Madara vs Jiraya!!! Who would have won?

[peaceful]

Dude, JIraya wouldnt have won Pein even if he knew the secrets of his. Naruto who pretty much did, still failed to defeat a 30% Pein. (He was coughing up blood when he started fighting Naruto). Moreover, Naruto was exhausted and couldnt stand after the pein fight and Pein killed himself. He could have taken over Naruto with whatever jutsu he had there, but used that Rinne Tensei.


And do you really think Jiraya could have won Madara even if he knew his secret techniques?
Eveyone knew that MInato had space/time technique called FTG but noone could defeat him :|
Madara's technique is even greater.
There are techniques and abilities that are just.. impossible for someone to defeat even if you know how they work.

Jiraya is strong and so on, but he lost to Pein and Pein didnt even use his God Realm. ANd this was a fair fight, because Pein didn't know about Jiraya's abilities too.



Now think about it, Madara was controlling Pein who wasnt the one who would like to obey someone and Jiraya lost to Pein without him even using a God Realm. This only shows how strong Sharingan is.. and that he is on a whole different level of power.


Madara/Itachi
Pein
Naruto/Kirabi
JIraya/Orochimaru/Ms Sasuke/

Finally you agree!!!

 

[twistedlink]

Dude, JIraya wouldnt have won Pein even if he knew the secrets of his. Naruto who pretty much did, still failed to defeat a 30% Pein. (He was coughing up blood when he started fighting Naruto). Moreover, Naruto was exhausted and couldnt stand after the pein fight and Pein killed himself. He could have taken over Naruto with whatever jutsu he had there, but used that Rinne Tensei.


And do you really think Jiraya could have won Madara even if he knew his secret techniques?
Eveyone knew that MInato had space/time technique called FTG but noone could defeat him :|
Madara's technique is even greater.
There are techniques and abilities that are just.. impossible for someone to defeat even if you know how they work.

Jiraya is strong and so on, but he lost to Pein and Pein didnt even use his God Realm. ANd this was a fair fight, because Pein didn't know about Jiraya's abilities too.



Now think about it, Madara was controlling Pein who wasnt the one who would like to obey someone and Jiraya lost to Pein without him even using a God Realm. This only shows how strong Madara is.. and that he is on a whole different level of power.


Madara
Pein
Naruto/Itachi/Kirabi
JIraya/Orochimaru/Ms Sasuke/

Agreed.

I have personally never seen or understood the fascination everyone has with Jiraiya.

Quite frankly when you compare him to ninjas such as

Pain
Itachi
Madara
Kimimaro
Orochimaru
Sasori
Naruto even!

He really isnt that special.

Personally these ninjas can win against Jiraiya.

Pain proved it
Itachi is only a step below madara (maybe higher but we will never see his true power)
Madara, haha, yes, obviously he'd win
Kimimaro was very smart and very strong, with curse seals, and a body and skill in which orochimaru wanted
Sasori's movement can only be realised with chiyo, Jiraiya would have been poisoned and died repeatedly in that battle.
Naruto has achieved further hermit modes, and he can shoot out FRS and expand them to massive lengths, and has 4 sets of sage mode!!!

Naruto can use sage mode 4 times more than Jiraiya can, and at a higher skill level.


Seriously, i honestly dont understand peoples fascination with the man.

Itachi stated he didnt want to fight with Jiraiya to kisame, and kisame said

"I never knew we'd be up against a sannin"

Anyone noticed yet nearly every line of kisames has been heavily sarcastic??

Orochimaru was hiding away as akatsukis bitch, tsunade got owned by akatsuki, and jiraiya is on the same level as them.

Personally Kisame was taking the piss out of Jiraiya, for instance when jiraiya did turn up, itachi looked emotionless and kisame looked happy.

If they really feared him so, theyd be shitting themselves, which they didnt.

Also had itachi aimed amaterasu at jiraiya instead of jiraiyas jutsu, Jiraiya would be dead, i doubt hed have time to wack out some scrolls and seal the fire burning at his flesh at godly speed amaterasu spreads at.

