Madara vs Kaguya

[24farone]

Let's be honest and break it down this isn't even about whose the better villain(clearly madara)
But who could actually win through sheer power strategy speed and experience

Madara is a little if not a lot weaker then Hagoromo. But he has the rinnegan and the the infinite rinnegan not to mention his sharingan. Madara has the ability of limbo the six path technique not to mention he was able to use the infinite tsukoyomi who knows he could even use the transportation Jutsu kaguya herself uses
Let's face it kaguya has own large chakra she has absolutely no battle experience
Any other thoughts?

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

not sure if madara knows the inter-dimensional shifting tech .
if not , he dies in a desert
not to mention that he probably doesn't have the seals , the necessary means to actually defeat her.

 

[TsukiNoMe]

Madara will detonate Kaguya Low - Mid difficulty. And then he gudoudama the shit out of Black Zetsu.

 

[Tsunade123]

Kaguya will win low diff all she has to do is send him to another decision or do the gravity thing and send a bone and bye bye madara would become fodder

 

[Zakler2k9]

Madara of course

 

[Demonic.]

Madara neg difficulty.

Kaguya is fodder. The hyuga fan base should be banned from NarutoBase

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Madara couldn't blitz Kakashi and Obito. Was wrecked by one RS. And was impaled by a guy with little chakra. Kaguya stomps.

 

[Orochimagus]

Um...What the hell are you talking battle experience? Did you not see how she so creatively used her broken off arm to fight?

Anyways, bias aside, Madara got sliced in half by Sasuke when Sasuke has not been able to land a single hit on Kaguya. Not to mention Madara was a punching bag for several chapters. Kaguya bomb is more massive than any technique Madara mustered and she has rather easily taken down two Perfect Susanoo. We also have to take into account that she knows Wood Release and every other bloodline...Something Madara did not have.

Oh, Kaguya managed to pull out Infinite Tsukiyomi as well and turned a hundred thousand people or more into White Zetsu so she obviously has battle experience. Remember the war she put an end to?

And technically she already beat Madara. Sneaking up behind him is not wrong since Madara PRIDES himself on always watching his back. She was just a better Ninja than him. Besides, if Madara was strong at all he would have put some sort of resistance when Black Zetsu had stabbed him as he did with Obito. Kaguya took over his body like it was a walk at the park.

 

[24farone]

Um...What the hell are you talking battle experience? Did you not see how she so creatively used her broken off arm to fight?

Anyways, bias aside, Madara got sliced in half by Sasuke when Sasuke has not been able to land a single hit on Kaguya. Not to mention Madara was a punching bag for several chapters. Kaguya bomb is more massive than any technique Madara mustered and she has rather easily taken down two Perfect Susanoo. We also have to take into account that she knows Wood Release and every other bloodline...Something Madara did not have.

Oh, Kaguya managed to pull out Infinite Tsukiyomi as well and turned a hundred thousand people or more into White Zetsu so she obviously has battle experience. Remember the war she put an end to?

And technically she already beat Madara. Sneaking up behind him is not wrong since Madara PRIDES himself on always watching his back. She was just a better Ninja than him. Besides, if Madara was strong at all he would have put some sort of resistance when Black Zetsu had stabbed him as he did with Obito. Kaguya took over his body like it was a walk at the park.

You're forgetting one thing madara is the one who activated the infinite tsukoyomi your also forgetting she there's absolutely no shinobi even on par with hagoromo hamura sasuke hashirama naruto all these other extremely powerful ninja she used sheer power to put fear in them clearly she just completely overpowered them without effort and being biased I'm not being biased at all I was a kaguya fan before she was even mentioned officially in manga and I like madara more as a villain I'm asking for other opinions so keep that biased crap out lol also she didn't best madara she's using him as a vessel madara is a sensory type as well did ever think he actually sensed black zetsu and didn't think he would deceive him he was deceived this would be a completely different fight if madara was in it and once again madara awakened the third rinnegan we don't know if can use the space time ninjutsu

 

[Orochimagus]

You are forgetting to read the manga:

Kaguya activated the Infinite Tsukiyomi during her time long ago which is where the White Zetsu army comes from.

The current Tsukiyomi is merely an idea Kaguya planted into Madara and she manipulated him into doing it, then got one paneled as soon as he fulfilled his use.

I do not even get what you meant with the "on par" comment.

I doubt you could have been a Kaguya "fan" before she was mentioned.

When you are using someone as a vessel you bested them. Orochimaru failed to take over Sasuke because Sasuke managed to best Orochimaru. Madara could not handle Kaguya's chakra and bloated out into a ball.

How would the fight have been any different when it has been stated by multiple characters that Kaguya is on a while new level above Madara? Are you going to deny manga facts with bias?

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[Ultimateone]

kaguya wins.she can actually kill madara with her bone ash technique. he isn't healing from that. he doesn't posses te means to actually seal her. she could trap him in another dimension. she has excess to every kkg. madara would get smashed. people forget that she could have actually killed naruto and sasuke a few times. they are blinded by their hate for her to see that madara was getting rapped and kaguya was winning before naruto started coming into his own.

 

[xxxLegacy]

Madara survived 8 Gates Gai and could heal his half body.....

He is Juubi Jinchūriki this bones ash Jutsu will not even harm him U_U
It's unbelievable, so many People are reading this Manga so long + the are in a naruto forum and still don't have some knowledge about it......sadly

Madara has Rinnegan = No chance to hit him ( Chinra Tensei etc.)
Madara has Limbo = No chance to hit him with some bones lolz
Madara showed the best regeneration skills in this ****ing manga.
Madara has Gudōdama against this bones

And
And
And


She will not hit him with this crap Jutsu. .

