[VS] Madara vs kaguya

[Haizaki]

1 eyed Madara > Kaguya? Dear Lord.

Kaguya beats him

 

[the unforgiven]

Kaguya wins. She's on a different level than Madara.


Power means everything in fights of this scale. Unless you have the Sun and Moon seals that are meant to seal her power.

if power means everything how come naruto shat on her negg diff? lol

like i said strength alone isnt enough to win d battle if you are retarded as fck

 

[Scryed]

if power means everything how come naruto shat on her negg diff? lol

like i said strength alone isnt enough to win d battle if you are retarded as fck

Because of the seals.

One touch from both seals and her power is sealed.

They are more skilled than her but do you believe they could've won without the seals?

 

[heyguys]

Kaguya is superior which is obviously obvious. I believe Madara won't do bad but he cannot win.

 

[the unforgiven]

Because of the seals.

One touch from both seals and her power is sealed.

They are more skilled than her but do you believe they could've won without the seals?

same can b said for madara, he is also unkillable his regenration skills are unbelievle unlike kaguya madara never panics in battle

 

[the unforgiven]

Kaguya is superior which is obviously obvious. I believe Madara won't do bad but he cannot win.

superior in what exactly she just have bit more chakra other than this madara is superior to her in every category

also give me valid reason fears to prove her superiority over madara

 

[Scryed]

same can b said for madara, he is also unkillable his regenration skills are unbelievle unlike kaguya madara never panics in battle

Naruto and Sasuke were countering everything Madara was throwing at them. They even destroyed his CTs with little effort.

He was blitzed twice by Sasuke's S/T. The same S/T that Kaguya reacted to. Kaguya is faster than Madara.

Madara was capable of regenerating that way since he was Juubi Jin. Kaguya is the Juubi itself so there's no reason for me to believe she can't regenerate since she was technically the one who allowed him to regenerate in the first place.

Itachi could very well be smarter than Hashirama. He might very well be more skillful than Hashirama. Do you thinkItachi can beat Hashirama? I sure don't since there's a clear difference in their power.

Hashirama could use Mokuton of that level due to the sheer amount of chakra he has. Amount of chakra does matter. It wouldn't matter if there wasn't a big difference but according to Sasuke, there is.

Not only that but according to BZ, Kaguya's speed, strength, etc. increase even more as she acquires more chakra. That raises the question whether that also applies to those who were her hosts since they use her power. This could also be why she was able to react to Sasuke's S/T when Madara couldn't.

It took both Hagoromo and Hamura to defeat Kaguya in the past even with the seals. This time, 2 halves of Hagoromo's power and company managed to defeat her.

Doesn't that make you wonder if she had less chakra than she did in the past? Since when it comes to Kaguya, more chakra increases her stats. Up to the point where Hagoromo needed his brother's help to defeat her and this time, two halves of his power defeated her.



I might be a fan of Madara but I'm perfectly fine with him being second only to Kaguya (and possibly Hagoromo).

 

[Apêx1]

Kaguya spanks him.

 

[the unforgiven]

Naruto and Sasuke were countering everything Madara was throwing at them. They even destroyed his CTs with little effort.

He was blitzed twice by Sasuke's S/T. The same S/T that Kaguya reacted to. Kaguya is faster than Madara.

Madara was capable of regenerating that way since he was Juubi Jin. Kaguya is the Juubi itself so there's no reason for me to believe she can't regenerate since she was technically the one who allowed him to regenerate in the first place.

Itachi could very well be smarter than Hashirama. He might very well be more skillful than Hashirama. Do you thinkItachi can beat Hashirama? I sure don't since there's a clear difference in their power.

Hashirama could use Mokuton of that level due to the sheer amount of chakra he has. Amount of chakra does matter. It wouldn't matter if there wasn't a big difference but according to Sasuke, there is.

Not only that but according to BZ, Kaguya's speed, strength, etc. increase even more as she acquires more chakra. That raises the question whether that also applies to those who were her hosts since they use her power. This could also be why she was able to react to Sasuke's S/T when Madara couldn't.

It took both Hagoromo and Hamura to defeat Kaguya in the past even with the seals. This time, 2 halves of Hagoromo's power and company managed to defeat her.