 

[peaceful]

Kimimaro stronger than Jiraya? I love you

 

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

Agreed.

I have personally never seen or understood the fascination everyone has with Jiraiya.

Quite frankly when you compare him to ninjas such as

Pain
Itachi
Madara
Kimimaro
Orochimaru
Sasori
Naruto even!

He really isnt that special.

Personally these ninjas can win against Jiraiya.

Pain proved it
Itachi is only a step below madara (maybe higher but we will never see his true power)
Madara, haha, yes, obviously he'd win
Kimimaro was very smart and very strong, with curse seals, and a body and skill in which orochimaru wanted
Sasori's movement can only be realised with chiyo, Jiraiya would have been poisoned and died repeatedly in that battle.
Naruto has achieved further hermit modes, and he can shoot out FRS and expand them to massive lengths, and has 4 sets of sage mode!!!

Naruto can use sage mode 4 times more than Jiraiya can, and at a higher skill level.


Seriously, i honestly dont understand peoples fascination with the man.

Itachi stated he didnt want to fight with Jiraiya to kisame, and kisame said

"I never knew we'd be up against a sannin"

Anyone noticed yet nearly every line of kisames has been heavily sarcastic??

Orochimaru was hiding away as akatsukis bitch, tsunade got owned by akatsuki, and jiraiya is on the same level as them.

Personally Kisame was taking the piss out of Jiraiya, for instance when jiraiya did turn up, itachi looked emotionless and kisame looked happy.

If they really feared him so, theyd be shitting themselves, which they didnt.

Also had itachi aimed amaterasu at jiraiya instead of jiraiyas jutsu, Jiraiya would be dead, i doubt hed have time to wack out some scrolls and seal the fire burning at his flesh at godly speed amaterasu spreads at.

Uhh I agree except for Kimimaro part. I mean he had troubles defeating a drunk genin lee... then he hhad almost lost to Gaara, who was also a genin.
Don't you compare those two to Jiraya :|

 

[peaceful]

Uhh I agree except for Kimimaro part. I mean he had troubles defeating a drunk genin lee... then he hhad almost lost to Gaara, who was also a genin.
Don't you compare those two to Jiraya :|

No he is saying the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Steinbiz]

What manga is this said in??

I dont remember toad genjutsu ripping out souls and such, what manga # was this in??

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i must have read my other quote from a different manga, but this pretty much says the same thing.

he says the genjutsu paralyzes your nerves and your mind(a.k.a. soul), in other words, YOU CANNOT MOVE AT ALL WHAT-SO-EVER.

 

[peaceful]

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i must have read my other quote from a different manga, but this pretty much says the same thing.

he says the genjutsu paralyzes your nerves and your mind(a.k.a. soul), in other words, YOU CANNOT MOVE AT ALL WHAT-SO-EVER.

And how is he going to do that if your opponent is intaginble?

 

[Steinbiz]

Kimimaro stronger than Jiraya? I love you

so you are a jiraiya hater after all. and you call me biased?????

if you hate jiraiya so much, and this goes for twistedlink too, then stop making "poll" threads about him vs someone else. cuz obviously all you're going to do is yell at people for saying jiraiya wins. because jiraiya winning a fight defies your great knowledge and logic right?

lol kthnxbai

 

[peaceful]

so you are a jiraiya hater after all. and you call me biased?????

if you hate jiraiya so much, and this goes for twistedlink too, then stop making "poll" threads about him vs someone else. cuz obviously all you're going to do is yell at people for saying jiraiya wins. because jiraiya winning a fight defies your great knowledge and logic right?

lol kthnxbai

bahahaahahahha who is talking!!!!!!!!!!!! You are biased. Jiraya defeating Madara is fanfiction...

