Madara Can't Use Motokun on Naruto Or Karuma

[ANBU Kakashi23]

have you seen the range of madara mokuton? the only trees that would be adversely affected by the influx of yang chakra would be the ones in the vicinity of naruto's body, and even then we dont have any idea what that much yang chakra would do to a true mokuton wielder on the scale of hashi, if it would be beneficial or hazardous , but madara definitely will not turn into a tree, zetsu is entirely composed of hashi dna, hes a plant to begin with, it isnt hard to see why an influx of yang chakra turned him into tree, why would you think madara would suffer the same fate when his enormous inexhaustible chakra stores will always be there to supress the mokuton if it starts to rage

edit: the only reason danzo lost control was because he was low on chakra, madara will never be low on chakra U_U

 

[Stark]

Ummm, So Madara is going to turn into a tree? Okay..

 

[Styles]

white zetsu is grown from hashiramas cells. thats why that happened. that wont happen just from having hashiramas cells implanted. by this logic tobi wouldve been turned into a tree the moment he went into close range of naruto. if anything theoretically if madara used mokuton against kcm naruto then the mokuton would become stronger due to naruto giving off alot of yang energy.

only from danzou

 

[Οdin]

Kishimoto will never let this happen. You are talking about Madara. But one never knows...

 

[Maunten]

have you seen the range of madara mokuton? the only trees that would be adversely affected by the influx of yang chakra would be the ones in the vicinity of naruto's body, and even then we dont have any idea what that much yang chakra would do to a true mokuton wielder on the scale of hashi, if it would be beneficial or hazardous , but madara definitely will not turn into a tree, zetsu is entirely composed of hashi dna, hes a plant to begin with, it isnt hard to see why an influx of yang chakra turned him into tree, why would you think madara would suffer the same fate when his enormous inexhaustible chakra stores will always be there to supress the mokuton if it starts to rage

edit: the only reason danzo lost control was because he was low on chakra, madara will never be low on chakra U_U

Hmm this is true, but remember hashi's chakra is yang chakra also, we know there are huge amounts of yang chakra in madara's body already.

If this is added to by karumas unimaginably huge amounts of yang chakra the two combined may overwhelm madara's.

You are correct though we can't know for sure xd, but with this theory I really look forward to their fight, madara may have to try and rid himself of hashirama's chakra in order to fight naruto.

Also tobi would not turn into a tree because he is not motukon himself but uses the life force of zentsu to heal and reform his limbs.

reason danzo lost control was because he was low on chakra, madara will never be low on chakra U_U

The amount of hashi DNA and thus chakra in danzo is a lot less than in madara, and this yang chakra will be further added to by naruto, so madara may not have to be low on his own chakra, just really really high on yang chakra.

Madara using shadow clones would split his chakra.

Btw his chakra replenishes rapidly back to it's peak, that is why it is unlimited, not because it's peak is infinity.

That would mean he can use rinnegan at a greater level than that of the sage, or his susanoo would have been bigger than earth itself.

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

Hmm this is true, but remember hashi's chakra is yang chakra also, we know there are huge amounts of yang chakra in madara's body already.

If this is added to by karumas unimaginably huge amounts of yang chakra the two combined may overwhelm madara's.

You are correct though we can't know for sure xd, but with this theory I really look forward to their fight, madara may have to try and rid himself of hashirama's chakra in order to fight naruto.

Also tobi would not turn into a tree because he is not motukon himself but uses the life force of zentsu to heal and reform his limbs.

depends on how the fight goes, unless madara catches naruto with mokuton then naruto starts focusing his chakra and madara just sits there and watches the mokuton go bat shit from a distance, i dont see it happening, the only reason he would really have to get rid of his hashi parts would be if he used mokuton for close range defense and didnt realize what naruto's yang chakra would do to his mokuton, but well see, i think madara will be fighting sasuke though, imo

i wont even pretend to know whats going on with tobi..dude is weird U_U

The amount of hashi DNA and thus chakra in danzo is a lot less than in madara, and this yang chakra will be further added to by naruto, so madara may not have to be low on his own chakra, just really really high on yang chakra.

Madara using shadow clones would split his chakra.

Btw his chakra replenishes rapidly back to it's peak, that is why it is unlimited, not because it's peak is infinity.

That would mean he can use rinnegan at a greater level than that of the sage, or his susanoo would have been bigger than earth itself.

simply because naruto comes into contact with mokuton doesnt automatically mean madara gets injected with yang chakra, the chakra would have to travel through the mokuton branches to reach madara, and given there is a physical effect of the yang chakra, trees going crazy, AND the fact that the sharingan can differentiate between chakra's i sincerely doubt narutos yang chakra will reach madara in the ways hes used mokuton from what weve seen, also, i dont think madara would use shadow clones and mokuton at the same time, just judging by how he fought with the kages

and i know, inexhaustable = constantly replenishing, doesnt mean he has infinite chakra, its just inexhaustible

 

[Maunten]

depends on how the fight goes, unless madara catches naruto with mokuton then naruto starts focusing his chakra and madara just sits there and watches the mokuton go bat shit from a distance, i dont see it happening, the only reason he would really have to get rid of his hashi parts would be if he used mokuton for close range defense and didnt realize what naruto's yang chakra would do to his mokuton, but well see, i think madara will be fighting sasuke though, imo

i wont even pretend to know whats going on with tobi..dude is weird U_U

Well yeah if yang release from karuma has a slow effect it's not gonna work out but it seems to overwhelm pretty quickly. Don't know about it working over long distance unless naruto really gives it out.