Doesn't that make you wonder if she had less chakra than she did in the past? Since when it comes to Kaguya, more chakra increases her stats. Up to the point where Hagoromo needed his brother's help to defeat her and this time, two halves of his power defeated her.



I might be a fan of Madara but I'm perfectly fine with him being second only to Kaguya (and possibly Hagoromo).

dont compare hashirama to itachi thats not even competition itachi have less chakra then part 1 naruto lol. hashi aint that dumb he is just naive and good in battle dude....

im talking bout full power madara double rinnegan with 3rd eye. those CT's madara called em rain drops he never got chance to show his power. and you are talking bout 1 rinnegan madara also madara analysed sasuke's s/t instantly.

umm kaguya fastest person ? lol naruto blitzed her ripped her arm off lol dude even sakura punched her.

more over sasuke s/t worked just once on madara and kaguya techs can b countered by madara. madara healing is also surpass kaguya becoz along with jj he also had sage mode of hashi which was known for healing factors.

hagoromo needed his brother to seal juubi mean while madara was controlling her at will lol if i remember correctly even hashi restrained her with gate seals b4 obito becoxe jj.

dont forget madara's battle experience. there is huge diffrence between skills of a pro and noob

there are lot of factors that play important role in d outcome of a battle most of which are in madara's favor.

that seal we are talking bout is full powered CB which madara have. also hagoromo lacked battle experience when he fought kaguya and as you said kaguya was juubi means hago sealed her b4 becoming a jinchuuriki which further prove she sucks

 

[Seventh Sama]

Its pretty obvious kaguya is stronger.
You don't need skills or experience when youre that damn op.

 

[Scryed]

dont compare hashirama to itachi thats not even competition itachi have less chakra then part 1 naruto lol. hashi aint that dumb he is just naive and good in battle dude....

im talking bout full power madara double rinnegan with 3rd eye. those CT's madara called em rain drops he never got chance to show his power. and you are talking bout 1 rinnegan madara also madara analysed sasuke's s/t instantly.

umm kaguya fastest person ? lol naruto blitzed her ripped her arm off lol dude even sakura punched her.

more over sasuke s/t worked just once on madara and kaguya techs can b countered by madara. madara healing is also surpass kaguya becoz along with jj he also had sage mode of hashi which was known for healing factors.

hagoromo needed his brother to seal juubi mean while madara was controlling her at will lol if i remember correctly even hashi restrained her with gate seals b4 obito becoxe jj.

dont forget madara's battle experience. there is huge diffrence between skills of a pro and noob

there are lot of factors that play important role in d outcome of a battle most of which are in madara's favor.

that seal we are talking bout is full powered CB which madara have. also hagoromo lacked battle experience when he fought kaguya and as you said kaguya was juubi means hago sealed her b4 becoming a jinchuuriki which further prove she sucks

Hashirama isn't dumb and I never said he was. I used that comparison to show that power and amount of chakra makes a considerable difference.

Kaguya is faster than Madara. I didn't even mention Naruto's speed. As for Sakura, Kaguya literally flew into her punch. She was focused on Naruto and Sasuke who were about to seal her which is why she flew up.

Sasuke used his S/T on Madara twice. One time resulted in Sasuke's sword piercing Madara's chest. The other time resulting in Madara being cut in half. Both those times, Madara couldn't react. Madara cannot counter Kaguya's S/T. No reason to believe he can use her S/T when only her IT was mentioned in the tablet. If he actually can he still wouldn't have the chakra to use it often anyways.


Having experience on some things won't automatically make you an expert with a power you have just gotten. Besides, Kaguya wasn't a noob to the point where she was teleporting to random locations. Especially when all she needs is a portal and an ash bone.

Raindrops or not, it doesn't change the fact that Naruto and Sasuke were countering everything he was throwing at them. That healing effect and "immortality" are things he got from being Juubi Jin. Otherwise, he wouldn't need to attach a Zetsu arm when his arm was severed before he became Juubi Jin.

I, or should I say we, don't know the details that involved her transformation to the Juubi. By the looks of it, her body was on a mindless rampage. BZ was needed to restore her to her previous self. Which came with a power too great for Madara to handle. He ended up bloating up and then became Kaguya's vessel.

