Madara absorbing the god tree

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Hi guys. I want to discuss about what exactly happened in the last chapter regarding madara absorbing shinju.

First, let's start with: what exactly was the shinju at that time?
Let's see. Obito, by sealing all the 7 bijuu and a very small piece of the hachibi and kurama, managed to "revive" the juubi. Then, the juubi evolved into another stronger form. That form was further absorbed by obito, who became the jinchuriki of the juubi.

Then, we saw that, after some time, he "release"(like a bijuu mode) the juubi. However, when that happens, the juubi was in another form, the so called "god tree", that is it's final form. Of course, as seen, it wasn't really complete, as it wasn't able to bloom the flower as usual, taking much more time to do so, due to the lack of the hachibi and kyuubi. Obito was the one who controlled it, as seen, just like a "wireless" bijuu mode.

After obito was defeated, the god tree stood. However, the bijuus were removed from obito, and the gedo mazou was still inside of him.

That's where the problem starts: After this point, what exactly is the shinju? It no longer possessed the bijuu chakra, right? So, the most logical explanation is that is just a giant tree, but with no power, right?

Then we saw that madara resealed the 7 bijuu, and this time, he sealed the hachibi, and 50% of the kyuubi, thus "reviving" s atronger juubi, which he sealed inside of himself.

So far, so good. But in the last chapter, it seems that the shinju was still alive, somehow, and still had some power. Let's check the scans:

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Ok, so this is madara, right after he absorbed the juubi. Pay attention to his outfit.

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Here, we see someone talking to madara. It seemed to be the god tree.

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Now, this is madara, right after he absorbed the god tree. It's very small, but we can see some changes. His gloves seem to be larger now, and fi you pay attention, you'll see rikudou marks on the gloves and close to his feet, something that wasn't there when he became the jinchuriki.
Not only that, but an image with that third eye was shown.

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Pay attention to those changes again.

The questions I want to ask you are: what exactly was the shinju at that time? Why did it manage to talk to madara, since it was supposed to be just a giant empty tree? And, considering that it was empty, how did it seem to have changed madara a little, bit, and why that third eye was shown?

Thanks for the attention.
 

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It's because the god tree doesn't really have a mind on its own. It's more likely it is being controlled by kaguya . That's why we have the image of kaguya in the background. Madara seems to have realised that it was kaguya.
 

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It's because the god tree doesn't really have a mind on its own. It's more likely it is being controlled by kaguya . That's why we have the image of kaguya in the background. Madara seems to have realised that it was kaguya.
But how is it kaguya? Was a part of kaguya's power inside the god tree, thus changing madara a little bit?
 

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Because Kishi doesn't write properly, he just retcons.

If Obito spawned the tree that means Madara had less power than Obito.

But then again maybe Madara got the power of the fruit when he absorbed it..
 

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Because Kishi doesn't write properly, he just retcons.

If Obito spawned the tree that means Madara had less power than Obito.

But then again maybe Madara got the power of the fruit when he absorbed it..
Minato when he saw Rikudo Madara said that he felt the power of the Hermit stronger than Obito!! This tells us that he had more power than Obito! Now that he has both the Juubi and the Holy Tree he is more powerful than the Sage and he is at Kaguya's level!!
 

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Yes, the convolution began when Obito released the Juubi to evolve into the god tree - but still had the Juubi inside him at the same time.

It was never properly explained what exactly happened there.

Another thing is that once the Bijuu were pulled out from Obito, the tree "shut down" in a way since the countdown to Tsuki no me apparently stopped.
After Madara became the Jin, I expected the tree to become active again and continue the blooming of it's flower, but apparently it didn't...

It's all pretty vague and unexplained...
 
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