Madara is way more overrated than Itachi

[AlphaScythian]

face to the palm again

How did ya read my mind? _@:
Yes do it, in order to redeem urself

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Itachi fan boys are extra bad because a good majority swear they are intellectuals and feel as though they have the best manga comprehension and such, no one will ever be more overrated than itachi on the base, he's got too many fans over here.

he's just popular that's all and 95% of those "fanboys/fantards/Itachitards" who think Itachi solos everything are just bad trolls not Itachi fans

 

[Retsu]

he's just popular that's all and 95% of those "fanboys/fantards/Itachitards" who think Itachi solos everything are just bad trolls not Itachi fans

nope, read a post from someone like shelke and then come back and talk to me, they're not even trolling half the time, they are dead serious.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

PS is way more powerful then biju naruto. What are u taking?

Considering what we've seen of Naruto's durability with chakra mode and cloaks alone, as well as speed and power, PS would not take down biju Naruto easily if, at all. One factor never put into consideration is that Naruto with Kurama cloak, can still move fast. He certainly is faster that a susanoo, meaning he could evade a slash (directly form the sword). He could grab Madara's blades with his tails, rendering his attacks useless. He could also withstand the shockwaves of the blade. He survived tenpenchi with KCM. That attack wipped out the land scape. Naruto's durability is probably greater with Kurama cloak.


Naruto's TBBs would hurt the susanoo. We saw PS tank a smaller one, but Naruto has been shown to make much larger ones.

I understand why so many people think Madara wins, however, it wouldn't be a stomp.

 

[AlphaScythian]

nope, read a post from someone like shelke and then come back and talk to me, they're not even trolling half the time, they are dead serious.

They are serious cuz they have room to get serious. Kishi has ****ed up with uchiha powers.
Totsuka can extend itself for long range like kusanagi and seals all
Yata mirror also extends to block all attacks.
Sharingans superior visual capabilities + amaterasu that burns anything at focal point.
All this is manga fact, all this allows itachi easily take on any1 until manga states otherwise.
And its ****ing legit

 

[Retsu]

They are serious cuz they have room to get serious. Kishi has ****ed up with uchiha powers.
Totsuka can extend itself for long range like kusanagi and seals all
Yata mirror also extends to block all attacks.
Sharingans superior visual capabilities + amaterasu that burns anything at focal point.
All this is manga fact, all this allows itachi easily take on any1 until manga states otherwise.
And its ****ing legit

nah, not the juubi though, I've heard a lot of Itachi fans say he can solo it, and they are not joking. I could argue about why he's not so great but I'm not, it'd be futile anyways, but itachi is more overrated than Madara, at least on the base.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Considering what we've seen of Naruto's durability with chakra mode and cloaks alone, as well as speed and power, PS would not take down biju Naruto easily if, at all. One factor never put into consideration is that Naruto with Kurama cloak, can still move fast. He certainly is faster that a susanoo, meaning he could evade a slash (directly form the sword). He could grab Madara's blades with his tails, rendering his attacks useless. He could also withstand the shockwaves of the blade. He survived tenpenchi with KCM. That attack wipped out the land scape. Naruto's durability is probably greater with Kurama cloak.

Chakra cloak has a mass and will slow down naruto. Naruto isnt dodging PS slash. The speed and power of that shit if off the charts. Naruto isnt that fast. I hardly doubt chakra arms will overpower PS that is bigger then full kurama. The cutting power of the slash is too much for naruto as well. Tenpachi sucked even madara said so.

Naruto's TBBs would hurt the susanoo. We saw PS tank a smaller one, but Naruto has been shown to make much larger ones.

U forget at least 11 TBBs that also caught PS in blast area + budda on top to just peal 70% of susanoo armour.

I understand why so many people think Madara wins, however, it wouldn't be a stomp.

Because naruto can only survive for 10 minutes and has nothing on madara.

 

[AlphaScythian]

nah, not the juubi though, I've heard a lot of Itachi fans say he can solo it, and they are not joking. I could argue about why he's not so great but I'm not, it'd be futile anyways, but itachi is more overrated than Madara, at least on the base.

Not the juubi. But the juubi has much hype. Madara views it like a baby, so does obito, and it was pwned b4 y some fodder. Then wouldnt supernatural items and supernatural fire do the job? Cuz it wouldnt make sense?
Does it make sense to control 7 bijus? or tame lighting? Or kamui? Just watch juubi is getting trolled soon. Even hashi puts it in shadows according to madara.

 

[Retsu]

Not the juubi. But the juubi has much hype. Madara views it like a baby, so does obito, and it was pwned b4 y some fodder. Then wouldnt supernatural items and supernatural fire do the job? Cuz it wouldnt make sense?
Does it make sense to control 7 bijus? or tame lighting? Or kamui? Just watch juubi is getting trolled soon. Even hashi puts it in shadows according to madara.

