Madara has SM still?

[KingHashirama]

People are saying Madara has SM right now.. but that is stupid..... Why would he still have SM, when the Juubi itself is natural energy...

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[Flawž]

Probably. I wonder how much he sucked off of hashirama? A gallon full? Lol

 

[The Necromancer]

That's my thinking. If the Juubi is weak to Senjutsu and doesn't grant the Jinchuriki SM, then having SM previously shouldn't work.

 

[KingHashirama]

That's my thinking. If the Juubi is weak to Senjutsu and doesn't grant the Jinchuriki SM, then having SM previously shouldn't work.

But the thing is its not weak to Senjutsu aka natural energy. Its just that the only way to hit Natural energy aka Juubi and hurt it is , by using Natural energy against it.

All SM does is gathers natural energy and so you can use it. Juubi itself is made from Natural energy, meaning you are a SAGE, in rikudou's case, Sage of the 6 Paths.

 

[Fair Warning]

He doesn't even need it anyways IMO

 

[Punk Hazard]

That's my thinking. If the Juubi is weak to Senjutsu and doesn't grant the Jinchuriki SM, then having SM previously shouldn't work.

I don't think the form not giving something means it will also take that thing away.

@OP: So, because Madara just became something full of the fuel source for Sage Mode, he can longer use Sage Mode? Gotcha.

 

[KingHashirama]

I don't think the form not giving something means it will also take that thing away.

@OP: So, because Madara just became something full of the fuel source for Sage Mode, he can longer use Sage Mode? Gotcha.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF SM THEN? rofl.... SM is simply natural energy gathered up inside you, amplifying your strength. Madara has a whole beast of natural energy inside of him. There is no need for SM. And we don't even know he still has it from Hashirama.. if he lost that Hashirama head, then of course he can't go into SM.

Juubi's jinchuriki = SM... lol.

Probably. I wonder how much he sucked off of hashirama? A gallon full? Lol

Ha, there was barely any to suck on AAHAHAH V_V

 

[AlphaScythian]

My guess is no. It makes no sense for him to have SM as its mix of own and nature energies which is juubi jin but on new level.

 

[AGoodBoy]

People saying naruto has SM. But that's stupid when the kyuubi is made from juubi which is natural energy.

:|

 

[KingHashirama]

People saying naruto has SM. But that's stupid when the kyuubi is made from juubi which is natural energy.

:|

Only problem is Kyuubi isn't natural energy. It being made from natural energy doesn't = it is natural energy.

All tailed beasts have different chakras..

 

[Sendai Aka No Ou]

Naruto has a Jinchuriki sage mode. Madara can't?

 

[AGoodBoy]

Only problem is Kyuubi isn't natural energy. It being made from natural energy doesn't = it is natural energy.

All tailed beasts have different chakras..

That why kyuubi can sit and gather more energy?
Anyway. The juubi being natural energy is completely pointless. Madara just has a large beast in him that's housing natural energy. It still doesn't fill the purpose of sage mode which is this.Sage mode will work with juubi. At best, he'd just be gathering natural energy from juubi while simultaneously using it's chakra boosts. Basically, It'd be Juubi's power + his own power but now boosted by a mix of Sage mode.

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[Tera Path]

WHAT IS THE POINT OF SM THEN? rofl.... SM is simply natural energy gathered up inside you, amplifying your strength. Madara has a whole beast of natural energy inside of him. There is no need for SM. And we don't even know he still has it from Hashirama.. if he lost that Hashirama head, then of course he can't go into SM.

Juubi's jinchuriki = SM... lol.



Ha, there was barely any to suck on AAHAHAH V_V

The Nature Energy needs to be 1/3 of your entire chakra, to balance it out with your Spiritual and your Physical chakra, or atleast i think that that's the 2, honestly i am not sure.

So Sage Mode wouldn't really be possible, unless you abandon logic (which Kishi already did) or you somehow manage to filter or portion to Juubi's chakra to fit yours.
Unless you ofcourse have more chakra than the Juubi (which is not happening) then that is the only logical way i can think of maintaining a Sage Mode.

 

[KingHashirama]

Naruto has a Jinchuriki sage mode. Madara can't?

-sigh-, yes because 9-tails is made of Natural energy right?

 

[Punk Hazard]

WHAT IS THE POINT OF SM THEN? rofl.... SM is simply natural energy gathered up inside you, amplifying your strength. Madara has a whole beast of natural energy inside of him. There is no need for SM. And we don't even know he still has it from Hashirama.. if he lost that Hashirama head, then of course he can't go into SM.

