Madara fanboys and Kishimoto interview !!!!!!!!!

[TheSages456]

How much of fail are you actually. The Rikudo Sennin cannot be compared to anyone in the series, he was a monk living in a time before Ninjas have exist, he created and followed his Religion from where Ninjutsu was created. He is out of any discussion. That Madara hasn't any weakness doesn't mean that the sage has. The sage has also no weakness but has powers which are still above Madaras power level. Hashirama fought the EMS in a fight to death, this was a fight of two equals which could kill each other. And now this guy wants to tell me that Madara, after gaining the Rinnegan, Hashiramas Mokuton, immortality and limitless chakra, is still inferior to Hashirama. This has nothing to do with the perfect Susanoo only, Hashirama didn't face onlythe perfect Susanoo, he faced much more, he faced all abilities of Madara, the complete EMS, Katon-Techniques and more, this was Madaras full power and not only one perfect Susanoo. He had to face the EMS and fought it in a fight to death. Now he has not only to face the EMS, he has to face the powers of the Rinnegan on top of that, means he has to put much more effort in order to counter multiple, powerful techniques that the Rinnegan has to offer. For example using a Chou Shinra Tensei in order to crush Hashiramas tree world and using the perfect Susanoo right after. He can counter Hashiramas wood techniques with wood techniques, Madara can also cover the landscape with a forest, use the wood Dragon and multiple wood clones he can combine with Susanoo.

Who says that Madara didn't loose because of his chakra exhaustion? Maybe Madara could keep his perfect Susanoo up for only a few minutes, especially after using exhausting techniques before? Now, with unlimited Chakra Madara can just spam techniques, he can put his whole energy in a Chou Shinra Tensei that is bigger than Nagatos by far, in order to reduce Hashiramas biggest tree world into dust. Due to the unlimited Chakra he could send out multiple wood clones with Susanoo against Hashirama or use the perfect Susanoo in order to go on rampage, without a time limit where he could get exhausted. At any time of the battle he could dissolve it in order to use the next Chou Shinra Tensei, use Chibaku Tensei or throw a few meteors from the heavens, before using the perfect Susanoo without any chakra loss again. Not to mention that Madara will regenerate himself after all attacks Hashirama has to offer, even if he gets reduced to dust. He spammed meteorites in his fight, covered the landscape with a tree world, used 25 clones with Susanoo (though someone like Itachi and Sasuke are reaching their limit after using one Susanoo for too long) and put out the perfect Susanoo in the end, without getting tired. As if Madara had such a stamina in his lifetime.

How mad are these Hashirama fanboys to compare him to the current Madara, who is truly closest to the sage of the six paths.

These two Hashirama fanboys are just talking the piss when saying, that Edo Madaras full power is the same as EMS Madaras, Edo Madara is god level. His repertoire of powers is more powerful by far, he is combining the most powerful abilities we have seen in the series so far, the EMS, the Doujutsu of the sage of the six paths and the Kekkei Kenkai of Hashirama Senju, connected with limitless Chakra. Who can be compared with this.

Strict, you went off on a tangent and wrote a wall of text that you already knew was full of BS.

1. madara has not shown that he can use rinnegan techs and mokuton while in perfect susano.

2. madara effortlessly obliterating the meteor and his mokuton just shows how much of a joke his current powers are compared to him and hashiramas full power.

3. madara using his new weaker powers to try and kill full power hashirama would be the the equivalent of bringing a normal grenade to fight against atomic bombs in a war.

4. madara has never shown the use of all the rinnegan techs.

5. edo madaras perfect susano which is his full power=ems madaras perfect susano which is his full power.

6. nobody is mad trying to compare hashirama to edo madara because madaras rikudo and senju power are complete crap compared to his uchiha power which hashiramas full power eclipses.

7. living madara was never equal to hashirama as he has been stated many times to be weaker than hashirama. hashirama is straight up better than madara. madara has no attack thats stronger than perfect susano so he is just as behind hashirama as he was years ago.

 

[OnPoint]

Strict, you went off on a tangent and wrote a wall of text that you already knew was full of BS.

