Madara is better than Hashirama

[take it easy]

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If you look closely it did fly right at Maddy, still couldn't defeat him.

because edo immortality

 

[Supreme x Uchiha]

@Naijakid - he really didn't; are we even reading the same manga?

 

[KingHashirama]

He was trying to stab Hashirama, while Hashirama was easily dodging him = Madara not trying

#Fanboy logic never gets old.


Madara putting 6 black rods in Hashirama's back and then being trapped and put down by Hashirama = Madara not trying.


#fanboy excuses never get old.

 

[Ahmed1993]

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[xxSAGExx]

No matter how you slice it, Madara is greater than Hashirama. Chapter 656 proves it too.

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Madara has been toying with him from the start. His real goal was to be alive again, as he said before.

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While Madara is just chilling in the wooden dragon, Hashirama is out of breath and was impaled by 6 black rods (possibly giving Madara a power up)

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Madara tanked the Rasenshuriken easily and even thanks Naruto for making his job so easy, while Hashirama thinks the battle is over.

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And finally, Madara easily breaks out of Hashirama's restricting jutsu, the same one he used to successfully restrain the Juubi.

Bottom line, Madara is going to have all you fanboys disappear for a while next chapter.

Really? So Madara having a "Special" edo tensei that of his prime power

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while Tobirama said the Hokages weren't at full power, just almost at their full power

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. Hashirama even split his chakra by making 6-7 clones while Tobirama made 2

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. Oh they're Edos with unlimited chakra so making clones means nothing? uh wrong, Tobirama, the creator even said even if they canceled the clones that they still wouldn't make it (power wise)

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[TheAwesomeOne]

I agree. Around the VOTE fight, Madara only had EMS, now he has EMS, Rinnegan, and Moukuton. I honestly just dont see Hashirama "soloing" Madara at all.

 

[TheSages456]

LMFAO, im done.


you think madara was joking when he said that he wanted to obtain hashiramas senjutsu?

no matter how you slice it, madara did everything he could to subdue hashirama and failed miserably. he ended up being subdued himself.

 

[Champ]

Obviously, Madara is about to fight the world now

 

[RikudouMadara]

He was trying to stab Hashirama, while Hashirama was easily dodging him = Madara not trying

#Fanboy logic never gets old.


Madara putting 6 black rods in Hashirama's back and then being trapped and put down by Hashirama = Madara not trying.


#fanboy excuses never get old.

Well.....once he was supposedly held down it was two Vs one. Anywho....Madara has launched his counter attack he and Hashiramas fight is not yet over. Well...he and Hashirama and Narutos fight is not over. We have to wait and see how Hashirama handles Madara counter attack.

No disrespect, just saying...their fight isn't over until we see how Hashirama deals with Madaras counter attack.

 

[Ahmed1993]

LMFAO, im done.


you think madara was joking when he said that he wanted to obtain hashiramas senjutsu?

no matter how you slice it, madara did everything he could to subdue hashirama and failed miserably. he ended up being subdued himself.

Why would he need Hashi's SM when Obito is beaten ?
Also did we saw the fight so that you can say they were going all out ?
And one last thing : if you were in the place of Madara what would you have done :
Play it tough and beat everybody and risk the death of Obito by the enemy?
Or play it sneaky and using Rinne Tensei in secret ?

I've known even before i sign up here , and you are by far the biggest hater i've ever seen.
That's why you don't wanna believe facts and reasonable thinking.

 

[TheSages456]

Why would he need Hashi's SM when Obito is beaten ?

they had started fighting far before obitos defeat. why would you even say something as easily refutable as that? when we see the outcome of their fight, hashirama has madara caught up in the mokuryu.

Also did we saw the fight so that you can say they were going all out ?

its your job to prove that they werent. we didnt see any part of their fight prior to this chapter so you dont have any evidence regardless.

And one last thing : if you were in the place of Madara what would you have done :
Play it tough and beat everybody and risk the death of Obito by the enemy?
Or play it sneaky and using Rinne Tensei in secret ?

dont ask stupid questions like this. madara stated that he wanted hashiramas senjutsu. he tried to obtain it. he failed. it really is this simple.

I've known even before i sign up here , and you are by far the biggest hater i've ever seen.
That's why you don't wanna believe facts and reasonable thinking.

please stop with your ridiculously histrionic views.im taking the manga scans as their presented. you need to stop trying to apply your hypothetical situations and "reasonable thinking" to the manga.

you need to take everything as its presented without question or excuses and if the author implies nothing, assume nothing.

this isnt your manga. you dont get to change anything that you dont seem fit with your "reasonable thinking". thats garbage.

that line of thinking will solidify you being wrong about everything when the manga reveals information on a debated topic and it will have you making even more excuses to justify you being wrong.

 

[KingHashirama]

Well.....once he was supposedly held down it was two Vs one. Anywho....Madara has launched his counter attack he and Hashiramas fight is not yet over. Well...he and Hashirama and Narutos fight is not over. We have to wait and see how Hashirama handles Madara counter attack.

No disrespect, just saying...their fight isn't over until we see how Hashirama deals with Madaras counter attack.

Once he was held down Hashirama could've just sat there while Madara got his chakra sucked away. Naruto's attack was going to simply provide the opening to seal Madara away faster. But had failed.

Their fight is actually over.. Edo Madara vs Edo Hashirama fight resulted in Madara being restrained while Hashirama being free and exhausted for some reason.

The current fight is pretty a lop sided and applies this logic:

A vs B = A is the winner

A vs B again but with B having full power back, while A being tired down.

