Madara is Uchiha Kagami

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The reason I say that Madara is Uchiha Kagami is that when Madara remove his mask he is seen having wrinkles. And Uchiha Kagami meets the age same age requirement. (About the same age as Hiruzen Sarutobi). He may be angry that the first hokage defeated Uchiha Madara. Or Maybe he's Madara son?
This is just something I thought about. No offense to anyone.


For those who don't know who Uchiha Kagami is please go to narutopedia and search on him. I can't post any link cause my post have not exceeded 10. Thanks.
 

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i dont think so. if itachi knew it was kagami he would have not lied about madara still being alive. plus kisame is the only man besides zetsu that was really close to him and kisame has recongizd madara as madara and kisame has seen his face and said he was madara. stop acting like madara hasnt shown his face to anyone he showed it to sasuke well before sasuke burned him he would have seen it but we all know how that played out. he was itachi's mentor and prolly helped itachi gain the mangekyou by killing shisui. madara is who he says he is and thats madara. plus kagami has short hair and when aoba searched kisame's mind we see a sharingan user with long hair like madara had back when he fought the first
 

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i dont think so. if itachi knew it was kagami he would have not lied about madara still being alive. plus kisame is the only man besides zetsu that was really close to him and kisame has recongizd madara as madara and kisame has seen his face and said he was madara. stop acting like madara hasnt shown his face to anyone he showed it to sasuke well before sasuke burned him he would have seen it but we all know how that played out. he was itachi's mentor and prolly helped itachi gain the mangekyou by killing shisui. madara is who he says he is and thats madara. plus kagami has short hair and when aoba searched kisame's mind we see a sharingan user with long hair like madara had back when he fought the first
itachi,kisame and aoba were kids when masked man tobi/madara showed up to attack, noone at that time besides kazuku was old enough to have seen madara in person before his final fight with the 1st, for all they know it could be kagami just telling them hes madara its not like we see old kagami or "tobi's" real face. and whoever is behind the mask created zetsu so he can tell him hes whoever he wants to be (he still refers to him as tobi which makes people wonder). but once again, hair styles change kagami was a teen when we saw him he could grow his hair out as an adult and cut it again later.

i do think "tobi" is madara like he says he is, but as far as suprise theorys go id pick kagami over obito anyday.
 

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i kinda see what allan saying. cuz if we look at the timelime when kisame first saw his face he had long hair. then when itachi sought him out his hair was long but kinda shorter than it was. then when he fought the 4th hokage his hair was short as we seen when he took off his mask to show sasuke his face.
 

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itachi,kisame and aoba were kids when masked man tobi/madara showed up to attack, noone at that time besides kazuku was old enough to have seen madara in person before his final fight with the 1st, for all they know it could be kagami just telling them hes madara its not like we see old kagami or "tobi's" real face. and whoever is behind the mask created zetsu so he can tell him hes whoever he wants to be (he still refers to him as tobi which makes people wonder). but once again, hair styles change kagami was a teen when we saw him he could grow his hair out as an adult and cut it again later.

i do think "tobi" is madara like he says he is, but as far as suprise theorys go id pick kagami over obito anyday.
i agree with you too saru i cant wait to see how this turns out
 

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Madara only wants to control the world, however, it seemed he has a bitter resentment more towards Danzo and possibly the 3rd Hokage, Sarutobi. But Madara took on the alias Tobi. Could that be a shortened name for Sarutobi? You could be onto something. Maybe Kagami Uchiha is after those mainly who wanted to kill for peace. Maybe Tobi is a tributary to Sarutobi and Kagami is trying to create peace like the 3rd wanted while exacting revenge on those whom he thought were friends like Danzo?
 

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Madara only wants to control the world, however, it seemed he has a bitter resentment more towards Danzo and possibly the 3rd Hokage, Sarutobi. But Madara took on the alias Tobi. Could that be a shortened name for Sarutobi? You could be onto something. Maybe Kagami Uchiha is after those mainly who wanted to kill for peace. Maybe Tobi is a tributary to Sarutobi and Kagami is trying to create peace like the 3rd wanted while exacting revenge on those whom he thought were friends like Danzo?
the 2nd hokage's name was also tobirama, another possible source (its said the 2nd made space/time jutsu) possible source from his space/time powers, kagami was the one who suggested someone be a sacrifice which led to the 2nd (brother of madara's and the uchiha's mortal enemy) being killed probably knowing he'd act for the greater good of the village and give his life up, getting rid of a powerful enemy. we never see either tobi or kagami's eyes change shape, hes the right age to be where madara is/was, former teammates of danzo and the 3rd so hes sure to have connections and hes not seen fighting the fox during the attack.

its a pretty convenient character to just stick in a flashback and give him only a couple lines and hes in a perfect spot you can bend the blank spaces around and tie loose ends together and make it seem possible lol
 
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