1. madara has not shown that he can use rinnegan techs and mokuton while in perfect susano.

2. madara effortlessly obliterating the meteor and his mokuton just shows how much of a joke his current powers are compared to him and hashiramas full power.

3. madara using his new weaker powers to try and kill full power hashirama would be the the equivalent of bringing a normal grenade to fight against atomic bombs in a war.

4. madara has never shown the use of all the rinnegan techs.

5. edo madaras perfect susano which is his full power=ems madaras perfect susano which is his full power.

6. nobody is mad trying to compare hashirama to edo madara because madaras rikudo and senju power are complete crap compared to his uchiha power which hashiramas full power eclipses.

7. living madara was never equal to hashirama as he has been stated many times to be weaker than hashirama. hashirama is straight up better than madara. madara has no attack thats stronger than perfect susano so he is just as behind hashirama as he was years ago.

How foolish are your posts though? Edo Madara will have whatever Hashirama's full power is. He said Perfect Susano'o was Uchiha Madara's full power, not the full power in his entire Edo arsenal (if we're acting under the premise that Hashirama used something to overpower Perfect Susano'o, because it's possible that he may've just suppressed the chakra). When using Mokuton, he has never acknowledged that power being innately his own, nor has it been implied [

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]. The fact of the matter is, Madara's ocular powers allow him to copy anything which Shodai used against him - this is possible because he now possesses his very Kekkei Genkai. Suggesting that Hashirama's full power will always be > Madara's is stupid because Edo Madara has that 'full power' (whatever it may be). There's no point asking for feats because Hashirama hasn't yet shown the ability which allowed him to overcome Perfect Susano'o. Edo Madara can replicate whatever Hashirama did against him, along with all of his EMS techniques and the Rinnegan paths. He's also supported by an unlimited chakra supply and immortal body, so no, Hashirama isn't stronger than him nor is he the favourite to defeat him if they were to ever fight again. Hashirama > EMS Madara is canon. Edo Madara > Hashirama is common sense. He's not chance-less, as Madara already stated, but the first Hokage's only chance is to use what he knows about Madara's fighting style and hope to seal him.

 

[Six Paths]

madara fan logic: madara has surpassed so6p! madara has mokuton and perfect susanoo and rinnegan! so6p has only rinnegan
Madara has surpassed SO6P?!!!! youre making joke, yah?

the sage of six paths created a moon when he was on his deathbed he created every jutsu he battled with the strongest creature on narutoverse and seperated the chakra of that creature and while dying so SO6P>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other ninja in narutoverse

 

[Strict]

Madara taught Obito the techniques of the six paths, so of course he can. Madara anyway intended to awake the Rinnegan by implanting Hashiramas cells, so of course he should have knowledge about the Rinnegan and all of its powers. The perfect Susanoo isn't Madaras full power but the whole EMS. This guy wants to tell me that perfect Susanoo + limitless Chakra = Perfect Susanoo + unlimited Chakra + Shodaimes own Kekkei Kenkai and the eyes of the sage of the six paths. The Sharingan copied all of Hashiramas techniques and thus he was able to use such large scaled Mokuton techniques without effort. During Madara may got tired after using the perfect Susanoo in his lifetime, he can now spamm meteorites, use 30 clones with Susanoo and go on rampage with the perfect Susanoo.

If you say that Hashirama is still superior, you should bring up facts that make Shodaime superior to the EMS, Rinnegan and his own Kekkei Kenkai on a large scale combined. MS Madara fought many fights against Hashirama and it was said that latter fought the EMS in a fight to death. As if Hashirama wouldn't have any problems in countering his own Kekkei Kenkai and the Rinnegan on Top of the EMS. It appears you just are just trolling.

 

[AngryRock]

Madara fanboy's defense to everything against Madara is, "Kishimoto said that Madara is the strongest character and has no weakness" ......

I hope you Madara fanboys realize, by agreeing with that statement, your automatically declaring : Madara > SO6P.

