Madara said it himself the Senjutsu power is weak.
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This thread is wrong to due to these reasons below:
- Hashirama was weakened and most likely did not even mold full Sage chakra... which get absorbed and contained via black rods impaled in his back..
- Madara getting revived is Edo Tensei body... became perfect combination of Uchiha and Senjuu DNA. In other words he has not only huge amount of chakra as Hashirama's but also more of it(His Uchiha's) and also quality of this chakra is also ver powerfull as Uchiha Madara's chakra was from his birth. Even if Madara stole full Sage chakra from Hashirama's body then still he will not be impressed because his quality of chakra > quality of Hashirama's chakra.
- Madara has Hashirama's face tattooed on his chest... so it make balancing of Hashirama's chakra much easier as from Hashirama's body this Sage chakra got transfered to another body but still possesing some of Hashirama's body.
- This translation is incorrect... because Madara didn't not state that Senjutsu power is weak... but quanity of this Senjutsu chakra is dissapointing due to Hashirama only molding small amount of chakra... Also quality of Current Madara's chakra is much higher then quality of Hashriama's chakra alone
- Sasuke is not even comparable to Madara especially if we are reffering to Senjuu powers or even better Senjutsu. Madara has Hashirama's face(part of his body) besides he could expierience and watch how to do it... a lot of times. Sasuke has not such privilege.
- This thread's purpouse was to wank and overrate Sasuke in disguise while underrating and hating on Naruto's character to make him weaker
- Hashirama's Sage mode and Naruto's Sage mode are not the same... so not the same rules apply here
- Sage mode boost all your basic stats of your base state... so you can not compare Toad SM to hashirama's SM, because Hashirama's base form > Naruto's base form...you need both comparable characters in base form and then using different kinds of SM to compare them in right way and pull right conclusion.
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- Hashirama was weakened and most likely did not even mold full Sage chakra... which get absorbed and contained via black rods impaled in his back..
- Madara getting revived is Edo Tensei body... became perfect combination of Uchiha and Senjuu DNA. In other words he has not only huge amount of chakra as Hashirama's but also more of it(His Uchiha's) and also quality of this chakra is also ver powerfull as Uchiha Madara's chakra was from his birth. Even if Madara stole full Sage chakra from Hashirama's body then still he will not be impressed because his quality of chakra > quality of Hashirama's chakra.
- Madara has Hashirama's face tattooed on his chest... so it make balancing of Hashirama's chakra much easier as from Hashirama's body this Sage chakra got transfered to another body but still possesing some of Hashirama's body.
- This translation is incorrect... because Madara didn't not state that Senjutsu power is weak... but quanity of this Senjutsu chakra is dissapointing due to Hashirama only molding small amount of chakra... Also quality of Current Madara's chakra is much higher then quality of Hashriama's chakra alone
- Sasuke is not even comparable to Madara especially if we are reffering to Senjuu powers or even better Senjutsu. Madara has Hashirama's face(part of his body) besides he could expierience and watch how to do it... a lot of times. Sasuke has not such privilege.
- This thread's purpouse was to wank and overrate Sasuke in disguise while underrating and hating on Naruto's character to make him weaker
- Hashirama's Sage mode and Naruto's Sage mode are not the same... so not the same rules apply here
- Sage mode boost all your basic stats of your base state... so you can not compare Toad SM to hashirama's SM, because Hashirama's base form > Naruto's base form...you need both comparable characters in base form and then using different kinds of SM to compare them in right way and pull right conclusion.
/Thread + neg rep for you
Yeah I don't get why people Wank sage mode so much. Sage mode is purely dependent on the user as noted between Jiraiya, Naruto, Kabuto, and Hashirama....Clearly there's no doubt that among all Senjutsu users Hashirama is by far the strongest, simply because his Statue is unmatched, not even Naruto stands a chance against him without Kyuubi more or less despite his Perfect Sage Mode.
His chakra levels are enormous and unseen for a living human.
It's also true that what keeps Madara alive is the very same Sage Mode by Hashirama.
Well... nevertheless, Madara just did pity on that power as a weak power.
He was displeased the moment he gained all of it.
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The Sennin power is overall overrated and not so hard to be learned, which discredits it since Madara just used it with ease.
It also means that Sasuke can learn that power in no time if he wanted.
However, Hashirama was not revived full power and he was weakended
sasuke have a incomplete SM since part one
- Madara placed those rods in hashirama, point?
- we knew this alread
- knew this alread
- Manga>you madara absorbed SM from hashi and wasnt impressed with the power.
- once again manga> you orochimaru said he would surpass madara, and now madara has praised sasuke, he is compareable, also sasuke had a incomplete sm since part 1
- not its not.
- clearly obvi
-?
you basically didnt prove anything, just a bunch of opinion over manga.
The bold words, it is very stretched/far-fetched statement. Of course I not doubt that Sasuke has Curse seal which in essence is Sage transformation of Juugo which also uses Senjutsu... but still it is not Sm... just fake SM.
- truth... my point Hashirama could not gather FULL AMOUNT OF SAGE CHAKRA... due to his reserves being depleted and being weaken for sake of controlling him via black roods.
- ok
- ok
- not unless you bring the scan of Viz... or from *********** where correct translation appears.
- Truth but Orochimaru has talked about Future not Present time, also we don't know to what the version he was reffering... maybe Vote EMS Madara or most likely Edo Madara... as when he appeared then currently back then they were dealing with Edo Madara... Current Madara could be beyond Sasuke's reach or no... let's wait and see before giving judgement.
- ok, everyone has right to have own opinion but from point of view the reason was clear.
- I am glad we agree
- Simple... A lot of memebers state that due to SM Naruto being weaker then SM Hashirama ... then Hashirama's Sage mode > Toad Sage mode... but this is not truth as Base Naruto is not even comparable to Base Hashirama... and we know that SM works as boost and mulitplier. I only wanted to clear this point for Sauke's fan base to not state: Hashirama's Senjutsu is easy to control-> Toad SM should be even easier and less impressive. Naruto Sennin mode maybe.... but not all taod sennin users...
Maybe it sounds selfish... but I think I brought more manga facts then opinions... so please consider them as fact.
If you don't agree then let's stay with our opinions and not need to change it... unless you have doubt that you are right.
Harry Balzac
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He has the full thing. Just like he can use mokuton based jutsu on the level of hashirama, he can now use sage mode on his level as well.
yeah but it still used senjutsu charka based ninjutsu. And it still required skill to use.
-lol so your saying madara beat him and disabled his SM ability? cuz once again he place those rods inside of haashirama
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- in the manga scan that most ppl read it says madara absorbed it then said " so this is the SM power, not impressed"
Manga> speculation
- excatly, we do know madara praised him and orochimaru said he would surpass him
- no SM is easy to control, but madara made it look easy, which shows his supreme skills and abilites
