Madara was the best villain, just wasn't handled well

[HiddenSound]

nah, you're being "one of those guys", his character was awesome

No, I didn't like his character. His greatest purpose was to show Tobi wasn't Madara, his greatest purpose was only to add to the enigma that was Tobi. He had cool moves but beyond that he was shallow. And even then his power turns into a flaw. So OP he didn't care about ungodly strength like Sage Mode and Juubi Jinchuriki power. That's a Mary Sue type of mistake. When you hype up such incredible power, you don't proceed to shit on it by having a character's response be "oh".
His ideology is stuff we've seen before through Nagato and Tobi, they did it first. Except they weren't hypocrital freaks deluded by their own grandeur who said they wanted peace one page then said they wanted to crush skulls the next.
Everything Madara is, was achieved by someone else. Obito, Akatsuki, Kabuto, Madara's plan would've been destroyed without them doing all the work, then he takes credit. Hell, he can't even control his so called pawns in the first place. Obito was never his ally and even took a massive shit on him when he became the first Juubi Jinchuriki. And yet again, someone else had to pull Madara out of the gutter once that happened.
Then he became the Juubi Jinchuriki himself, and continued what Obito had already started. Kudos to him for achieving IT though, too bad it was never his plan in the first place and he was only a pawn in a bigger game the entire time.

His only redeeming quality is his power, and that has a limit. Beyond that he's your typical and shallow.

 

[Styles]

Nagato/Pain wasn't the best villain he was being used in the shadows and didn't even know. And his plan was Madara's plan. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Deadmed]

No, I didn't like his character. His greatest purpose was to show Tobi wasn't Madara, his greatest purpose was only to add to the enigma that was Tobi. He had cool moves but beyond that he was shallow. And even then his power turns into a flaw. So OP he didn't care about ungodly strength like Sage Mode and Juubi Jinchuriki power. That's a Mary Sue type of mistake. When you hype up such incredible power, you don't proceed to shit on it by having a character's response be "oh".
His ideology is stuff we've seen before through Nagato and Tobi, they did it first. Except they weren't hypocrital freaks deluded by their own grandeur who said they wanted peace one page then said they wanted to crush skulls the next.
Everything Madara is, was achieved by someone else. Obito, Akatsuki, Kabuto, Madara's plan would've been destroyed without them doing all the work, then he takes credit. Hell, he can't even control his so called pawns in the first place. Obito was never his ally and even took a massive shit on him when he became the first Juubi Jinchuriki. And yet again, someone else had to pull Madara out of the gutter once that happened.
Then he became the Juubi Jinchuriki himself, and continued what Obito had already started. Kudos to him for achieving IT though, too bad it was never his plan in the first place and he was only a pawn in a bigger game the entire time.

His only redeeming quality is his power, and that has a limit. Beyond that he's your typical and shallow.

His relationship with Hashirama added a lot to his character depth, I'll go more into it tomorrow I'm too tired.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Madara was nothing special, pretty boring because he had nothing to do with the current time. Nobody had feelings for him. I never understood why he didn't pick Sasuke as the final villain. This would have had much more impact on everything, the drama would have been on for Naruto and the others. Kishi's just a bad writer, he rushed and f'd up the last arc really bad.

Sasuke was the final villain in the manga tho.

OT. Not a fan of his but he was nothing special.

 

[Cooh]

Sasuke was the final villain in the manga tho.

OT. Not a fan of his but he was nothing special.

Not really, he was more of a grey character.

 

[UchihaGodMadara]

No, I didn't like his character. His greatest purpose was to show Tobi wasn't Madara, his greatest purpose was only to add to the enigma that was Tobi. He had cool moves but beyond that he was shallow. And even then his power turns into a flaw. So OP he didn't care about ungodly strength like Sage Mode and Juubi Jinchuriki power. That's a Mary Sue type of mistake. When you hype up such incredible power, you don't proceed to shit on it by having a character's response be "oh".
His ideology is stuff we've seen before through Nagato and Tobi, they did it first. Except they weren't hypocrital freaks deluded by their own grandeur who said they wanted peace one page then said they wanted to crush skulls the next.
Everything Madara is, was achieved by someone else. Obito, Akatsuki, Kabuto, Madara's plan would've been destroyed without them doing all the work, then he takes credit. Hell, he can't even control his so called pawns in the first place. Obito was never his ally and even took a massive shit on him when he became the first Juubi Jinchuriki. And yet again, someone else had to pull Madara out of the gutter once that happened.
Then he became the Juubi Jinchuriki himself, and continued what Obito had already started. Kudos to him for achieving IT though, too bad it was never his plan in the first place and he was only a pawn in a bigger game the entire time.