1. I don't even trust the website with the interview.
2. Author's opinions are expressed in the story.
3. Kishimoto in a "interview" (Which i don't trust either). Declared that Sarutobi and minato were the strongest Dead ninjas ;x meaning stronger then the Sage , Hashirama, Madara O-o


Trying to defend with a interview is pretty stupid..

SO6P has no feats and we have never seen him battle thus it is all speculation on his power. You have nothing to back you up with SO6P being the strongest. You just think because he is SO6P he must be the most powerful.

 

[orochimaru]

i totally agree with you, and one website actually posted an interview saying that the masked man is Izuna! and believe me people will disagree for no good reasons cuz they are like them,they just Love to spread rumors.

 

[LegendaryAce]

SO6P has no feats and we have never seen him battle thus it is all speculation on his power. You have nothing to back you up with SO6P being the strongest. You just think because he is SO6P he must be the most powerful.

Listen to your self - Naruto has half of kurama and he is as strong as hell

So6p has the juubi the strongest by far
Also has the original rinnegan
Has both body and eyes
He has all the elements
Creation of all
Can basically Create anything he thinks
Tbh I don't need to say anymore he created the f**ken moon on his deathbed with chibaku tensei

 

[KidGamer65]

SO6P has no feats and we have never seen him battle thus it is all speculation on his power. You have nothing to back you up with SO6P being the strongest. You just think because he is SO6P he must be the most powerful.

Are you reading the same manga as we are? He created the Moon, was the Jinchuuriki of the Juubi who is Bijuu 1-9 combined.

He made the moon on his deathbed.

That's all we need to know to determine that the Sage is far stronger than any other character in the manga.

 

[TheSages456]

How foolish are your posts though? Edo Madara will have whatever Hashirama's full power is. He said Perfect Susano'o was Uchiha Madara's full power, not the full power in his entire Edo arsenal (if we're acting under the premise that Hashirama used something to overpower Perfect Susano'o, because it's possible that he may've just suppressed the chakra). When using Mokuton, he has never acknowledged that power being innately his own, nor has it been implied [

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]. The fact of the matter is, Madara's ocular powers allow him to copy anything which Shodai used against him - this is possible because he now possesses his very Kekkei Genkai. Suggesting that Hashirama's full power will always be > Madara's is stupid because Edo Madara has that 'full power' (whatever it may be). There's no point asking for feats because Hashirama hasn't yet shown the ability which allowed him to overcome Perfect Susano'o. Edo Madara can replicate whatever Hashirama did against him, along with all of his EMS techniques and the Rinnegan paths. He's also supported by an unlimited chakra supply and immortal body, so no, Hashirama isn't stronger than him nor is he the favourite to defeat him if they were to ever fight again. Hashirama > EMS Madara is canon. Edo Madara > Hashirama is common sense. He's not chance-less, as Madara already stated, but the first Hokage's only chance is to use what he knows about Madara's fighting style and hope to seal him.

if madara by some chance has hashiramas full power then he may be stronger only maybe as he wouldnt be able to use that and PS at the same time but as of now madara has not shown a tech that can kill hashirama. madara didnt say anything about hashirama having a chance. he meant hashirama could straight up beat him.

Madara taught Obito the techniques of the six paths, so of course he can. Madara anyway intended to awake the Rinnegan by implanting Hashiramas cells, so of course he should have knowledge about the Rinnegan and all of its powers. The perfect Susanoo isn't Madaras full power but the whole EMS. This guy wants to tell me that perfect Susanoo + limitless Chakra = Perfect Susanoo + unlimited Chakra + Shodaimes own Kekkei Kenkai and the eyes of the sage of the six paths. The Sharingan copied all of Hashiramas techniques and thus he was able to use such large scaled Mokuton techniques without effort. During Madara may got tired after using the perfect Susanoo in his lifetime, he can now spamm meteorites, use 30 clones with Susanoo and go on rampage with the perfect Susanoo.

