Madara vs Itachi (no sharingan battle)

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No, sharingan (or rinnegan), no genjutsu, no susanoo, no cheap one shotting techniques. Just pure skill, regular jutsu's and hand to hand combat. So which creme rises to the top? The wise, smart Itachi or the brute & calculating Madara?

Should be interesting.
 

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Madara speed blitzed sage mode naruto which would get speed blitzed by dsm mode kabuto which speed blitzed edo itachi (aka prime itachi).

Leh, madara solo's.
 

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Plus madara is more wiser than Itachi, the dude was fighting against the first hokage, a monster.
First hokage isn't that great at all honestly. He got rekted by basic edo madara which they both were at the same level.
So yeah too much praise they were evenly matched when they were alive and pre edo.
 

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First hokage isn't that great at all honestly. He got rekted by basic edo madara which they both were at the same level.
So yeah too much praise they were evenly matched when they were alive and pre edo.
He was pretty beast if you ask me, having the ability to nullify ninjutsu without truth seekers is pretty astonishing.
 

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First hokage isn't that great at all honestly. He got rekted by basic edo madara which they both were at the same level.
So yeah too much praise they were evenly matched when they were alive and pre edo.
But what happened at the end of the day, hashirama won, that say something + madara got rekt by a fodder BZ, nah.
 

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I'd say Madara because he is very intelligent (although I wouldn't say smarter than Itachi) plus he has more experience than Itachi. Also with Itachi's TB he is extremely limited in Taijutsu whereas Madars is extremely good at Taijutsu and knows more jutsu and jutsu strengths and weaknesses than Itachi. Itachi's too reliant on genjutsu
 

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The only reason this isn't a stomp, is that you restricted all genjutsu and not just sharingan genjutsu. Otherwise Ephemeral and a kunai would solo low diff. With the restrictions, Madara mid diff.

Base Itachi >>>> Base Madara
 
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