His only redeeming quality is his power, and that has a limit. Beyond that he's your typical and shallow.

well... it seemed his plan worked quite well to me sir

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[MrLukyso]

No, I didn't like his character. His greatest purpose was to show Tobi wasn't Madara, his greatest purpose was only to add to the enigma that was Tobi. He had cool moves but beyond that he was shallow. And even then his power turns into a flaw. So OP he didn't care about ungodly strength like Sage Mode and Juubi Jinchuriki power. That's a Mary Sue type of mistake. When you hype up such incredible power, you don't proceed to shit on it by having a character's response be "oh".
His ideology is stuff we've seen before through Nagato and Tobi, they did it first. Except they weren't hypocrital freaks deluded by their own grandeur who said they wanted peace one page then said they wanted to crush skulls the next.
Everything Madara is, was achieved by someone else. Obito, Akatsuki, Kabuto, Madara's plan would've been destroyed without them doing all the work, then he takes credit. Hell, he can't even control his so called pawns in the first place. Obito was never his ally and even took a massive shit on him when he became the first Juubi Jinchuriki. And yet again, someone else had to pull Madara out of the gutter once that happened.
Then he became the Juubi Jinchuriki himself, and continued what Obito had already started. Kudos to him for achieving IT though, too bad it was never his plan in the first place and he was only a pawn in a bigger game the entire time.

His only redeeming quality is his power, and that has a limit. Beyond that he's your typical and shallow.

Stop posting nonsense. Everything what happened with Pain, Akatsuki, Obito etc.. was planned by Madara. Yes he was used by Kaguya, but that doesn't change the fact that everything that happened up to that BZ Backstab was because of Madaras strenght and intelligence.

And never forget, the name Madara itself holds power big enough to start the Great Ninja War.

Obito was on Madaras side, Naruto TnJ'ed him out of it like always ( Nagato f/e ).

Madara made Obito what he was to carry the Plan, he awakened his MS ( he set up the RIN Part ), he gave Nagato the Rinnegan neccesary to carry out his Plan, he Taught Obito the Kinjutsu, Rikudou Jutsu, Uchiha Jutsu, he gave him Knowledge about the History of the Shinobi world.

Madara made Obito to who he is today, if it wasn't for him he would be laying down between some rocks to this day, Akatsuki would've never formed and all these Epic stories would've never happaned.


Every epic story we enjoyed happened only because of Madara. U_U

 

[sakurabooty]

Madara was the best villain for sure but it was obvious that Kishi didn’t know how to handle him anymore because he was too strong so he created that Kaguya from nowhere. Madara’s death sure was beautiful tho.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Madara's build up was well.The only bad thing about him was his defeat.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

well... it seemed his plan worked quite well to me sir

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That's funny, i could have sworn he was manipulated from square one, and then betrayed by a certain piece of black slime that.

 

[HiddenSound]

Stop posting nonsense. Everything what happened with Pain, Akatsuki, Obito etc.. was planned by Madara. Yes he was used by Kaguya, but that doesn't change the fact that everything that happened up to that BZ Backstab was because of Madaras strenght and intelligence.

And never forget, the name Madara itself holds power big enough to start the Great Ninja War.

Obito was on Madaras side, Naruto TnJ'ed him out of it like always ( Nagato f/e ).

Madara made Obito what he was to carry the Plan, he awakened his MS ( he set up the RIN Part ), he gave Nagato the Rinnegan neccesary to carry out his Plan, he Taught Obito the Kinjutsu, Rikudou Jutsu, Uchiha Jutsu, he gave him Knowledge about the History of the Shinobi world.

Madara made Obito to who he is today, if it wasn't for him he would be laying down between some rocks to this day, Akatsuki would've never formed and all these Epic stories would've never happaned.


Every epic story we enjoyed happened only because of Madara. U_U

Oh good, I can actually respond to this weak argument.

Black Zetsu manipulated Madara. He manipulated the Uchiha. He created Akatsuki. He created the Curse of Hatred. He shaped the Shinobi world in his image.
You say the only reason Obito happened was because of Madara. Then you should also admit Madara happened because of Black Zetsu. You're going up the strings of who created who, and you stop at Madara when there's one more above him. Everything Madara is, Black Zetsu gave to him.

And even then, it doesn't matter. A character is enjoyed for who they alone are. For the sake of argument, I woildnt like Naruto because of Iruka and Kakashi and Jiraiya. I'd like Naruto because of Naruto. Despite his effect on the overall story, Madara is still a shitty, amateurish character.

well... it seemed his plan worked quite well to me sir

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Lmao please. You Madara wankers are insane. That was never Madara's plan. He was only a pawn. And as soon as his usefulness was over, Black Zetsu revealed himself and the true plan was enacted.