And to the idiots who are saying " she can shifting him to a other demision" that would not be a win not eben a draw, that would be nothing
Madara would not die......so she has to kill him on the other way...

1. He has Mokuton = He don't need food or something ( Zetsu's and Obito as example)
2. He is Juubi Jinchūriki

And the best part he has the same eye so him should he able to use the same Jutsu and jump back....

He already used one Jutsu that Kaguya also used with the same eye, so this s/t Jutsu is not her unique Skill

 

[Orochimagus]

Legacy, Madara is a washed down version of Kaguya. As stated in the latest chapter she has access to every bloodline tech including the same regenerative abilities. Now the bone technique she has displayed seem to rot your cells at a fast as hell pace which the healing can't keep up with. Not to mention Kaguya did what Madara could not do; kill Obito. Kaguya also used the wood element in the last chapter so mentionin Madara has Hashirama's Mokuton is useless. Kaguya's chakra s above the tentails so mentioning he is a beast host is dumb. Just face it, Kaguya has made short work of Kakashi's Susanoo, Sasuke's Susanoo, Madara himself as a character...And the guy could not even recover from one surprise attack? The difference in power is too extreme.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Madara survived 8 Gates Gai and could heal his half body.....

He is Juubi Jinchūriki this bones ash Jutsu will not even harm him U_U
It's unbelievable, so many People are reading this Manga so long + the are in a naruto forum and still don't have some knowledge about it......sadly

Madara has Rinnegan = No chance to hit him ( Chinra Tensei etc.)
Madara has Limbo = No chance to hit him with some bones lolz
Madara showed the best regeneration skills in this ****ing manga.
Madara has Gudōdama against this bones

And
And
And


She will not hit him with this crap Jutsu. .

And to the idiots who are saying " she can shifting him to a other demision" that would not be a win not eben a draw, that would be nothing
Madara would not die......so she has to kill him on the other way...

1. He has Mokuton = He don't need food or something ( Zetsu's and Obito as example)
2. He is Juubi Jinchūriki

And the best part he has the same eye so him should he able to use the same Jutsu and jump back....

He already used one Jutsu that Kaguya also used with the same eye, so this s/t Jutsu is not her unique Skill

Naruto is a Juubi Jin and the bones can harm him.

 

[Torche]

Rikudou no Jutsu tank this.

 

[Zol]

Obviously Kaguya wins. She is in a completely different league than Madara, as stated in the manga. People are just getting the wrong impression since Team 7 gets amazing powerups/shows amazing new techs nearly every chapter now.

 

[Zol]

Madara survived 8 Gates Gai and could heal his half body.....

He is Juubi Jinchūriki this bones ash Jutsu will not even harm him U_U
It's unbelievable, so many People are reading this Manga so long + the are in a naruto forum and still don't have some knowledge about it......sadly

Madara has Rinnegan = No chance to hit him ( Chinra Tensei etc.)
Madara has Limbo = No chance to hit him with some bones lolz
Madara showed the best regeneration skills in this ****ing manga.
Madara has Gudōdama against this bones

And
And
And


She will not hit him with this crap Jutsu. .

And to the idiots who are saying " she can shifting him to a other demision" that would not be a win not eben a draw, that would be nothing
Madara would not die......so she has to kill him on the other way...

1. He has Mokuton = He don't need food or something ( Zetsu's and Obito as example)
2. He is Juubi Jinchūriki

And the best part he has the same eye so him should he able to use the same Jutsu and jump back....

He already used one Jutsu that Kaguya also used with the same eye, so this s/t Jutsu is not her unique Skill

Kaguya has every single thing you mentioned Madara has and more...

 

[24farone]

Kaguya has every single thing you mentioned Madara has and more...

It's not stated that kaguya has limbo and all that shit if she said I'm positive that she would use it limbo is rinnegan power her rinnegan has different abilities kaguya doesn't have the powers of the rinnegan that's probably one of the reasons they were even able to win I'm not sure if the rinnegan powers differ but I could see the sage having limbo and shit

 

[ad0]

if kaguya is that stronger she should annihilate naruto and sasuke easily

How it stands:

Rikudo 3eye Madara>Hagoromo>Rikudo 2eye Madara>Kaguya>Rikudo 1eye Madara>Naruto & Sasuke>Edo Fused Madara>Sage Harshirama & EMS Madara>Edo Harshirama>Minato>100% Kurama>Naruto Bijjumod>8 Gate Gai>Kakashi>EMS Sasuke>Nagato>Itachi>Orichumarku

 

[Faiznarmi]

Madara killed Obito. Remember the part that he stoled Kakashi's eye and go to the Kamui dimension ? It was Naruto who revives him back so can't blame Maddy for that. As for the sealing, bruh his power is similar to Kaguya, heck Hagoromo + Hamura is a diluted version of him (as for power) and Hagoromo gives Nardo and Sauce the power to seal Kaguya. What makes you think that him, basically Hagoromo + Hamura's power, did not have the same power himself ? He can seal Kaguya, based on the Hagoromo + Hamura's (power) logic. So yeah, he wins this mid diff or he lose this battle high diff (because you know, nothing beats the original) plus Kaguya's chakra is basically the nature's (Sage chakra ?) itself.