[Theory] Madara can neutralize Jutsu's from forming

[Senju Bean]

Haha, yeah cause I didn't make a theory for years, because anything is possible in this manga lately. Kishi says one thing is not possible, and then he makes it possible anyway. You cannot do solid theories with such a basis. Anyway, no good theories are made regarding Naruto anymore, because of that, and because we know almost everything now, those that are being made are more philosophical theories. Theories based on material from single chapters are just a waste of time. U_U

Well feel free to link to a page in the manga, where it is said, that rinnengan is unaffected by genjutsu.
Besides did Madara fall for it, if it was a genjutsu? Obviously not, which was my point the entire time... but you failed to get even that.

Is it a suicide mission now? Sasuke has Karin and Juugo, they can both save his life, even if he is split in half. There is also many other shinobi that can do so. And what about Hashiramas chakra? We all know what kind of buff that gives. Sasuke could also use Izanagi now. In fact there are countless possibilities, which you just neglected in this thread.

Would you not be surprised if you were stopped that easily? If it is a clone, a genjutsu, or whatever. Itachi also looked surprised, when Sasuke stabbed him in a genjutsu. It's quite common, besides would it be any excitement, if he just looked normal or smiled? Think a little, bro.

Jugo and Karin would get vaporized by Madara if they come even close to the vicinity. Their presences are like bugs in the face of a god.

Rinnegan may be susecptable to genjutsu. We don't know since we have never seen Madara being put under genjutsu. Nagato doesn't count since he wasn't the original wielder.

But Rinnegan>>>Sharingan by far. Common sense tells us that genjutsu should not work.

 

[Imperius]

Madara can now see through clones with his Rinnegan. Clones are useless against a real Rinnegan user.

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But the question is: Can Madara see clones made from Plot?

 

[Senju Bean]

But the question is: Can Madara see clones made from Plot?

Well, here's what I think. By plot, Sasuke is taking up too much panel time and is too unpopular. So this is Kishi's way of killing him off or severely injuring him, putting him out of the game.

 

[thegame]

Jugo and Karin would get vaporized by Madara if they come even close to the vicinity. Their presences are like bugs in the face of a god.

Rinnegan may be susecptable to genjutsu. We don't know since we have never seen Madara being put under genjutsu. Nagato doesn't count since he wasn't the original wielder.

But Rinnegan>>>Sharingan by far. Common sense tells us that genjutsu should not work.

So blinded by fanboyism... You do know, we are talking about a situation, where Sasuke succeeds in "binding" Madara somehow, then even if he suffers a fatal wound, those two can heal him... but you probably never even considered a situation, where Madara lost?

Exactly, we don't know, so you cannot neglect the possibility of that being a genjutsu. Besides it is not a question, whether anyone is immune to genjutsu or not - nobody is immune. It is a question if one can see through the genjutsu or not, which we would all assume someone as capable as Madara would be able to, and if Sasuke did indeed use a genjutsu, would the scene not just prove, that Madara saw through it? Yes it would..

Common sense does not apply to manga, and particularly not to Naruto. U_U

 

[Senju Bean]

So blinded by fanboyism... You do know, we are talking about a situation, where Sasuke succeeds in "binding" Madara somehow, then even if he suffers a fatal wound, those two can heal him... but you probably never even considered a situation, where Madara lost?

Exactly, we don't know, so you cannot neglect the possibility of that being a genjutsu. Besides it is not a question, whether anyone is immune to genjutsu or not - nobody is immune. It is a question if one can see through the genjutsu or not, which we would all assume someone as capable as Madara would be able to, and if Sasuke did indeed use a genjutsu, would the scene not just prove, that Madara saw through it? Yes it would..

Common sense does not apply to manga, and particularly not to Naruto. U_U

Ok but here's some common sense: Kishi is a grown man and would not do something so stupid as to have Madara toppled by some second rate genjutsu that most likely Madara himself have mastered.


Ok fine, even if Sasuke does something its because of Hashi's help and there is no way Sasuke can escape on his own. Someone either has to teleport him out or someone super strong has to intervene to destract Madara so that Sasuke can escape.

 

[Shinato]

And somehow the best counter attack is done while having a blade through the heart?

If his attack requires say physical contact with Madara, then yes. Using the blade as a medium.

 

[Senju Bean]

It turns out that Susanoo was neutralized, Sasuke actually got stabbed, and he is surprised as hell as his life quickly fades away.

I was right...

 

[RikudouMadara]

Are you serious... I stated I was talking about what Madara said to Obito in the page YOU linked when I said Madara stated Naruto was a clone. This was based off of having already met a confirmed clone. Confirmed by Kabuto in the link I posted.

You just stating Kabuto comment wasn't needed, is not evidence by the way, it's just your belief.

I believe he's correct Drax. In your scan Madara never asked Kabuto if he were a clone or not. Kabuto simply told him beforehand. At that time we*don't know wether Madara can differentiate or not.

Nao in the scan he posted Madara clearly states that Naruto was a clone. Even if based on Kabuto telling him about the other one was...anyones initial reaction would be to think that since that other one was a clone, this must be the real one. Though Madara said this is a clone, which shows Madara could see that Naruto was a clone. So he can differentiate between real and clones.

 

[B00m]

Rinnegan, Sagemode, Gedo+Bijuu, and Madara at the helm of all this. Not to mention 2 wicked ass zetsu's. He can do whatever he wants as far as I'm concerned. Now that I mention it, he's doing just that.

And Madara vs Sasuke shouldn't really be an argument at this point, even if Sasuke had Rinnegan, Madara has more knowledge. Not to mention a Zetsu that can summon a version of True Several Thousand Hands.

 

[FearxDeath]

Sasuke was able to active Susanoo at the last second despite being restricted with paralyzing seals.

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However, somehow Madara prevented him from doing so. In fact, look at Sasuke's confusion. He doesn't even know why he can't defend himself. Madara's stab was slower than Danzo's swing being that it took Madara a whole sentence to complete the stab.

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Sasuke should have been able to active Susanno, but Madara neutralized Sasuke's ability to form the jutsu. Amazing.

He was probably just placed in a Gennjutsu

 

[Senju Bean]

He was probably just placed in a Gennjutsu

Rinnegan isn't really the type of eye known to cast genjutsu: it has too much Yang fused with the Yin.

I think Madara may have used a very advanced form of Preta Path, absorbing the very initial stages of Sasuke's Susanoo so that it doesn't take form at all.