Madara-Danzou Conspiracy

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The more I think about it the more Danzou's actions don't make any sense.

He wants to become Hokage but he's allow the leader of Akatsuki to completely destroy Konoha while he has supposedly capable people who could help stop it. Like one of his people asked him, isn't it better to go help.

Even if Danzou took over as Hokage, Konoha would be so weak that any substantial village could invade and completely destroy it at any given time. The loss of Kakashi and several other strong shinobi while fighting Pain means Konoha is losing its ability to take down Akatsuki.

The only way Danzou's intentions make sense to me is if he is under the orders of Madara. Here is why I think this is a possibility.

  • Danzou is up there in age. If the Sandaime was trained by the Nidaime and Shodaime then somebody strong had to train Danzou.
  • Danzou is military minded and thinks first and foremost about power. That sounds like Madara to me.
  • He's perfectly willing to see someone sacrificed in order to have his goals achieved.
  • He never made a move while Itachi was alive. We know that Itachi threatened both Danzou and Madara. Danzou was threatened about harming Sasuke and Madara with touching Konoha.
Admittedly I dont know how keeping Naruto away helps Madara's plans but it might make sense if Madara realized Naruto had the potential to kill Pain after he defeated Kakuzu.

And how was Danzou so sure it was Akatsuki's leader specifically and not just several Akatsuki members?

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wow that's pretty obvious.
For Danzo to became Hokage he has to include in his plot Tsunade's murder, and also a chaotic ambient (like the current one), because in a normal situation Danzo would never be elected Hokage, never!
It's probable but i don't think there's any link of Danzo to Akatsuki, or Madara mainly because he stopped Naruto from coming back, and i can't see what possible plot Kishi could create to turn around this fact.. I believe Danzo is just an internal enemy (a real dangerous one) for Konoha and Tsunade, that will bring chaos to the village as we all know since the beginning.
I "know" a great ninja war will come but can't figure out how...
 

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let's see..
i think jiraiya once told them that akatsuki was made out of 10 man.. after oro left it went down to 9 man..
Sakura killed sasori, they thought deidara died with the blow..
makes it 7.

hidan got killed by shikamura and naruto killed kakuzu..
down to 5 man. Sasuke ''defeated'' Itachi.. so maybe they also thought of Kisame was defeated.. back down to 3 man.. They saw tobi.. a new member.. back to 4 man.
They know zetsu.. and that he's scouting mainly.. ( they got akatsuki files ) so count him off since he wont be able to do much on his own. Back to 3 man.

so pain, konan and tobi remains.. kyuubi is the strongest between the bijuus soo mabe just a little logicall thinking of danzou that figured out that the leader of akatsuki wud invade konoha.. And after knowing that jiraiya got defeated by pain and that the leader of akatsuki, pain has te rinnegan.. it automaticly directs to him..

danzou is smart im pretty sure of it.. so he used his brains and found out that leader would attack :)
 

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because hes retard and desperate in taking the title of hokage.. he knew that as long sandaime was alive he couldnt take it.. and he knew the time would come and now that tsunade is hokage he sees her as a weaker roll to fullfile the role of hokage and now that akatsuki is attackin he has taken advantage of it..
ofcourse he killed the frog, he doesnt want naruto to get captured so that pain or madara can get the kyuubi in their hands..

he did something good while doing it bad..
 

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i know he did something good atleast he could give them help with some of is anbu guess what he did he just went to is tunnel with them. can he understand that "there's ppl who's dying right now they need help with the anbu", atleast he can send like 4 anbu to back them up. if konoha fall how he gonna rebuilt it back.

oh by the way Think about this: what if Danzou did take over Konoha and turned it into a militaristic society? Those who opposed him would probably be driven out.
 

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that's a possibility yes..
well i can expect anything from an old scumbag like him so i shouldn't get surprised at all..
he's the type that wud kill his best friend for 1 gold piece. but will kill anyone who tries to do that to him..

but ur theory about that his sensei COULD be madara is a good one..
very likely and they match up pretty good aswell so...

and it's like danzou said.. sometimes you have to sacrifice something to achief ur ultimate goal..
in this case danzou's goal is to be hokage, and in this situation he has to sacrifice some lives to take that title..

but danzou isn't capable to do anything on his own without anbu root...
so he doesnt fill in that role at all
 
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what danzou could do (besides what he did) to prolong the anarchy, is to kill off or attack the cloud ninjas who were headed towards konoha. force an unwanted war upon konoha.
sand might side with konoha. and the fourth ninja war might begin this way. not what i want.
 
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