Madara hate Hashirama?

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We all know that Madara hate Hashirama, but why?

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despite it was Tobirama who did the finishing blow to Izuna.
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Was it rival that Madara seek, wanted to surpass Hashirama?

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Madara is butthurt he never beat hashirama. He devised a plan that meant he needed to steal all of hashirama's powers in order to surpass him.
 

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He hates Tobirama only
 

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I don't think he holds a grudge on Tobirama for killing Izuna although he did say to Hashirama, that he should have killed Tobirama. Madara looks like he has forgotten Izuna for very long time to the point where he holds no grudge. He probably hates Hashirama because he became Hokage and he didn't.
 

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Madara wants to surpass Hashirama , but he said" till he accomplish his Dream ,he will enjoy fighting Hashirama", so I don't think Madara hates Hashi,, but Its obviously that Madara hates Tobirama .... and it will be awesome to see a combat between these too .. Tobirama is very convinced that he can kill Madara :eww:
 

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I don't think he holds a grudge on Tobirama for killing Izuna although he did say to Hashirama, that he should have killed Tobirama. Madara looks like he has forgotten Izuna for very long time to the point where he holds no grudge. He probably hates Hashirama because he became Hokage and he didn't.

No madara is butthurt he couldn't beat hashirama.

reason why he preached "There is only winners in this world." to obito.

:coffee:
 

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He's a burthurt uchiha; he has to hate someone.
 

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Madara is butthurt he never beat hashirama. He devised a plan that meant he needed to steal all of hashirama's powers in order to surpass him.

Indeed that was i was thinking about. He never really cared about Tobirama, and if it was written in the uchiha tablet how to unlock rinnegan then he wanted to steal/get hashirama's power.

If we compare sasuke with Madara, sasuke still care about his brother will and what he fought for, and also went after Danzo who was behind it.
 

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No madara is butthurt he couldn't beat hashirama.

reason why he preached "There is only winners in this world." to obito.

:coffee:

V2, chill :coffee:

He wanted to maintain the pride of his clan and fallen brother by becoming Hokage, however lost elections and his clan was cornered.​
 

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No madara is butthurt he couldn't beat hashirama.

reason why he preached "There is only winners in this world." to obito.

:coffee:

Still flawz and remaining the fodder you have always been. Butthurt because Obito didn't become villain?xd
 

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V2, chill :coffee:

He wanted to maintain the pride of his clan and fallen brother by becoming Hokage, however lost elections and his clan was cornered.​

There's more to madara's turn to the dark side but a big part of it was how hashirama was always above him.

Madara lost to hashirama in every fight
Madara lost to hashirama for the hokage spot
Madara lost his clan's respect to hashirama

hashirama bested madara in everything, Thats why he devised a plan to steal hashirama's powers and put the world to sleep in a super genjutsu so he can be the one to control everything.

 

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Madara did not ever want to become Hokage. So no hate there....

I don't think he hates Hashirama at all.....I think he was bitter at a time from losing to him. Though....Madara seems the type to accept things. Even as a child he accepted Hashirama as stronger....they're really good friends deep down I believe. They were just dealt bad hands concerning each other imo. As far as the way their lives went. They both really admire each other, and both have an immense amount of respect for each other. I don't think he hates him....I feel he feels a certain amount of disgust for Hashirama I believe. At times though...not all the time. Due to Hashirama being so overly friendly.....emotional, etc.
 

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Madara doesn't hate Hashirama, he said that he was the only person he respects
 

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I don't think he holds a grudge on Tobirama for killing Izuna although he did say to Hashirama, that he should have killed Tobirama. Madara looks like he has forgotten Izuna for very long time to the point where he holds no grudge. He probably hates Hashirama because he became Hokage and he didn't.

No he hates Hashi becos he's a fodder compare to Hashirama
 

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Same reason Danzo "hated" Hiruzen

Same reason Sasuke "hated" Naruto

Same reason Orochimaru "hated" Jiraiya

Because they feel inferior to their opponent. No matter what Madara has tried in the past, Hashirama was been able to come out on top.

- gets the EMS = Hashirama beats him

- Gets the Kyuubi = Hashirama beats him

- Gets Edo tensei powers = Hashirama beats him
 

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Where has it ever said Madara hates Hashirama? He respects him above all. What Madara opposes against Hashirama is his view points. Madara does what he does because he has a different view point of peace than Hashirama but he has never showed bitter hatred towards him.
 

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I think he hates senjus as whole not just Hashirama..He called Tsunade an ugly
 

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Madara's feelings for him is weird..
 
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