Madara brought more peace than hashirama

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all credit done and accomplished by madara
 

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So did Hitler bring a lot of Nation together against Him and no one would in their right mind nominated Him for the Nobel Peace price.
 

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Without Madara, no 4th War or any of the other trouble he stirred, or the trouble Obito caused because Madara trolled him.

premise of the thread fails.

Which also means no Alliance and war between the nations.
 

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This is a pretty weird logic. I could say that without Naruto, there wouldn't be any unite Shinobi Alliance since he pretty much saved them from Zetsu. Thus there would be no peace.
 

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Hitler also brought a lot of nations together.. I wonder if you would class him as bringer of peace...

in a way.. yes.
Though Madara's motives were never to exterminate, just to rule. Many monarchies that still rule today were brought to power by doing things way worse than Madara.
 

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please tell that to the thousands of shinobi that died :3

thousands killed to end generations worth of constant warfare? worth it
 

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thousands killed to end generations worth of constant warfare? worth it

If you say so. I mean they could have just formed the alliance peacefully , but I guess using thousands of people lives as sacrifice will do.
 
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This is a pretty weird logic. I could say that without Naruto, there wouldn't be any unite Shinobi Alliance since he pretty much saved them from Zetsu. Thus there would be no peace.

^this, the point of peace is that there is no death or fighting. maybe you don't know the meaning of peace and war.
 

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Oh yea Madara got used by Kaguya,it was Her plan to use Madara for Her return, Madara was a fool thinking it was His plan and that He was in control. Kaguya Troll Madara.
 

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Oh yea Madara got used by Kaguya,it was Her plan to use Madara for Her return, Madara was a fool thinking it was His plan and that He was in control. Kaguya Troll Madara.
why don't you start thinking yourself instead of leaving that bit of work to your status update?
 

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why don't you start thinking yourself instead of leaving that bit of work to your status update?
I just stated a fact,I can't help if you can handle the truth and prefer the illusion over reality grow up delusional thinking get you kill.
 

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Oh yea Madara got used by Kaguya,it was Her plan to use Madara for Her return, Madara was a fool thinking it was His plan and that He was in control. Kaguya Troll Madara.

If 2 people have 2 different purposes for their plans, that doesn't make the other have control of the plan than other (Kaguya), when the other had been progressing the plot to his wishes (Madara). Your argument makes no sense and is invalid to the discussion.

OT: He did indirectly unite them, but his plan was for himself to be in control of everyone and everything. So it's not a form of ''peace''.
 

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If 2 people have 2 different purposes for their plans, that doesn't make the other have control of the plan than other (Kaguya), when the other had been progressing the plot to his wishes (Madara). Your argument makes no sense and is invalid to the discussion.

OT: He did indirectly unite them, but his plan was for himself to be in control of everyone and everything. So it's not a form of ''peace''.
You took the time to make a serious reply to someone like him? Woah +rep
OT: It was never his intend, but it still happened nonetheless.
 
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That's like saying Hitler was a good guy because the world revolted against him.
 
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