If you say that Hashirama is still superior, you should bring up facts that make Shodaime superior to the EMS, Rinnegan and his own Kekkei Kenkai on a large scale combined. MS Madara fought many fights against Hashirama and it was said that latter fought the EMS in a fight to death. As if Hashirama wouldn't have any problems in countering his own Kekkei Kenkai and the Rinnegan on Top of the EMS. It appears you just are just trolling.

obito hasnt used any rinnegan jutsu except gedo and the six paths tech which is the pain rikudo. madara hasnt shown every rinnegan tech so he doesnt have it. it was already implied that the rinnegan had to be mastered to bring out its full power. you arent a pro the second you activate it.

prove that madara can use every other tech in his arsenal in conjunction with perfect susano or your argument is just pure fanfiction. saying that madara is using mokuton 1000 ft above the ground is unrealistic and unreasonable on your part and you have no proof that he can do this.
i really have nothing to say to you if you think that madaras new techs can keep up in a match where mountains are being obliterated with each move. madaras new techs are shown to be so below his and hashiramas full power that they cant even survive and compete with 1 PS slash.

you are a complete moron if you think that madara can use all his techs at once since he has never fought that way in kishis manga and he has never implied that he can do this.
madara cant spam meteorites as there are hardly any credible meteors in the atmosphere to bring down 99% of the time.

madara cant use all his techs at the same time. it isnt hard to understand. madara hasnt done any of the things you are saying that he would do. hashirama would have to counter the techs 1 at a time or he could just use his full power and obliterate madaras new techs in 1 move which would force madara to resort to PS and its canon what happens from there.

 

[Maiora]

I am completly agree with you TheSages456!

Madara has now a few new powerups. But the perfect Susanoo is still his strongest technique. perfect Susanoo >>>> Madaras current new powers. Hashirama > perfect Susanoo with also map changing techniques and therefore hashirama > edo madara because hashirama > perfect susanoo and perfect susanoo > madaras new powers.

 

[shelke]

How much of fail are you actually. The Rikudo Sennin cannot be compared to anyone in the series, he was a monk living in a time before Ninjas have exist, he created and followed his Religion from where Ninjutsu was created. He is out of any discussion. That Madara hasn't any weakness doesn't mean that the sage has. The sage has also no weakness but has powers which are still above Madaras power level. Hashirama fought the EMS in a fight to death, this was a fight of two equals which could kill each other. And now this guy wants to tell me that Madara, after gaining the Rinnegan, Hashiramas Mokuton, immortality and limitless chakra, is still inferior to Hashirama. This has nothing to do with the perfect Susanoo only, Hashirama didn't face onlythe perfect Susanoo, he faced much more, he faced all abilities of Madara, the complete EMS, Katon-Techniques and more, this was Madaras full power and not only one perfect Susanoo. He had to face the EMS and fought it in a fight to death. Now he has not only to face the EMS, he has to face the powers of the Rinnegan on top of that, means he has to put much more effort in order to counter multiple, powerful techniques that the Rinnegan has to offer. For example using a Chou Shinra Tensei in order to crush Hashiramas tree world and using the perfect Susanoo right after. He can counter Hashiramas wood techniques with wood techniques, Madara can also cover the landscape with a forest, use the wood Dragon and multiple wood clones he can combine with Susanoo.

Who says that Madara didn't loose because of his chakra exhaustion? Maybe Madara could keep his perfect Susanoo up for only a few minutes, especially after using exhausting techniques before? Now, with unlimited Chakra Madara can just spam techniques, he can put his whole energy in a Chou Shinra Tensei that is bigger than Nagatos by far, in order to reduce Hashiramas biggest tree world into dust. Due to the unlimited Chakra he could send out multiple wood clones with Susanoo against Hashirama or use the perfect Susanoo in order to go on rampage, without a time limit where he could get exhausted. At any time of the battle he could dissolve it in order to use the next Chou Shinra Tensei, use Chibaku Tensei or throw a few meteors from the heavens, before using the perfect Susanoo without any chakra loss again. Not to mention that Madara will regenerate himself after all attacks Hashirama has to offer, even if he gets reduced to dust. He spammed meteorites in his fight, covered the landscape with a tree world, used 25 clones with Susanoo (though someone like Itachi and Sasuke are reaching their limit after using one Susanoo for too long) and put out the perfect Susanoo in the end, without getting tired. As if Madara had such a stamina in his lifetime.

