Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

[~Sovereign~]

I turned you against yourself, Your arguments contradict. First your saying that for a training lesson you can not use words, that since Madara did not have his Rinnegan he could not teach Rinnegan Techniques but now your saying that Kakashi was able to teach Naruto to use his Wind without possessing Wind which is in favor of my argument. You defeated Yourself.

LMAO

do you seriously not see the diference? or are you trolling?

madara and obito = were training WITHOUT ANY RINNEGAN!!!!! THERE WAS NO RINNEGAN PRESENT!!!!!

kakashi and naruto = kakashi telling naruto good way to use his wind element and form it with rasengan

naruto was doing his training as kakashi was talking

obito and madara just sitting there TALKING without no training, do you see the difference now?

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

lets just stop all this

i know thats y i did hmm maybe we all need a moment collect our breath breathe in and out and have a nice cup of tea or a bowl of ramen to soothe our

minds inner peace as Shifu says inner inner peace

 

[~Sovereign~]

He got you.... + rep for finding that xd

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that wasnt even a funny one man...you ruin the picture jokes now lol

 

[Varrah]

Spoiler

None of this matters because Madara still can't beat Pre-crysis Superman. *Superman flies in grabs the Juubi and throws it into the sun with Obito and Madara*

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But of course, Pre-Crisis Superman can even potentially defeat Goku.

 

[Yasuko Sayomi]

that wasnt even a funny one man...you ruin the picture jokes now lol

Nope. Im pretty sure I didn't ruin it. xd

 

[~Sovereign~]

this thread died fast....lol

 

[Microsword57]

LMAO

do you seriously not see the diference? or are you trolling?

madara and obito = were training WITHOUT ANY RINNEGAN!!!!! THERE WAS NO RINNEGAN PRESENT!!!!!

kakashi and naruto = kakashi telling naruto good way to use his wind element and form it with rasengan

naruto was doing his training as kakashi was talking

obito and madara just sitting there TALKING without no training, do you see the difference now?

I do not think you get it. The Manga says Madara taught Obito the Rinnegan techniques[

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]. Madara also explained that since Obito had some Senju DNA and that he was an Uchiha that some Rinnegan Techniques could be used such as Summoning the Gezo Statue and controlling it without possessing the Rinnegan. The point in what I was saying is that Madara can teach with words. You supported this by saying Kakashi taught Naruto to use his Wind with Words, but before this statement was made you said that a training lesson could not be taught with words. That is the contradiction in your argument.

that wasnt even a funny one man...you ruin the picture jokes now lol

It made me laugh.

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

this thread died fast....lol

Well, some people are missing the point of the thread and others are posting nonsense.

 

[~Sovereign~]

I do not think you get it. The Manga says Madara taught Obito the Rinnegan techniques[

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]. Madara also explained that since Obito had some Senju DNA and that he was an Uchiha that some Rinnegan Techniques could be used such as Summoning the Gezo Statue and controlling it without possessing the Rinnegan. The point in what I was saying is that Madara can teach with words. You supported this by saying Kakashi taught Naruto to use his Wind with Words, but before this statement was made you said that a training lesson could not be taught with words. That is the contradiction in your argument.

It made me laugh.

you still dont get it lol

kakashi is talking and WATCHING.....naruto is training with the wind element, then kakshi just telling naruto more tips

this goes back to what i said about minato and j-man, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE CAN TALK (J-MAN) AND DOESNT HAVE AN ABILITY (MINATO's ABILITY), doesnt mean that j-man cant HELP

THE DIFFERENCE AGAIN: jiriaya was physically THERE to WATCH minato practice...j-man didnt just TALK to minato about abilities, he helped and gave tips of what he could

MADARA TALKED...nothing more, nothing less.....you cant TALK out a lesson (like rinnegan abilities) without example...obito didnt even train with the rinnegan because THERE WAS NO RINNEGAN..i proved it already (this proves madara COULDNT watch obito train)

really? all madara did was SAY obito has senju and uchiha DNA, madara didnt say let me SHOW you how to control the gedo mazo with the uchiha/senju dna



ok....you laughed.............lol

 

[~Sovereign~]

Well, some people are missing the point of the thread and others are posting nonsense.

true

 

