Madara, Sasuke, Obito

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sparks has mah real answer u.u what would it take to awaken the third tomoe? obito went from 2 to ms.
 

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Obito was a late bloomer.

He wasn't as good as Madara or Sasuke at a very young age.

Madara killed several adults before awakening his eyes and Sasuke had a genius brother that rubbed of his intelligence/skill towards his younger.

As soon as the people he cared about life was in danger, he showed great potential and killed an invisible chuunin with a Kunai knife.

Obito is a reflection of naruto, naruto who sucked at everything made Sasuke look weak during his battle against shukaku gaara.
 

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What ability do they have that surpasses Kamui? Susano'o? Amaterasu? lol
Obito's Genjutsu is also canonically comparable to Kotoamatsukami. Obito's eyes are obviously better.
 

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What ability do they have that surpasses Kamui? Susano'o? Amaterasu? lol
Obito's Genjutsu is also canonically comparable to Kotoamatsukami. Obito's eyes are obviously better.

If it's so obvious, why does the manga say Madara and Sasuke's eyes are better? :rolleyes:
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If it's so obvious, why does the manga say Madara and Sasuke's eyes are better? :rolleyes:
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Are they not talking about the EMS there? ...
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Also, the something beyond the bond of blood is just them being Indra's transmigrants. Nothing more. And those vague statements still don't explain how their Mangekyōs can beat Kamui.
 
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Madara says Sharingan, he doesn't differentiate between EMS, were you referring to strictly 3T?

I was referring to their own personal Sharingans. 3-T to Mangekyō.
"Straight comma" Sharingan is vague and makes no sense.
 

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I was referring to their own personal Sharingans. 3-T to Mangekyō.
"Straight comma" Sharingan is vague and makes no sense.

Well I don't know if it was due to making his mangekyo eternal, but Madara was talking about his Mangekyo here.

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And let's not forget Obito's MS was also backed up by Hashiroids, which is practically EMS :hint:
 

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Obito only has one jutsu and couldn't even use it as a jin unlike madara who could and did

Sasuke and madara genjutsu feats beat out obito's
Solo glance and mini IT and worldwide IT

On topic:
Maybe he been awakened it like sasuke and forgot.
He could've seen that old lady naked lol
 
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Well I don't know if it was due to making his mangekyo eternal, but Madara was talking about his Mangekyo here.

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And let's not forget Obito's MS was also backed up by Hashiroids, which is practically EMS :hint:

Look at Sasuke's eye. That is what Madara was sensing, his active Eternal Mangekyō.

True. Hashirama's juices did enhance Obito's Mangekyō. But he still had access to Kamui, Senju DNA or no. And Kamui > every other MS ability.
 

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Look at Sasuke's eye. That is what Madara was sensing, his active Eternal Mangekyō.

True. Hashirama's juices did enhance Obito's Mangekyō. But he still had access to Kamui, Senju DNA or no. And Kamui > every other MS ability.

That's just one way of looking at it. All MS techniques are hax, Kamui is epecially tricky to deal with because it is a S/T technique, but when it comes to fire power Susano trumps it. Obito never awakened a Susano (without Rikudo chakra) while Sasuke and Itachi did at MS.
 

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That's just one way of looking at it. All MS techniques are hax, Kamui is epecially tricky to deal with because it is a S/T technique, but when it comes to fire power Susano trumps it. Obito never awakened a Susano (without Rikudo chakra) while Sasuke and Itachi did at MS.
Yes it does, in firepower. But as an overall technique Kamui is better. There's hardly any character who can counter it, its speed is amazing, and it is without a doubt the best defense in the manga. Not to mention everything Susano'o throws at a Kamui user is bypassed and Susano'o itself is walked right through.
 
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