Who is tobi..no no, WHO is tobi?

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[Cerox0]

Soooo

your sayinggg

Madara will become a Tree?


Faith in humanity: DELETED

 

[Maunten]

Soooo

your sayinggg

Madara will become a Tree?


Faith in humanity: DELETED

Madara uses motokun, which is powerd by yang chakra.

His DNA is also for all intesive purposes fused with a a great deal of hashirama's DNA, meaning he has a large amount of yang chakra within him.

He has also been eginered to use hashirama's kekkei genkai.

Naruto and karuma in harmony allows a massive amount of yang chakra (from karuma) to be released, almost all of naruto's attacks are infused with majority yang chakra.

This has caused the yang chakra to overwhelm the motokun users own chakra, meaning that they can no longer suppress and control the yang chakra within themselves (implanted).

The result of this has often resulted in the opponent with hashi DNA becoming a tree.



This is not the only time people have been transformed due to being overwhelmed by chakra from naruto.

Overwhelmed By Natural Energy From Naruto

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Well I hope now that the way I have explain it has allowed you to see what I am trying to get across.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

Madara uses motokun, which is powerd by yang chakra.

His DNA is also for all intesive purposes fused with a a great deal of hashirama's DNA, meaning he has a large amount of yang chakra within him.

He has also been eginered to use hashirama's kekkei genkai.

Naruto and karuma in harmony allows a massive amount of yang chakra (from karuma) to be released, almost all of naruto's attacks are infused with majority yang chakra.

This has caused the yang chakra to overwhelm the motokun users own chakra, meaning that they can no longer suppress and control the yang chakra within themselves (implanted).

The result of this has often resulted in the opponent with hashi DNA becoming a tree.



This is not the only time people have been transformed due to being overwhelmed by chakra from naruto.

Overwhelmed By Natural Energy From Naruto

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Well I hope now that the way I have explain it has allowed you to see what I am trying to get across.

So ur basically saying madara's chakra would be overwhelmed by naruto's causing mokuton to be in effective ?

 

[Maunten]

So ur basically saying madara's chakra would be overwhelmed by naruto's causing mokuton to be in effective ?

No, I am saying that karuma, the creature with the second most abundant yang chakra reserves in NU combined with the yang chakra within madara already (from hashirama) would overwhelm madara's own chakra.

 

[Memoria]

Wait. Madara has Hashirama's mokuton, no? It has both Yin and Yang, hence why it grows trees; it grows life. Yamato's lacked the Yang Chakra, so it is just wood. Hence why it grew the trees (it grew the 'life') when Naruto was near it in KM. So this effect would increase the trees of Madara's Mokuton I believe.

Thoughts?

I'd agree with what you said, but Yamato did grow trees though.

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[Ryuu..]

I'd agree with what you said, but Yamato did grow trees though.

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Yeah, realise that now. It's just that he very rarely uses the trees, it's all wood based with him. So when Naruto caused the trees to grow, that must be due to his wood lacking Yang chakra. But of course when he grew the trees, he was able to effectively combine the two.

 

[Memoria]

Yeah, realise that now. It's just that he very rarely uses the trees, it's all wood based with him. So when Naruto caused the trees to grow, that must be due to his wood lacking Yang chakra. But of course when he grew the trees, he was able to effectively combine the two.

Yeah, he usually uses normal wood in battle, he may not be capable of using trees effectively in battle, because most of the times he grew trees, it was out of battle.

 

[Djokovic]

Yamato's mokuton won't work against Madara. I guess Hashirama deserves the same threatment.

 

[Maunten]

Yeah, realise that now. It's just that he very rarely uses the trees, it's all wood based with him. So when Naruto caused the trees to grow, that must be due to his wood lacking Yang chakra. But of course when he grew the trees, he was able to effectively combine the two.

Hmm but surely wood release is alive anyway, additional yang chakra means more life hence they become trees.

People with hashi cells have motokun kekkei genkai within them, meaning potentially it can be forcefully activated with excess Yang chakra, so the KG is activated against the users will.

The chakra of the shino with hashi's DNA has to be used to suppress the yang chakra that comes with hashi's DNA, as a jinchuriki would use their chakra to suppress the chakra of the beast.

The shino's chakra has to > The Yang chakra within them so that the motokun does not consume them.

This is impossible if you come into direct contact with naruto if he is in perfect jin beast mode because of much chakra is tapped into.

 

[mojocashis]

i don't agree wit u zetsu is no way near madara's level.

 

[Multiply]

Yet this didn't happen to yamato?

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Sorry but this is a good theory. Yamato has been effected by it

i don't agree wit u zetsu is no way near madara's level.

That would mean the effect Naruto has on him would be even stronger?

 

[obscoral]

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[Maunten]

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Sorry but this is a good theory. Yamato has been effected by it

That would mean the effect Naruto has on him would be even stronger?

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