged it when Toneri came down with it. When he fired it as a laser, Naruto had to overpower it. Hamura would simply get in Madara's face with far superior speed and tear him apart.

Nah, it's because you are. Lol.
 

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Lol. If you don't want an argument, why did you respond with one?

Since when was the output for Madara's Susanoo= to what Naruto puts out with his Avatar? But fine, let's say that he can use PS clones. If he makes too many, then he only weakens his Susanoo like he did against the Gokage. Hamura still rapes them all with his far beyond Moon Cutting Blade anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

No, having the same amount of chakra, the same exact type of chakra, from the same exact source and being their twin is why they have relatively equal stats. Chakra influences stats. That's why Naruto and Sasuke's physical stats increased after gaining stronger (hagoromo's) chakra. That beam being used by a slower person is irrelevant. Not to mention Naruto only dodged it when Toneri came down with it. When he fired it as a laser, Naruto had to overpower it. Hamura would simply get in Madara's face with far superior speed and tear him apart.

Nah, it's because you are. Lol.
Meh im saving my debate energy for an official debate i might be having you can take this one because you know how we get essay vs eesay we can turn a thread popular just by us debating on it DHOH should thank us.

Madara is capable of a distraction regarless of what you say a distraction that can last a sinlge second is enough I.T is happening here Madara takes due to that simple fact.
 

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Meh im saving my debate energy for an official debate i might be having you can take this one because you know how we get essay vs eesay we can turn a thread popular just by us debating on it DHOH should thank us.

Madara is capable of a distraction regarless of what you say a distraction that can last a sinlge second is enough I.T is happening here Madara takes due to that simple fact.
I agree with KidGamer on this. Besides, one thing people dont think about in regards to infinite tsukuyomi is that Kaguya cast the jutsu according to Hagoromo on everyone before they fought and sealed her. The genjutsu has not shown to be selective, so it wouldnt be a far reach to say Hamura also has an immunity to its effects based on his lineage and or doujutsu. Im certain Hamura had a more advanced byakguan then almost everyone else and we know Tenseigan originated with him so its even possible that was the reason behind his immunity. Nothings confirmed, but whats clear is that he was not effected by I.T. when casted by Kaguya herself which to me constitutes a feat if just an off panel feat.
 

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I agree with KidGamer on this. Besides, one thing people dont think about in regards to infinite tsukuyomi is that Kaguya cast the jutsu according to Hagoromo on everyone before they fought and sealed her. The genjutsu has not shown to be selective, so it wouldnt be a far reach to say Hamura also has an immunity to its effects based on his lineage and or doujutsu. Im certain Hamura had a more advanced byakguan then almost everyone else and we know Tenseigan originated with him so its even possible that was the reason behind his immunity. Nothings confirmed, but whats clear is that he was not effected by I.T. when casted by Kaguya herself which to me constitutes a feat if just an off panel feat.
Sigh why do these rookies even try? 1 they're was no moon so it indeed was cast on a much smaller scale
2. Hagoromo could have protected his brother just like Sasuke protected Naruto
3. Do not quote me when you a fool
 
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