Madara can cancel Kamui.

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Izanagi affects space and time just fine and was based off Ying-Yang jutsu. I think the parent jutsu can easily disturb space and time considering it creates reality and undoes reality and is the basis for genjutsu itself and medical ninjutsu :p

Izanagi's parent jutsu is COAT. When was it shown that madara can use it? you are giving madara the feats of the rikudo. Madara has never shown such abilities. If your basis for this assumpton is based on madara becoming the juubi's jinchuriki, then Obito would shown such abilities as well.
 

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Kamui cannot be block by onmyoudon. Going back to the original discussion. Madara can counter Kamui with ease. Whether its Kakashi's version or Obito's.
 

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We saw Itachi create and bend time within genjutsu. Unless we perceive that it was the perception of time which was bent. Time is not a thing. And I think Kakashi really lacks the ability to concentrate or focus enough to catch Madara off-guard as they caught Obito.... Granted, I bet some PnJ asspull gives him that time. Madara will counter Kamui somehow, even if it isn't canceled outright. Perhaps with a clone? In any case Kakashi stands no chance :p

Now you're talking. We all know kakashi stands no chance against madara. But madara with his current feats can't stop kamui
 

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Izanagi affects space and time just fine and was based off Ying-Yang jutsu. I think the parent jutsu can easily disturb space and time considering it creates reality and undoes reality and is the basis for genjutsu itself and medical ninjutsu :p

Would only make sense if Kamui's dimension is actually the realm of illusion, which is still a moot theory. ;p
 

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Madara has any number of means to counter Kamui even without the Ying-yang jutsu. Preta path comes to mind. Superior speed or just usage of a wood clone. Maybe even forcing Obito to counter it through the Zetsu clones possession. Placing Kakashi under genjutsu would work too. Or assault before he has time to even use it, which is most likely. Madara is smart enough to realize Kakashi is the big threat. Minato will run to Naruto and save his son over Obito for sure.

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End of the day Kakakashi's Kamui's big weakness is it relies on perception and thus requires timing (this has been seen many times in the series). Since Kakashi isn't Uchiha it takes a lot out of him compared with Obito. He must make each one count, and he has no way to hope to see through Madara's flat out hax
 
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Or hey let's say you're right and Madara cannot counter it. The Zetsu clone will just force Obito to counter it. I mean really, I can't believe NB actually believes Madara will get taken down by Kakashi. Unbelievable fanboy wankfest going on here :p

Bro this is all you needed to say.

There's no way in hell kakashi is taking down madara but fact of the matter is that kamui works on him.

No wankfest going on, kamui logically cannot be stopped by madara. this is the point that people are trying to get across, kakashi has nothing to do with this other than the fact that its his eye [irrelevant to the actual discussion].

Yes your idea is a way to avoid the kamui snipe but this doesnt change the fact that its "unstoppable" to him.

Preta path comes to mind.

Again nothing suggests that preta can absorb a distortion in space & time.

Preta occupies that space, so it is ineffective.
 

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Somehow this holy man of all realms that is unbound by earthly desires cancelled the will of god for Obito U_U
 

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The ability to undo and create matter renders any concept of Euclidean space, time or geometry absolutely meaningless... It defies physics precisely because it is the power of a God to create and destroy energy and matter -- even time itself -- without penalty.

We saw Itachi create and bend time within genjutsu. Unless we perceive that it was the perception of time which was bent. Time is not a thing. And I think Kakashi really lacks the ability to concentrate or focus enough to catch Madara off-guard as they caught Obito.... Granted, I bet some PnJ asspull gives him that time. Madara will counter Kamui somehow, even if it isn't canceled outright. Perhaps with a clone? In any case Kakashi stands no chance

Or hey let's say you're right and Madara cannot counter it. The Zetsu clone will just force Obito to counter it. I mean really, I can't believe NB actually believes Madara will get taken down by Kakashi. Unbelievable fanboy wankfest going on here :p

@ Bold: However, having the power couldn't prohibit Obito from being warped with Hirashin.

I'll agree to the underlined.
 

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I stand by ying-yang being able to turn reality into nothing. Reality includes space, matter and time. Whether Kishi perceives it this way or not is unlikely to ever be answered.. I think Madara takes out Kakashi before he has time to use Kamui :p
 

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Now let's not walk faster than our shadow
 

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This is a pretty tough one. But at this point on I have a hard time believing Madara can get beaten by Kamui.
 
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