In the end Hashirama has already been called the God of Shinobi, I don't know why Madara fans or others get hurt or mad about that and try to make their character stronger than him. (not trying to be rude or anything , and not talking about you, but just the Madara wankers and Hashirama haters).

 

[Skywardsword]

And Pain Sama is better than them both.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

You mean the Hashirama that fought the Ten Tails and Obito for a while then beat up Madara?

 

[RikudouMadara]

Once he was held down Hashirama could've just sat there while Madara got his chakra sucked away. Naruto's attack was going to simply provide the opening to seal Madara away faster. But had failed.

Their fight is actually over.. Edo Madara vs Edo Hashirama fight resulted in Madara being restrained while Hashirama being free and exhausted for some reason.

The current fight is pretty a lop sided and applies this logic:

A vs B = A is the winner

A vs B again but with B having full power back, while A being tired down.

Yes....they were both Edo, but just because Madara is now alive doesn't mean the fight is over. That would be like saying if you and I were fighting and you had me down, but I say now I will counter attack, that fight continues because I'm still here to fight and ready to continue. You cannot just walk away.

Only Hashirama believed it to be over. There is no fight between Edo Hashirama and Edo Madara. That is just something we believe....there is no distinction when it comes to Kishi. It is only Madara vs Hashirama, and nao Madara is about to retaliate. The fight is over when either opposition is unable to continue. Madara was able to continue because of his counter attack. Again....you know I mean no disrespect, but without actually being in front of someone words like this can sometimes be interpreted as such.

 

[Seventh Sama]

No duh, madara has rinnegan and Mokuton. its pretty obvious that the one with the stolen power would be stronger.

 

[KingHashirama]

Yes....they were both Edo, but just because Madara is now alive doesn't mean the fight is over. That would be like saying if you and I were fighting and you had me down, but I say now I will counter attack, that fight continues because I'm still here to fight and ready to continue. You cannot just walk away.

Only Hashirama believed it to be over. There is no fight between Edo Hashirama and Edo Madara. That is just something we believe....there is no distinction when it comes to Kishi. It is only Madara vs Hashirama, and nao Madara is about to retaliate. The fight is over when either opposition is unable to continue. Madara was able to continue because of his counter attack. Again....you know I mean no disrespect, but without actually being in front of someone words like this can sometimes be interpreted as such.

Actually it does mean the fight is over, since it is no more 1 vs 1.. and that Madara got all his chakra back that had been taken away by Hashirama and used by him.. Yea but the only thing is Madara's counterattack wasn't for the fight.. it was for the war.


No fight between Hashirama VS Madara would be Hashirama being alive at his full power.. considering the fact he wasn't even revived at full power. . With your logic you would be saying Hiruzen beat Hashirama and Tobirama.. when the reality is he didn't.

Madara is about to do a counter attack for the war thanks to Naruto.


If you believe a fight between a weakened Hashirama with rods stabbed in his back vs a full powered Madara would prove who is stronger .. than i believe you are mistaken. my friend (not trying to be rude or anything).

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Hashirama had Madara beat. He caught him and restrained him. If not for Obito resurrecting him, they were literally just waiting for someone to seal him. Edo Madara needed an upgrade to escape defeat, meaning that as he was at the time, he had lost to Hashirama. This is the fact.

Now whatever boost Madara gets by being alive is yet to be seen but I doubt any scenario where he actually takes on four Hokage, five Kage, Naruto, Sasuke, Orochimaru and a Kyubi powered shinobi world, would be anything realistic. I don't think next week's manga would be some of Kishi's best work. I expect trolling which saddens me really. Though, Kishi might somehow pull through.

 

[Ahmed1993]

they had started fighting far before obitos defeat. why would you even say something as easily refutable as that? when we see the outcome of their fight, hashirama has madara caught up in the mokuryu.

its your job to prove that they werent. we didnt see any part of their fight prior to this chapter so you dont have any evidence regardless.

dont ask stupid questions like this. madara stated that he wanted hashiramas senjutsu. he tried to obtain it. he failed. it really is this simple.

please stop with your ridiculously histrionic views.im taking the manga scans as their presented. you need to stop trying to apply your hypothetical situations and "reasonable thinking" to the manga.

you need to take everything as its presented without question or excuses and if the author implies nothing, assume nothing.

this isnt your manga. you dont get to change anything that you dont seem fit with your "reasonable thinking". thats garbage.

that line of thinking will solidify you being wrong about everything when the manga reveals information on a debated topic and it will have you making even more excuses to justify you being wrong.

Can't they sense that Obito is defeated ?
Idk about Hashirama , but Madara clearly portrayed the he is a sensor ( when he sensed Hashi's chakra in the scan 628 )


Actually i have , after Obito nuked the place ,Madara lost his PS and Hashirama lost his Mokujin.
After that we see them going at each other with simple taijutsu.

That contradict your all out nonsense.

It is not stupid , its logical , its just that you are too butthurt to admit it.
Madara tried gaining SM , noticed that Obito is defeated ( thanks to his sensing ability ) and choose to fake his loss so that they don't kill Obito.

And why he needed to act that way ?
simple , watch what happened the first time he tried to use Obito : Sasuke and Minato were going to kill Obito and Minato even slashed him.
So it make sense that he have to fake his loss.

I have manga facts and reasonable and logical thinking by my side unlike you who have biased thinking.

I didn't change anything , simply deduced logical thinking from facts.


All what you said in your last paragraph summarize your reasoning , in short you gave advice to yourself because you are the wrong one.

I know that you wont accept it because your the typical hater who don't admit when he is wrong.

 

[FlemSmack]

Edo Madara got his ass handed to him by a weakened version of Hashirama.