Madara will escape Kaguya control by this....

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Not really in this case Madara is a stronger, Kaguya needed BZ to troll Madara. That means she has normal no Chance against him.
Madara is GOD know U_U and Kaguya will be a GOD again because of Madara's power....

Kaguya is still incapacitated, and she obviously orchestrated all that to return/revive properly. So, as of NOW, she is weaker than Madara in the sense of that she just isn't there.

And don't forget Madara used BZ to troll Obito as well...
 

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That is a common theme in many Japanese stories, they like to introduce a final villain at the last second.

Kaguya was the one who originally came up with the Infinite Tsukuyomi and started this whole thing, she stole the fruit which resulted in the birth of the Ten Tails.

Saying that Madara is the final villain instead of Kaguya, is the same as having Obito be above Madara. As BZ noted, Madara was just like Obito in the end.

Also like I have said, it would be pointless to have BZ betray Madara and not have Kaguya as the final villain, even Madara didn't see that coming, and why introduce someone that even the Sage fears if she isn't the final villain.

Madara has accomplished his goal of IT, why introduce a whole new concept like Kaguya instead of have this be the final battle, the only conclusion is that their is more going on then Madara knows.

Kaguya never used Infinite Tsukuyomi like Madara without moon.
Obito has a connection to Madara from beginning. But Kaguja dont have any connevtion to Madara (only since 2 Chapters)
She is not better in any case, you will see everybody thinks she is better , cuz Kishi can not made her worse.
She is a myth and you can not wrack a Charakter when he/she is a myth and legend.
 

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Kaguya never used Infinite Tsukuyomi like Madara without moon.
Obito has a connection to Madara from beginning. But Kaguja dont have any connevtion to Madara (only since 2 Chapters)
She is not better in any case, you will see everybody thinks she is better , cuz Kishi can not made her worse.
She is a myth and you can not wrack a Charakter when he/she is a myth and legend.

She still invented it, when Madara was flying up towards the moon he stated that it was written when one has what is needed, the third eye will reflect off the moon.

Madara was a myth too as well, and now he is being humanized, and brought down to earth.
 

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Madara couldn't move and was screaming in agony, Madara's entire plan was so he could be like Kaguya.

The Sage said that she was more powerful then he was and he was the Ten Tailed Jinchuriki, and by this argument Madara was no match for a powerless Obito as he needed BZ to troll Obito as well.

Sage dont have a third Eye (strongest Doujutsu) + Shinju
 

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Sage dont have a third Eye (strongest Doujutsu) + Shinju



Madara didn't eat the fruit.

Kaguya didn't absorb the Shinju either and she was still more powerful than the Sage, the Sage said that their is no one stronger then her.
 

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She still invented it, when Madara was flying up towards the moon he stated that it was written when one has what is needed, the third eye will reflect off the moon.

Madara was a myth too as well, and now he is being humanized, and brought down to earth.

Hagoromo created the stone tablet.....
Kaguya will only get worse :eww:
 

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Well what you do have does make sense. However, I think the tapping represents him initiating the four limbo's. After he taps the ground, then Sasuke states that they have been surround in four sides.

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Sasuke speaks upon the Limbo clones before Madara taps the ground....

OT: Hmm.....I cannot say. It does seem odd to put emphasis on the tapping of the ground... I too was addled by it. Maybe you are correct.... but I feel Kishi really wants to show Kaguya.... Tbh I feel that Kishi has not been writing the Manga lately.... due to certain symbol changes..... I might make a thread and you will at least see where I'm coming from.

We must wait patiently.... Kishi may have a method to his madness. ^_^
 

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Madara didn't eat the fruit.

Kaguya didn't absorb the Shinju either and she was still more powerful than the Sage, the Sage said that their is no one stronger then her.

At his time yes.
Madara dont Needs the fruit you will get just a 3 eye and maybe chakra nothing more.
But Madara has gets the third eye on a other way.... at Kaguyas time there was not a moon to awake it..just the fruit.
and do you really think Kishi will not Show Kaguya's full power ? There is no fruit, but she will b even stronger as at her Prime..and why ? Cuz of Madara's Body/Power
 

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At his time yes.
Madara dont Needs the fruit you will get just a 3 eye and maybe chakra nothing more.
But Madara has gets the third eye on a other way.... at Kaguyas time there was not a moon to awake it..just the fruit.
and do you really think Kishi will not Show Kaguya's full power ? There is no fruit, but she will b even stronger as at her Prime..and why ? Cuz of Madara's Body/Power

It was noted by the Sage that the whole purpose of the Infinite Tsukyomi Plan that Madara did was so he could get the fruit.

