Madara would win he has the ems+rinnegan and even though he does not have mokuton he still has senju dna and is closer to the sage himself than nagato ever was. He just has a clear advantage
when he was young he didnt even know how to use the rinnegan to its best and then he became unhealthy after overuse of the rinnegan itself.looool name one technique Madara has shown that Nagato cant counter with a stronger move?Oh right you cant xd
Ok so Nagato was never healthy vs Hanzo?Nagatos bad health was not what he was born with he was born fully healthy and was crippled purely because of the plot and Madara if he wasnt a edo completed by kabuto would be weaker then he is now probably much weaker
No OP took it out, but he does have senju dna since he himself stole it from hashiramaI thought Madara did have Mokuton in this match?
Im not really assuming anything Kabuto said he was completed beyong his prime and his edo tensei was a special version thats basically proof imoObviously he wasnt born with bad health :flaw:
So your assuming that Madara is much weaker than before he was an edo but your also assuming that Nagato was healthy vs Hanzo? What we SAW was Nagato practically crippled against Naruto, how do you know he wasn't crippled against Hanzo?
Lol I didn't take you seriously though well if its madara with rinnegan definitely madara would beat nagato but madara with just EMS I think nagato take this, first all of his big katon jutsu's won't work on nagato you know nagato can absorb that, nagato also have a lot of experience with rinnegan like 30 years or more, he have boss summons, a lot of chakra and more so yeah madara rinnegan>nagato but nagato>madara EMS.Well I said that for fun dude.. Do not take it so seriously lol.. Because I hate when people tells stupid things like that..
And Madara can use Izanagi, Rinnegan, Eternal Mangekyo, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Susanoo, Insane Katon, Good speed, good brutal strenght, very big experience - Strongest uchiha, how nagato does stand a chance ?
Your just agreeing with what i said and trying to say things i didnt even mention if you look at my post looolwhen he was young he didnt even know how to use the rinnegan to its best and then he became unhealthy after overuse of the rinnegan itself.
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he wasnt nearly as strong with his rinnegan back at this point
his prime was when he was older but more frail, he was never in a healthy phase with full mastery. Overusing rinnegan is what led him to the that state.
Don't blame the plot on everything that is wrong with a character, itachi got a random sickness out of nowhere and minato had to die what can u do about it, its the damn story and u nor anyone here can change that
Ur claiming of a healthy nagato being all powerful but there was never a situation like that. there is only unhealthy nagato who knew how to use rinnegan well. Or the inexperienced healthy nagatoYour just agreeing with what i said and trying to say things i didnt even mention if you look at my post loool
Ok so the plot didnt cripple Nagato hmm.. interesting
Nagato uncrippled vs Konoha who would win? The same circumstances and everything this Nagato can fly and sprint.
Never said there was your doing what you usually do being ignorant and incorrectly quote me look at my post carefully pleaseUr claiming of a healthy nagato being all powerful but there was never a situation like that. there is only unhealthy nagato who knew how to use rinnegan well. Or the inexperienced healthy nagato
There is no healthy all powerful nagato that u are talking about, the best it gets is when he was edo where he absorbed bee's chakra but he still has mobility issues
why are u talking about konoha lol wtf does that have to do with this fight.
BOLD 1:Then why did u give a scenario of uncrippled nagato vs konohaNever said there was your doing what you usually do being ignorant and incorrectly quote me look at my post carefully please
Oh yeah i need to explain things to you Itachi fanboys sorry
Nagato beat konoha with dead bodies,killed/wounded most of the shinobi,captured the Kyubbi etc. failed because of Naruto having help,information blabla everyone knows the story if this was Nagato uncrippled he would of suceeded even with all these things against him.If he would of captured the kyubii then the 8 tails would of been next he would of got that weapon.Its all plot.
I know he said it was a special version but he never said how he improved it.Im not really assuming anything Kabuto said he was completed beyong his prime and his edo tensei was a special version thats basically proof imo
Nagato was healthy vs Hanzo fact till he used Gedo and that stupid haxxed technique
That's what I am saying. From what we have SEEN, there is no such thing as a healthy nagato that has mastered or been good with the rinnengan.BOLD 1:Then why did u give a scenario of uncrippled nagato vs konoha
you seem to not make sense a lot do u its very funny
This is madara vs nagato not konoha so that is irrelevant and two he never captured the kyubi it broke out of CT, get your facts straight. Dont blame the plot nagato got crippled due to the techs he used with the rinnegan.
Don't just go on "Ifs", there is no nagato healthy and plot is there for a reason you cant just throw it aside lol, itachi had to get a disease, minato didnt have to die that day when kyubi attacked but plot happens and you can't change it
What about EMS, and the knowledge about the Rinnengan? :shrug:Nagato takes this. He is a lot more powerful with Rinnengan when i compare them