How mad are these Hashirama fanboys to compare him to the current Madara, who is truly closest to the sage of the six paths.

These two Hashirama fanboys are just talking the piss when saying, that Edo Madaras full power is the same as EMS Madaras, Edo Madara is god level. His repertoire of powers is more powerful by far, he is combining the most powerful abilities we have seen in the series so far, the EMS, the Doujutsu of the sage of the six paths and the Kekkei Kenkai of Hashirama Senju, connected with limitless Chakra. Who can be compared with this.

Great post as usual strict. Wanted to add a few things. Going by Madara's logic in bringing out PS, we can safely assume that he only had complete sussano when he fought Hashirama, and Mito also aided him in sealing Kyuubi. So I suppose it is safe to assume that Hashirama was aided. Regardless, can't argue with the fact that it was an even fight to the death.

I don't quite agree on the Sage being unbeatable, because nothing in the manga alludes to this statement. We know that he subdued the tailed beast with his eyes; a legacy he passed on to the older brother. Sealed in within himself and then unsealed it. After that he split it up and creating the sealing stone. The sealing stone was not originally a celestial body, it became one later. There is always a point that he may have used the tailed beasts chakra to create the moon? He did become the Jinchuriki after all. Like Naruto borrows the chakra, he may have too. So, a lot of things about this guy are shrouded in mystery. Until we don't know more, we can only speculate.

Can't rep you though, I must spread it around. Good points.

 

[Virus..]

what was the real point of this thread? Just a flame war or to be in hot threads ....

 

[shogun973]

Edo Hashirama > Edo Madara. Now you mad 8=D—

wrong edo does nothing for hashi he already had way more chakra than madara, now its a tie....he already automatically regenerated, but now madara can too....these are the reasons he won in the first place, in fact i think edo ems>edo hashi

 

[MrSimple]

It's not people's fault that Madara is equal to the s06p already. Deal with it... So yes this Madara > Hashi by far.

 

[Carlhens]

naruto will find one

 

[VandalJay]

Hmm, actually you do have a pont there. Although I don't remember Obito controlling the Three Tails which chapter was that? And yeah it does seem out of character for Hashirama to forcibly control the bijuu. I stand corrected.

 

[Ceae]

It's not people's fault that Madara is equal to the s06p already. Deal with it... So yes this Madara > Hashi by far.

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[Stroking my noodle]

It's not people's fault that Madara is equal to the s06p already. Deal with it... So yes this Madara > Hashi by far.

My Gosh why are you so stupid? sniff

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[xxSAGExx]

Wow ppl just wow. Madara now is stronger than Hashirama but s not stronger than the Sage. just because Madara has his power, wood element and the Rinnegan you think he passed the Sage End of Days? Wrong. Madara has waterd down DNA of the Sage who has pure 100%. He has the Rinngan which gave him the power to create things with ying and yang chakra, created all jutsus, BEAT the 10 tails and sealed it inside himself increasing his power that much. Being one to create the jutsus gives him the knowledge to break down jutsus and find their weakness.

 

[shelke]

Wow ppl just wow. Madara now is stronger than Hashirama but s not stronger than the Sage. just because Madara has his power, wood element and the Rinnegan you think he passed the Sage End of Days? Wrong. Madara has waterd down DNA of the Sage who has pure 100%. He has the Rinngan which gave him the power to create things with ying and yang chakra, created all jutsus, BEAT the 10 tails and sealed it inside himself increasing his power that much. Being one to create the jutsus gives him the knowledge to break down jutsus and find their weakness.

I am sorry, what? lol The sage created ALL jutsus? Where did you get this from? He didn't beat the ten tails, but suppressed it power. I don't know where you people are getting all this, when the sage never even created Ninjutsu, it were his teachings that were named ninjutsu, not created jutsus. This thread is filled with nothing but speculation.