[Varrah]

you still dont get it lol

kakashi is talking and WATCHING.....naruto is training with the wind element, then kakshi just telling naruto more tips

this goes back to what i said about minato and j-man, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE CAN TALK (J-MAN) AND DOESNT HAVE AN ABILITY (MINATO's ABILITY), doesnt mean that j-man cant HELP

THE DIFFERENCE AGAIN: jiriaya was physically THERE to WATCH minato practice...j-man didnt just TALK to minato about abilities, he helped and gave tips of what he could

MADARA TALKED...nothing more, nothing less.....you cant TALK out a lesson (like rinnegan abilities) without example...obito didnt even train with the rinnegan because THERE WAS NO RINNEGAN..i proved it already (this proves madara COULDNT watch obito train)

really? all madara did was SAY obito has senju and uchiha DNA, madara didnt say let me SHOW you how to control the gedo mazo with the uchiha/senju dna



ok....you laughed.............lol

The application can still be performed without it being displayed.

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

It's 2:00 AM and I'm tired, I pretty much got more than expected and this thread doesn't needs to get anywhere further unless other people wanted to debate or whatever wasn't clear yet. In my case, I'm going to leave and a huge thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion.

 

[shogun973]

because obito there, he could be spamming meteors and wood dragons, and amateretsu right now
naruto also naruto has help
if not for ^ BODYBAG

 

[~Sovereign~]

The application can still be performed.

anything CAN be done

1. this is kishi's manga and anything will happen

2. i just proved that madara didnt have rinnegan to teach obito with

3. i just proved obito never had rinnegan until he fought konan

4. i just proved talking ALONE cant teach an ability

5. it doesnt matter what anyone says, kishi ill give madara and obito all rinnegan trchs IF he chooses to...and if not, then we will not see madara and obito use the abilities

6. the point was that i prove that kishi has plothole AND if madara and obito does have the abilities, it'll be because KISHI wants them to have...not because madara TALKED about it

7. i could go even deeper into the story (logically) and say "how did madara learn rinnegan techs???? madara was on his deathbed, so how did he get up and train with rinnegan WHILE connected to the gedo mazo??? madara couldnt even move....he slept all day"

 

[Sage mode Tobi]

madara might not have MASTERED all rinnegan abilities

kyuubi>=perfect susano

Naruto has already faired well against the rinnegan techs.Twice.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Naruto has already faired well against the rinnegan techs.Twice.

three times

nagato twice
and obito's 6 paths

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

NaruXSaku, such a bad loser, no sportsmanship whatsoever, admit defeat. Your statemet's which you proudly believe as facts have been proven as a false/ opinion since page 3, lol.

 

[~Sovereign~]

NaruXSaku, such a bad loser, no sportsmanship whatsoever, admit defeat. Your statemet's which you proudly believe as facts have been proven as a false/ opinion since page 3, lol.

what?? i wasnt proved wrong

your still here? i told you i was busy lol

you made like 20 post in this thread and NONE was about the thread

go to sleep or something lol

 

[koolsmooch]

well he has to deal with naruto kurama gai bee and hachi while obito was fooling around with kakashi u act like naruot is

doing all the work yet he has others helping if it was just him and kurama they both be toast by now nice crunchy

blackened toast with grape jelly and nice crispy bacon and eggs

dude it cant happen that way even if naruto and kurama war fighting obito and madara he wont get crunchy or whatever

 

[Varrah]

anything CAN be done

1. this is kishi's manga and anything will happen

2. i just proved that madara didnt have rinnegan to teach obito with

3. i just proved obito never had rinnegan until he fought konan

4. i just proved talking ALONE cant teach an ability

5. it doesnt matter what anyone says, kishi ill give madara and obito all rinnegan trchs IF he chooses to...and if not, then we will not see madara and obito use the abilities

6. the point was that i prove that kishi has plothole AND if madara and obito does have the abilities, it'll be because KISHI wants them to have...not because madara TALKED about it

7. i could go even deeper into the story (logically) and say "how did madara learn rinnegan techs???? madara was on his deathbed, so how did he get up and train with rinnegan WHILE connected to the gedo mazo??? madara couldnt even move....he slept all day"

Number four is incorrect.