Juubi's jinchuriki = SM... lol.



Ha, there was barely any to suck on AAHAHAH V_V

If Sage Mode is just using Nature Energy to boost yourself and your attacks, and what Madara is filled with Nature Energy right now, isn't he basically in a super Sage Mode?

 

[Punk Hazard]

WHAT IS THE POINT OF SM THEN? rofl.... SM is simply natural energy gathered up inside you, amplifying your strength. Madara has a whole beast of natural energy inside of him. There is no need for SM. And we don't even know he still has it from Hashirama.. if he lost that Hashirama head, then of course he can't go into SM.

Juubi's jinchuriki = SM... lol.



Ha, there was barely any to suck on AAHAHAH V_V

If Sage Mode is just using Nature Energy to boost yourself and your attacks, and what Madara is filled with Nature Energy right now, isn't he basically in a super Sage Mode?

 

[Sendai Aka No Ou]

-sigh-, yes because 9-tails is made of Natural energy right?

Requiring a reason as to why that's relevant.

 

[AGoodBoy]

The Nature Energy needs to be 1/3 of your entire chakra, to balance it out with your Spiritual and your Physical chakra, or atleast i think that that's the 2, honestly i am not sure.

So Sage Mode wouldn't really be possible, unless you abandon logic (which Kishi already did) or you somehow manage to filter or portion to Juubi's chakra to fit yours.
Unless you ofcourse have more chakra than the Juubi (which is not happening) then that is the only logical way i can think of maintaining a Sage Mode.

It has to be 1/3 of your natural reserves, not the bijuu's. Being a jin is completely irrelevant because your body can still only

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from a beast at a time. He'd balance off whatever he has in him with natural energy to get a massive power bump. Power bump + power bump = big power bump.

If Sage Mode is just using Nature Energy to boost yourself and your attacks, and what Madara is filled with Nature Energy right now, isn't he basically in a super Sage Mode?

How are people not grasping the concept that it's still just juubi with the natural energy. It's not balanced with madara's chakra yet so he's not getting an SM boost from juubi, just a jin boost.

 

[KingHashirama]

That why kyuubi can sit and gather more energy?
Anyway. The juubi being natural energy is completely pointless. Madara just has a large beast in him that's housing natural energy. It still doesn't fill the purpose of sage mode which is this.Sage mode will work with juubi. At best, he'd just be gathering natural energy from juubi while simultaneously using it's chakra boosts. Basically. It'd be Juubi's power, + his own power boosted but now boosted by a mix of Sage mode.

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Sure its pointless, because you think so. But for the argument its completely relevant, because it doesn't support your opinion.

Madara doesn't just have a large beast in him.. He is using its chakra for the cloak/for the orbs/for the staff, all made of Natural energy. He doesn't need to gather natural energy.

Understand what SM is before trying to argue mate. Instead of then trying to make excuses to justify yourself, when it makes no sense.

The Nature Energy needs to be 1/3 of your entire chakra, to balance it out with your Spiritual and your Physical chakra, or atleast i think that that's the 2, honestly i am not sure.

So Sage Mode wouldn't really be possible, unless you abandon logic (which Kishi already did) or you somehow manage to filter or portion to Juubi's chakra to fit yours.
Unless you ofcourse have more chakra than the Juubi (which is not happening) then that is the only logical way i can think of maintaining a Sage Mode.

The Juubi's jinchuriki uses natural energy lol. For SM the requirement is 1/3 to balance it out so your body won't be taken over by it. However, with being the jinchuriki you yourself are natural energy in a way i guess.

Just like how Naruto is basically Kurama's chakra when he is in BM.

If Sage Mode is just using Nature Energy to boost yourself and your attacks, and what Madara is filled with Nature Energy right now, isn't he basically in a super Sage Mode?

Basically. Hence why saying he is jinchuriki + SM is quite dumb. But isn't there a limit to how much Natural energy amplifies your attacks and senses by?

Requiring a reason as to why that's relevant.

Because the juubi is natural energy... Sm is natural energy...

 

[AlphaScythian]

That why kyuubi can sit and gather more energy?
Anyway. The juubi being natural energy is completely pointless. Madara just has a large beast in him that's housing natural energy. It still doesn't fill the purpose of sage mode which is this.Sage mode will work with juubi. At best, he'd just be gathering natural energy from juubi while simultaneously using it's chakra boosts. Basically, It'd be Juubi's power + his own power but now boosted by a mix of Sage mode.

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A juubi jin already mixes his chakra with juubi so its makes it SM. However its stronger SM cuz proportion of nature energy is too overboard unlike in normal SM.