Madara was stronger than Hashirama all along.

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Who would have known that Madara had a card like Izanagi up his sleeve?

Had he used it at VOTE, he would have soloed Hashirama.

After Hashirama stabbed Madara, Hashirama collapsed due to fatigue.

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That would have been the perfect chance to use Izanagi and sneak attack Hashirama.


But I guess he needed the world to think he's dead so he didn't take this route. Afterall, the mere mention of his name was able to get the whole world to gang up on Tobi. Madara didn't need that kind of attention, so he faked his own death.
 

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Madara couldn't use it during the fight. He needed Hashirama's DNA to perform it.
 

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So he needs to sacrifice parts of his body , steal Hashi's DNA and manipulate Kyuubi in order to have a chance for a shot at Hashirama ?
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I agree with you. Look at this too.

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No he lost for sure he only prevented his death

Madara 1 eye rinnegan sage mode>>>>>>≥>>>>>>>>>>>hashirama
 

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How does that make him stronger... He now lost one eye... You could argue after rebirth he got a rinnegan but no guarantee he could use it
 

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He doesn't need the DNA to use Izanagi, only to lengthen the duration of protection.

In the anime, there were those that used it for split seconds due to not having Senju DNA.
 

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I thought this information was already known to the general public. :|
 

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That fight was like Madara + Full Kyuubi vs Hashirama.

Without the Kyuubi, Madara would get fodderized in 30 seconds.
 

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He doesn't need the DNA to use Izanagi, only to lengthen the duration of protection.

In the anime, there were those that used it for split seconds due to not having Senju DNA.

Not really, so anime fillers count as Kishi's canon work now ? That wasn't even mentioned even if it is so.
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If he really were stronger, he could have just killed hashirama and then take his WHOLE body with him instead of a tiny piece and pretending to lose. That would make no sense..Sorry pal, Hashirama was stronger, Madara even admitted it as kids, and it was proven in their two main battles, the one where Madara joined him, and the battle where he lost for good.
 

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If he really were stronger, he could have just killed hashirama and then take his WHOLE body with him instead of a tiny piece and pretending to lose. That would make no sense..Sorry pal, Hashirama was stronger, Madara even admitted it as kids, and it was proven in their two main battles, the one where Madara joined him, and the battle where he lost for good.

He pretended to lose because he didn't want the whole weight of Konoha and it's allies crashing down on him.

Just the mere mention of Madara's name was able to get the world to gang up on Tobi.

Like I said, Madara didn't need that kind of attention. He prefers to work from the shadows and be cautious.
 

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Not really, so anime fillers count as Kishi's canon work now ? That wasn't even mentioned even if it is so.
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The scenario played there was for a non-Uchiha member like Danzo using it.

Using Senju DNA helps prolonge the duration of the technique, especially for those not in the Uchiha bloodline.
 

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He pretended to lose because he didn't want the whole weight of Konoha and it's allies crashing down on him.

Just the mere mention of Madara's name was able to get the world to gang up on Tobi.

Like I said, Madara didn't need that kind of attention. He prefers to work from the shadows and be cautious.

He would have solo'd konoha with hashirama dead, he could go back in PS and annihlate everyone, who at the time could stop Madara? Not Tobirama.
 

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Madara was always weaker than Hashirama.

Deal with it.
 

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And again, this was Obito, speaking on Madara's behalf. We cannot take his words for granted.
 

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He was weaker

Otherwise why risk the sacrifice of the precious power his brother left to him?

Why bring Kurama to the fight to attempt to gain an advantage?

He would have just come on his own fake a loss and stab hashi when he ''resurrects''



Guarantee he would have preferred to win and have a full hashirama body to use, but he was very smart to plan incase he lost
 
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