Madara has SM still?

[AGoodBoy]

Sure its pointless, because you think so. But for the argument its completely relevant, because it doesn't support your opinion.

Madara doesn't just have a large beast in him.. He is using its chakra for the cloak/for the orbs/for the staff, all made of Natural energy. He doesn't need to gather natural energy.

Understand what SM is before trying to argue mate. Instead of then trying to make excuses to justify yourself, when it makes no sense.



The Juubi's jinchuriki uses natural energy lol. For SM the requirement is 1/3 to balance it out so your body won't be taken over by it. However, with being the jinchuriki you yourself are natural energy in a way i guess.

Just like how Naruto is basically Kurama's chakra when he is in BM.



Basically. Hence why saying he is jinchuriki + SM is quite dumb.

Is the natural energy balanced with his internal chakra? No.
So just stop talking now. He's obviously not in SM.

A juubi jin already mixes his chakra with juubi so its makes it SM. However its stronger SM cuz proportion of nature energy is too overboard unlike in normal SM.

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[KingHashirama]

Is the natural energy balanced with his internal chakra? No.
So just stop talking now. He's obviously not in SM.

@Bold, that is what I have been saying the entire thread.... holy sh*t.

And what is the point of mixing it when you can control the whole thing?

 

[Tera Path]

It has to be 1/3 of your natural reserves, not the bijuu's. Being a jin is completely irrelevant because your body can still only

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from a beast at a time. He'd balance off whatever he has in him with natural energy to get a massive power bump. Power bump + power bump = big power bump.


How are people not grasping the concept that it's still just juubi with the natural energy. It's not balanced with madara's chakra yet so he's not getting an SM boost from juubi, just a jin boost.

Well the Juubi is Natural Energy so that's pretty much what i meant.
Unlike the other Bijuus which have their own regular unique chakra trait the Juubi is made completely out of Natural Energy.

So basically i meant, use the Juubis Nature Energy/Chakra to enter a state of Sage Mode.

 

[AGoodBoy]

@Bold, that is what I have been saying the entire thread.... holy sh*t.

And what is the point of mixing it when you can control the whole thing?

I'm talking about SM in regards to the juubi. Like wow... Obviously I'm not talking about his other SM.

When you can control the whole thing...? What...? He's just drawing on power from the juubi. which would most likely resemble

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. All he's getting is the power boost you get from pulling a beasts chakra. The juubi obviously has chakra seeing as it could suck it out of people; That chakra didn't just vaniash into thin air. Even

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He can still get the massive power bump which comes with boosting your own internal chakra -> Increased sensing, reflexes, strength, etc.

Well the Juubi is Natural Energy so that's pretty much what i meant.
Unlike the other Bijuus which have their own regular unique chakra trait the Juubi is made completely out of Natural Energy.

So basically i meant, use the Juubis Nature Energy/Chakra to enter a state of Sage Mode.

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Madara would still need to balance that which is not even easy. Even assuming obito easily balanced that much Senjutsu at once (when the juubi already overwhelmed him at first), without petrifying, is absurd. Clearly they're not pulling pure nature energy or else juubito wouldn't be weak to senjutsu. Never in the manga has a sage user been weak to sage... mode...

 

[AlphaScythian]

Is the natural energy balanced with his internal chakra? No.
So just stop talking now. He's obviously not in SM.
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Scan for what? That all jins use bijuu power? Really?

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Is this one good enough?

 

[KingHashirama]

I'm talking about SM in regards to the juubi. Like wow... Obviously I'm not talking about his other SM.

When you can control the whole thing...? What...? He's just drawing on power from the juubi. which would most likely resemble

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. All he's getting is the power boost you get from pulling a beasts chakra. The juubi obviously has chakra seeing as it could suck it out of people; That chakra didn't just vaniash into thin air. Even

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He can still get the massive power bump which comes with boosting your own internal chakra -> Increased sensing, reflexes, strength, etc.

He is a perfect jinchuriki, he can control the juubi in anyway he wants.. Obito already did it. Are you going to deny that?

And yes his fodder chakra is gonna really give a powerup to the infinite chakra of the juubi. yes yes i agree. ^_^

 

[Tera Path]

I'm talking about SM in regards to the juubi. Like wow... Obviously I'm not talking about his other SM.

When you can control the whole thing...? What...? He's just drawing on power from the juubi. which would most likely resemble

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. All he's getting is the power boost you get from pulling a beasts chakra. The juubi obviously has chakra seeing as it could suck it out of people; That chakra didn't just vaniash into thin air. Even

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He can still get the massive power bump which comes with boosting your own internal chakra -> Increased sensing, reflexes, strength, etc.



Read above.
Madara would still need to balance that which is not even easy. Even assuming obito easily balanced that much Senjutsu at once (when the juubi already overwhelmed him at first), without petrifying, is absurd. Clearly they're not pulling pure nature energy or else juubito wouldn't be weak to senjutsu. Never in the manga has a sage user been weak to sage... mode...

I pretty much also stated that Madara would need to balance it........

The Nature Energy needs to be 1/3 of your entire chakra, to balance it out with your Spiritual and your Physical chakra, or atleast i think that that's the 2, honestly i am not sure.

So Sage Mode wouldn't really be possible, unless you abandon logic (which Kishi already did) or you somehow manage to filter or portion to Juubi's chakra to fit yours.
Unless you ofcourse have more chakra than the Juubi (which is not happening) then that is the only logical way i can think of maintaining a Sage Mode.

I already said that he would have to do that, but still restraining the Juubi is probably already going to take allot of your own chakra, which is going to mean that Madara is going to have to portion out the chakra he is taking from the Juubi if he wishes to go into SM, if that is in fact even possible.

It's entirely up to Kishimoto to decide what he wants to do, if Madara is able to take a little or allot, or can't even decide how much to take.


Or maybe, he can just use a steady flow of it's chakra to maintain SM, kind of like Kabuto did, only Kabuto actually relied on gathering it from outside, rather than gathering it from a beast that's sealed within him.