 

[UchihaGodMadara]

Oh good, I can actually respond to this weak argument.

Black Zetsu manipulated Madara. He manipulated the Uchiha. He created Akatsuki. He created the Curse of Hatred. He shaped the Shinobi world in his image.
You say the only reason Obito happened was because of Madara. Then you should also admit Madara happened because of Black Zetsu. You're going up the strings of who created who, and you stop at Madara when there's one more above him. Everything Madara is, Black Zetsu gave to him.

And even then, it doesn't matter. A character is enjoyed for who they alone are. For the sake of argument, I woildnt like Naruto because of Iruka and Kakashi and Jiraiya. I'd like Naruto because of Naruto. Despite his effect on the overall story, Madara is still a shitty, amateurish character.


Lmao please. You Madara wankers are insane. That was never Madara's plan. He was only a pawn. And as soon as his usefulness was over, Black Zetsu revealed himself and the true plan was enacted.

um no you got it all wrong IT was Madaras Dream (world Peace) Zetsu and Kaguyas dream was using IT and turning everyone into WZ theres a big difference. he stated that was his goal and he COMPLETED IT he was the only antagonist who complete his goal even if it was just for 5 minute. #getitsraight

 

[UchihaGodMadara]

and Madara may have been usd but its not like Kaguya or BZ completed their goal, Only Madara did.

 

[UchihaGodMadara]

and by the way you say it wasn't Madaras plan, why didn't he just die in the cave. BZ was the one who messed up in the end and Madara ended up successful.

 

[HiddenSound]

um no you got it all wrong IT was Madaras Dream (world Peace) Zetsu and Kaguyas dream was using IT and turning everyone into WZ theres a big difference. he stated that was his goal and he COMPLETED IT he was the only antagonist who complete his goal even if it was just for 5 minute. #getitsraight

and Madara may have been usd but its not like Kaguya or BZ completed their goal, Only Madara did.

and by the way you say it wasn't Madaras plan, why didn't he just die in the cave. BZ was the one who messed up in the end and Madara ended up successful.

... What? Madara was only a pawn who achieved Black Zetu's plan. There never was any peace in IT, only Kaguya's domination. Madara may have thought he succeeded but that's totally irrelevant. That is not what happened.
You seem to think IT was his end goal. It was not. IT was the means, peace was the goal. That goal failed when he first believed in Infinite Tsukuyomi.
Again, what? Why didn't he just die in the cave?... Because Black Zetsu had tricked him by that time and he thought IT would lead to peace... Madara ended up successful?

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That's your idea of success? Your life mission being flipped on its head, discovering your dream was a lie and that it'd achieve the opposite of what you wanted,, that you were only being used, and then dying. Very successful 11/10

 

[Superior Jinchuriki]

Honestly his background hasn't interested me much, I prefer Obito's anyday. But he was badass, he should've been handled better than BZ crap. I would've preferred Naruto/Sasuke to weaken him before Kaguya take over, not him losing control while he was at his strongest.

Agreed. Very much.

 

[UnknownJin]

Tbh, Madara couldnt even be defeated ... he was the strongest, that bz shit was bullshit

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Nah. The main villain should have been Kabuto since he wanted to attain a purpose.

 

[Superior Jinchuriki]

Oh good, I can actually respond to this weak argument.

Black Zetsu manipulated Madara. He manipulated the Uchiha. He created Akatsuki. He created the Curse of Hatred. He shaped the Shinobi world in his image.
You say the only reason Obito happened was because of Madara. Then you should also admit Madara happened because of Black Zetsu. You're going up the strings of who created who, and you stop at Madara when there's one more above him. Everything Madara is, Black Zetsu gave to him.

And even then, it doesn't matter. A character is enjoyed for who they alone are. For the sake of argument, I woildnt like Naruto because of Iruka and Kakashi and Jiraiya. I'd like Naruto because of Naruto. Despite his effect on the overall story, Madara is still a shitty, amateurish character.


Lmao please. You Madara wankers are insane. That was never Madara's plan. He was only a pawn. And as soon as his usefulness was over, Black Zetsu revealed himself and the true plan was enacted.

That actually makes sense. Madara was a pawn. DANG!!!

 

[HiddenSound]

Tbh, Madara couldnt even be defeated ... he was the strongest, that bz shit was bullshit

Except he was defeated. And the way it was going, Naruto and Sasuke would've done it not much later anyway. And Kaguya was the strongest. Did you read the last chapters?