When did I say Madara used all the Rinnegan abilities? He hasn't. If kishi allowed him to use them the fight would've been over. I never seen Madara admitted he failed.
Not to offend but I think that could be your own logic. Now I say this because your intial statement was how could Madara teach Obito Rinnegan Techniques without currently having the Rinnegan. What you were saying was implying that to teach someone a Jutsu you must have it in your own arsenal. I was disproving this. You saying that "by your logic: i guess J-man can use Flying Thunder God since Minato" has it revolves around your own logic.
didn't realize you were kishi, so tell me what is next chapter going to be about? I'll wait.. Madara hasn't Caught Naruto's arrogant ass dude to plot smartass, This is kishi's story not yours.
You misunderstand. What I am saying is that Jiraiya trained her to use her Origami skills as a weapon without using the Jutsu. No Konan did not possess Paper Jutsu until Jiraiya stepped in. She was skilled an Origami like any normal human could be with practice but I can not turn my Origami into Ninjutsu and that is what Jiraiya trained her to do. Neither of the 3 had knowledge on how to use Ninjutsu and they asked Jiraiya to teach them Ninjutsu. Flying Thunder God is a completely different case. Jiraiya did not teach Minato that Jutsu or how to obtain such a Jutsu that was Minato using Jiraiya's Jutsu to advance himself. What you claim my logic is, is exactly what my Statements and "Logic" is disproving. You misunderstand my comments.
I don't need to, for the author has already implied Madara's ocular powers some time ago. Furthermore; to the OP, what do you hope to gain by this type of thread? I'm curious.
The fact that Madara is showing through the manga that he's having trouble yet I have the feeling that there's missing something. Also not the mention Naruto's power going up to the roof. I may not have been showing it up lately in my latest posts but I actually think Madara > Naruto but the manga is starting to play some tricks. I'm just curious over Naruto's strength and Madara's attitude.
While this is an impressive feat the thread is referring to specifically Naruto himself giving Madara trouble in capturing Naruto when infact it is his comrades that is keeping him from capture. I could easily talk about how Naruto would have been capture without the help of his comrades chapters back but that would be irrevelent to Madara. Naruto has shown nothing towards Madara directly that should give people the impression Naruto is causing major problems for Madara. Considering Madara has only really attacked Naruto with the wood dragon which was released with the help of Guy. Naruto causing the Susanoo sword was a great feat but Madara was attacking Killer B.
And how do you know that? Like i've said the fight happened during a FB. We can't say for sure what Madara used or not, but what is sure is that he did used other Mokuton techniques than the wood dragon, since the battlefield was already completely changed with wood everywhere when we came back
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Also, what makes you believe Naruto also went all out? It's only after the FB that he intended to go all out:
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But during the FB, it's also highly possible that he did used Susanoo techniques since it's In-Character for him to use it to dodge Naruto's attacks
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Or to attack
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And like i've said, Naruto has shown to be able to deal with both Edo Madara and Obito
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Btw at that moment, he did escaped the wood dragon technique which was pumping his chakra with relativ ease
didn't realize you were kishi, so tell me what is next chapter going to be about? I'll wait.. Madara hasn't Caught Naruto's arrogant ass dude to plot smartass, This is kishi's story not yours.
People act like Naruto is a fodder compare to Madara, but when fact Naruto is the third or fourth strongest in the Manga so of course Madara will have trouble with him.
People act like Naruto is a fodder compare to Madara, but when fact Naruto is the third or fourth strongest in the Manga so of course Madara will have trouble with him.
None of this matters because Madara still can't beat Pre-crysis Superman. *Superman flies in grabs the Juubi and throws it into the sun with Obito and Madara*
And how do you know that? Like i've said the fight happened during a FB. We can't say for sure what Madara used or not, but what is sure is that he did used other Mokuton techniques than the wood dragon, since the battlefield was already completely changed with wood everywhere when we came back
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Also, what makes you believe Naruto also went all out? It's only after the FB that he intended to go all out:
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But during the FB, it's also highly possible that he did used Susanoo techniques since it's In-Character for him to use it to dodge Naruto's attacks
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Or to attack
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And like i've said, Naruto has shown to be able to deal with both Edo Madara and Obito
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Btw at that moment, he did escaped the wood dragon technique which was pumping his chakra with relativ ease
The Post had great effort and organization but sadly non of what you posed was Madara attacking Naruto. To say that because their was wood all over the battlefield that Madara must have attack is not reliable considering the fact that Madara could have very used these attacks on Naruto's Comrades or simply used the Wood Release for defense. Since we have no evidence of Madara attacking Naruto any other time we can not say that he has. While Escaping the Wood Dragon is a amazing feat destroying would be a better one and seeing as Gai weaken the Mokuton by attacking Madara allowing Killer B to free himself is a greater feat than escaping. You also have to take into though that Naruto having shadow clones unlike Killer B does not have to be a Giant beast being restricted.
I turned you against yourself, Your arguments contradict. First your saying that for a training lesson you can not use words, that since Madara did not have his Rinnegan he could not teach Rinnegan Techniques but now your saying that Kakashi was able to teach Naruto to use his Wind without possessing Wind which is in favor of my argument. You defeated Yourself.
I turned you against yourself, Your arguments contradict. First your saying that for a training lesson you can not use words, that since Madara did not have his Rinnegan he could not teach Rinnegan Techniques but now your saying that Kakashi was able to teach Naruto to use his Wind without possessing Wind which is in favor of my argument. You defeated Yourself.
The fact that Madara is showing through the manga that he's having trouble yet I have the feeling that there's missing something. Also not the mention Naruto's power going up to the roof. I may not have been showing it up lately in my latest posts but I actually think Madara > Naruto but the manga is starting to play some tricks. I'm just curious over Naruto's strength and Madara's attitude.
Adhering the current actions in the story, the only answer that can be given is plot —which is something I hate to use.
Madara’s previous performance have shown only a portion of his power, but based on it, we know what he is capable of utilizing. This brings us into another question, which is similar to the one I asked you before, why has Madara not exercised everything he has displayed thus far?