This all brings me back to when Obito was revealed to be Tobi, people started to claim that it was someone else using Obito's body.
 
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tapping the ground could be a signal for the clones though i agree he will struggle a bit during which black zetsu will reveal how he came to work for kaguya

i would be surprised if he died within the next two pages
 

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That could still signify that the limbos moved due to the action in the next panel. It's not unlike Kishi to show us what happened by the action in the next panel. What matters is that Madara is not the final villian. And Madara fans can moan, complain and make anything seem possible by a silly panel of a tap. The end point is Madara looked like he was in abosule agony which we have never seen before.
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Hmm....I didn't know Kishi could exist in more than one space at a time. >_O Since you are writing the Manga.....what will happen next, as I am all too eager to know? ^_^ You speak with such conviction....I wonder....oh how I wonder what you'll say if you turn out to be incorrect.... XD

We shall see.... Oh...I had forgotten you already know the end point of Madaras character..... my apologies Kishi. ^_^ Remember.... looks can be very deceiving.... :yayy:

Anywho... It is what it shall be... Madara, if this is his end so be it...but do not fool yourselves with idea that I'm upset or emotional of it. ^_^ (xcoyote and Deadpool :)) Yes....I find Madara to be the most interesting character....without him around I feel I'll just be bored with the series....though like most others, be all the more anxious to see its ending.

I was getting bored before they introduced Madara.... Even as he is nao thriving in pain he still to me looks too awesome! XD I can't explain it, but I think he still looks of the badass status. ^_^

I like him as a character regardless...... I feel he is what brings "life" to the series....

I'll just wait calmly to see what Kishi does..... I feel those trying to bash Madara are seeking petty reprisals..... :( If not the case....my apologies. I cannot stop them and I wouldn't want to. They should be able to express themselves.....

Imho no other character has been more impactful to this series than Madara.... I'd almost go as far as saying that it is fact. Haha but we shall see.... Madara fans be still of mind. Let them laugh nao.... It may turn around to nibble at their backsides. >_O
 

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You know, i think you're right...i find it oddly disconcerting that Madara has been thwarted by someone dead, legend or not.
 

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I think its pretty obvious madara isnt 100% done for. He tapped the ground as you said and he had 4 limbo clones up before he was impaled by black zetsu.

However i really dont care whether him or kaguya end up being the finale villain. I just wanna see naruto and sasuke fight more.
 

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Hmm....I didn't know Kishi could exist in more than one space at a time. >_O Since you are writing the Manga.....what will happen next, as I am all too eager to know? ^_^ You speak with such conviction....I wonder....oh how I wonder what you'll say if you turn out to be incorrect.... XD

We shall see.... Oh...I had forgotten you already know the end point of Madaras character..... my apologies Kishi. ^_^ Remember.... looks can be very deceiving.... :yayy:

Anywho... It is what it shall be... Madara, if this is his end so be it...but do not fool yourselves with idea that I'm upset or emotional of it. ^_^ (xcoyote and Deadpool :)) Yes....I find Madara to be the most interesting character....without him around I feel I'll just be bored with the series....though like most others, be all the more anxious to see its ending.

I was getting bored before they introduced Madara.... Even as he is nao thriving in pain he still to me looks too awesome! XD I can't explain it, but I think he still looks of the badass status. ^_^

I like him as a character regardless...... I feel he is what brings "life" to the series....

I'll just wait calmly to see what Kishi does..... I feel those trying to bash Madara are seeking petty reprisals..... :( If not the case....my apologies. I cannot stop them and I wouldn't want to. They should be able to express themselves.....

Imho no other character has been more impactful to this series than Madara.... I'd almost go as far as saying that it is fact. Haha but we shall see.... Madara fans be still of mind. Let them laugh nao.... It may turn around to nibble at their backsides. >_O

You seem annoyed. Oh well. @Bold if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. That's all there is to it. But you seem to be swallowing Madara's penis at the moment.
 

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You have a good point but I think Madara is in trouble here.
 
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