The seal we are talking about isn't some simple CT. The Sun and Moon seals in particular seal her power away (Her eye turned Black and white). Her power itself was sealed which would be why she can't do anything about the CT she was trapped in. She needed to be restored.

Battles of this magnitude don't involve experience with a PS or techniques of that level since that's the experience that Madara had acquired during his lifetime. He only reached Hagoromo's level for less than a day. He only had 1 day of experience as a Juubi Jin.

 

[Benjamin King]

Naruto and Sasuke were countering everything Madara was throwing at them. They even destroyed his CTs with little effort.

And they did same thing to Kaguya's techniques, your point being?

He was blitzed twice by Sasuke's S/T. The same S/T that Kaguya reacted to. Kaguya is faster than Madara.

Which he let him do that, so that he can get his other Rinnegan.

Madara was capable of regenerating that way since he was Juubi Jin. Kaguya is the Juubi itself so there's no reason for me to believe she can't regenerate since she was technically the one who allowed him to regenerate in the first place.

Hashirama's SM allowed him to heal before absorbing Juubi.

Itachi could very well be smarter than Hashirama. He might very well be more skillful than Hashirama. Do you thinkItachi can beat Hashirama? I sure don't since there's a clear difference in their power.

Nope. But, there is not clear difference in power between Kaguya and Madara, except the Chakra reserves they hold; and that Madara is much more skilled than her. Did Naruto by himself needed to be close to Kaguya in power? No. However, that didn't stop him from curb-stomping Kaguya the whole fight. And Naruto only has 50% of Madara's power.

Hashirama could use Mokuton of that level due to the sheer amount of chakra he has. Amount of chakra does matter. It wouldn't matter if there wasn't a big difference but according to Sasuke, there is.

No. That means Kaguya can last longer in battle than Madara can. Kaguya's best feat of Chakra is creating that Gududama at that size. And that size was comparable to Madara's CT, which only took fraction of his Chakra to do that. Once again, your point?

Not only that but according to BZ, Kaguya's speed, strength, etc. increase even more as she acquires more chakra. That raises the question whether that also applies to those who were her hosts since they use her power. This could also be why she was able to react to Sasuke's S/T when Madara couldn't.

And that boost meant nothing, as Kakashi blitzed her and nearly severed her arm and Sakura catching her off-guard and breaking her horn. Wrong, Madara reacted to Sasuke's S/T; it's that he didn't intercept him.

It took both Hagoromo and Hamura to defeat Kaguya in the past even with the seals. This time, 2 halves of Hagoromo's power and company managed to defeat her.

And Madara has the 2 halves of Hagoromo's power alongside the Juubi's power. Your point being?

Doesn't that make you wonder if she had less chakra than she did in the past? Since when it comes to Kaguya, more chakra increases her stats. Up to the point where Hagoromo needed his brother's help to defeat her and this time, two halves of his power defeated her.

Chakra didn't exist during Kaguya's era. She is weaker compared to the current era during her fight against Naruto & Sasuke, considering she absorbed Chakra from people captured by IT. That Chakra didn't exist during her fight against Hagoromo & Hamura.

I might be a fan of Madara but I'm perfectly fine with him being second only to Kaguya (and possibly Hagoromo).

Being a fan isn't going to make correct.

 

[Haizaki]

superior in what exactly she just have bit more chakra other than this madara is superior to her in every category

also give me valid reason fears to prove her superiority over madara

I don't know what Manga you're reading.

 

[Inert Brian]

Kaguya is immortal....Madara isn't.

 

[AizenSosuke]

Kaguya wins this.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Madara turns to dust

 

[the unforgiven]

I don't know what Manga you're reading.

quoting just half line hmm you didnt read i said. as far as manga its called naruto and everyone know kaguya was retarded lol worst part she couldnt speak for herself and bz was barking orders at her.

 

[the unforgiven]

Kaguya wins this.

how? lol she dont have much feats lol just 2 techs...

 

[MickNerks]

Double Rinnegan Madara > 1-eyed Rinnegan Madara >= Naruto = Sasuke > Kaguya. Do the math.​

You think Double Rinnegan Madara > Naruto... Stop Trolling!!!

 

[the unforgiven]

You think Double Rinnegan Madara > Naruto... Stop Trolling!!!

lol dude irony is strong here. he is not d one trolling but you are double rinnegan madara >naruto.