 

[TheCopyNinja]

so you are a jiraiya hater after all. and you call me biased?????

if you hate jiraiya so much, and this goes for twistedlink too, then stop making "poll" threads about him vs someone else. cuz obviously all you're going to do is yell at people for saying jiraiya wins. because jiraiya winning a fight defies your great knowledge and logic right?

lol kthnxbai

I agree with you there are some Jiraiya haters on here

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Pain said himself he couldn't beat Ero Sennin if the fight was level

And retreated with Kisame with him because he knew they didn't stand a chance

so I gave you this

Marada = Jiraiya

then ranked below him Pain, Itachi, Kisame and whoever you else you want to think that can beat Jiraiya

 

[Deidara...]

bahahaahahahha who is talking!!!!!!!!!!!! You are biased. Jiraya defeating Madara is fanfiction...

I AGREE jiraiyah would never beat madara but dont take away from the fact that he is a very powerful ninja if pein and j-man both knew everythiung about each other jman would win because his techs dont have any dire weak spots

and itachi said that if he fought j man he would be killed and kimimaro is cool but dont flatter him he would never hold his own to jman naruto would not win either r shuriken does not work on j man whose only element is fire and he can enter sage mode instantly

conclusion he would never be able to beat j man but dont say he is weak when he isnt

 

[Steinbiz]

I really don't see how there could be any Jiraiya haters out there, he's such a charismatic and likable character.

I do hate Madara, because so far everybody makes him look like god of the Naruto universe, even though we don't know his abilities. But I don't hate Itachi because his background was actually very pure-hearted from Sasuke and I respect that.

So when people tell me I'm biased when it comes to Jiraiya vs Itachi, I'm not at all. But when it comes to Jiraiya vs Madara, there might be very slight biased terms in my posts, but not on purpose. I do hate madara, but I can't deny that he is probably the most feared ninja of all time, besides the 4th Hokage(who was entitled "flee on sight").

So when it comes to Jiraiya vs Madara, I would love to say Jiraiya, but Madara has shown to have that space/time ninjutsu which makes every taijutsu or ninjutsu go straight through him. So even without having the Kyuubi by his side, I would still probably say Madara because that space/time jutsu is completely insane and overpowered. The only character in the show that could deal with that type of space/time jutsu would be the 4th Hokage of course, but he is dead sadly.

The 4th Hokage told Naruto that the only way to fight Madara is that one would have to have a very special ability. In other words the Kyuubi under your control(Naruto) or probably just being able to find a way to attack Madara without him teleporting away.

 

[Scorpio0Pharaoh0Titan]

The reason why Madara looks like a God in the Naruto Universe is because he is the main Antagonist.

If the Protagonists from the beginning were stronger than the Antagonists, then there wouldn't be much of a story.

The story revolves around the pain and suffering the good guys went through to overthrow the bad guys. in the end we know the bad guys will eventually be overthrown, but not when the story isn't finished.

I love Jiraiya, he is my favourite character. Just because he died to an Akatsuki doesn't make me hate him. I love a character because of what he/she does not what he/she could do.
Like Tsunade... for saving the rest of the village for example.

 

[Deidara...]

@ steinbiz

people dislike j man because he is a comic releif character turned hero comic relief characters kill the serious nature of the manga/ anime that is one reason why he is disliked

and you cant be accidently biased but you can concede and acknowlege that u are biased it shows that you take into consideration other views even though ultimately ur own opinion will outway the facts/opinions of others

and the kyubii was not controlled with some special version of the sharingan he was controlled with genjutsu ex. sasuke and manda

so if someone was skilled enough in genjutsu they could control anything or anyone

 

[Bancie]

Madara
Pein
Naruto/Itachi/Kirabi
JIraya/Orochimaru/Ms Sasuke/

I disagree. :|


I'd say it goes like this:

Madara/Itachi/Jiraiya
MS Sasuke
Killerbee
Orochimaru
Kakashi/Naruto/Pein



The bottom line is, if Madara could take on Itachi (not necessarily beat him), he could Jiraiya as well, since Itachi and Jiraiya are equal.