I dunno, I'd feel like kishi would have made them relevant to plot or maybe even objectives for the alliance if they are powerful enough to stop the end of the world, imho though, totsuka blade cannot stop the juubi.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Chakra cloak has a mass and will slow down naruto. Naruto isnt dodging PS slash. The speed and power of that shit if off the charts. Naruto isnt that fast. I hardly doubt chakra arms will overpower PS that is bigger then full kurama. The cutting power of the slash is too much for naruto as well. Tenpachi sucked even madara said so.
U forget at least 11 TBBs that also caught PS in blast area + budda on top to just peal 70% of susanoo armour.
Because naruto can only survive for 10 minutes and has nothing on madara.

Madara said no such thing. In fact...

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He was certain that it'd finish them off. In fact, He was shocked when it didn't.

We've never seen a susanoo slash capable of this

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I'll list more points later.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Why didnt u look to the page when madara is shocked saying "it's all u could do? come on baby ill get u out of here" -.-

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Why didnt u look to the page when madara is shocked saying "it's all u could do? come on baby ill get u out of here" -.-

You mean this?

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I'm pretty sure that Madara was talking to Naruto. Some logic that supports it is that he said that after the cloaks dispersed, not after tenpenchi was done. This indicates that it was a response to Naruto's chakra fading, not the 10 tails.

 

[KidGamer65]

hype is irrelevant
according to hype prime Hiruzen counters everything
hype should be a non-factor in debates
anyway Hashirama > Madara's full power + Kurama and you already stated a few days ago that 25susanoo clones and meteors were crap compared to PS so I don't know why I'm even arguing with you
Madara is not the 2nd strongest ninja

1.Hashirama
2.Madara

Number 2 Madara. He is the 2nd strongest ninja. Him being weaker than Hashirama doesn't make him not number 2 because Hashirama is number 1.

Hype wasn't the point moron, the fact that Itachi called Madara invincible means that he is inferior.

When you can name someone other than Hashirama who is stronger than EMS Madara then you can continue to spout your BS.

 

[hernandez93901]

He isn't being overrated more than Itachi.. Those Itachi fanboys are being serious when they say "Itachi > Juubi". They get hyped cause of Totsuka and Yata.

^Couldn't agree more .____.

 

[naruttebayo]

madara can't be overrated cuz he is actually powerful
& itachi is way more overrated

i mean to say even if you want to overrate madara you can't overrate him anyway
and he has feats to back it up like against the five kage
those 5 kages were no joke
onoki has partical release
gara has control over sand
tsunade super human strength
A has superspeed and endurance
mei has shown the ability to melt the incomplete susanoo
and they got trolled so bad

i bet itachi can't have such feat even in his dream

the truth is, i dislike madara, but even i have to agree, he is op, not overrated.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

I disagree. Itachi is vastly overrated, there's just as many people overrating Itachi as their are Madara, the difference is that Madara is Actually a lot more powerful than Itachi.

 

[MrLukyso]

Even without the trolls Itachi is still overrated. Where have you seen someone overrate EMS Madara? I haven't seen anyone overrate him in a while.

Hashirama
Madara
Obito

Madara beats everyone below him bar Obito due to not being able to cope with Kamui, meaning he gets outlasted.

2nd strongest ninja in the manga.

1st strongest ninja when he is with Rinnegan.

And we can still debate on who is stronger Hashirama or EMS Madara, since the ending of that battle was not clear, Madara wasn't killed which means he wasn't defeated.. also he needed to fool Hashirama only because he turned his EMS Off too soon and list goes on..

But it is EMS Madara with Hashirama shares 1-2 position, but Madara with Rinnegan and his current feats overpowers everything besides Sage and Jyuubi.

Itachi does not even compare, he's a fodder compared with Obito, Madara, Hashirama and so.

 

[bl4ckJack]

I agree with u lol ... both are crazy ...
hes strong ( but sadly a poor hybrid edo what people worship mainly ) but madara is also a wanky whining looser to me :heh:
sorry fanboys :devil:

 

[RikudoKami]

How can the only Uchiha to ever awaken the Rinnegan possibly be overrated? Don't worry he is going to separate the Bijuu from the Juubi so he can use Rinnegan since the Juubi is unpredictable.

 

[KidGamer65]

1st strongest ninja when he is with Rinnegan.

And we can still debate on who is stronger Hashirama or EMS Madara, since the ending of that battle was not clear, Madara wasn't killed which means he wasn't defeated.. also he needed to fool Hashirama only because he turned his EMS Off too soon and list goes on..

But it is EMS Madara with Hashirama shares 1-2 position, but Madara with Rinnegan and his current feats overpowers everything besides Sage and Jyuubi.

Itachi does not even compare, he's a fodder compared with Obito, Madara, Hashirama and so.

Death and defeat are not synonymous, Madara clearly lost that fight, he just lived on to fulfill his true ambition.