[Discussion] Madar was right not trusting the village

[majidnabil]

don't you think Madara was right distrusting sinju and the village;
because every thing he expected happened >>>>
the first hokage was hashirama , the second was tobirama until the 5th , and finally the uchiha clan realized that they have to do something about this , keeping them away was wrong
why sarutobi clan have the 3rd hokage
while the uchiha was founding partner of the village>>
don't you think that the village found that the uchiha plans was a good chance and excuse to exterminating them >>
I am not sasuke fan but today after reading the manga;
i think if sasuke decided to destroy the village he is excused; to take revenge is not evil or darkness

one thing is reality Tobirama:devil: is the evil one (being the second hokage was the first spark to start uchiha rebel )

 

[avenged sevenfold]

He was right in distrusting of tobirama but he should have trusted hashirama more

 

[Saikyokami]

Yah I dislike tobirama right now more than I did after he got revived ... Stupid racist twat

 

[Champ]

Yeah he knew what Tobirama would try to do

 

[abodi mohi]

truee
.............

 

[Fusion Reborn]

Tobirama reminded me of a rich spoiled kid wanting a poor kid to die.

 

[UchihaKira]

Tobirama is the final villain

 

[blackstar9]

Tobirama caused the distrust. He wasn't ready to let go of the past.

 

[Wolfang714]

Yeah... Tobirama needs to take a nap or something :| He influenced the choosing of the Hokage, knowing that Hashirama would give in and he continued to say prejudice things about the Uchiha.

For example: Many Mexicans, not all (I know both legal and illegal), have been coming in the U.S. illegally. Of course the U.S. and its citizens know it, but it doesn't require that one person who won't stop b*tching and whining about it to let it rip and say pretty much everything he can without having charges pressed.

I liked how Madara stopped Hashirama from seppuku, but he should really try to understand the position Hashirama is in due to a certain relative >>>>>>>

Spoiler

Tobirama -_-

<<<<<<<<<

In the end, even if Madara did understand, there would be know place for the Uchiha in the village and they would continue to be outcasts and ostracized. Oh yeah, that part with the Uchiha Tablet was really cool.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Its all cause of tobirama if he simply kept his mouth shut none of that would have happened

 

[Onion Soda]

don't you think Madara was right distrusting sinju and the village;
because every thing he expected happened >>>>

No, he wasn't right, he make everything possible to not be proved wrong. You're giving too much simpathy to a psycho.
Do you know the concept "Self-fulfilling prophecy"?

 

[majidnabil]

Madara believed that when Hashirama gone his ideals will be gone specially for his clan interests , Madara went wrong when he decided to leave , he should try to go over distrust he felt coming from Tobirama and some of the senju and try remove the past distrust of each side

 

[AlphaSeed]

yeh man, Tobirama is the wrong one, even now his created jutsu edo tensei is causing havoc ...long long ago i suspected something to be up with him because of his red eyes, gives me faith kishi really does know where he is going with the story

edit: kinda like the bad guy on the "good side" ...reminds me so much of america

 

[TenthHokagexRamen]

I agree with tobirama. The uchihas are to damn unstable and emotional. What madara doesn't know is that he is the reason people started distrusting the uchihas to begin with and obito was the one to finally push the line to where they needed to go.

 

[Shinato]

Tobirama is the reason the Madara left, Madara is the reason the Uchiha lost more respect and started a rebel, The Uchiha is the reason they got massacred, The Massacre is the reason Sasuke is on a revenge path.

Tobirama is the main dot that started it all, however all the other dots are responsible for there own actions. However they wouldn't have made the choice they did if it hadn't been for Tobirama. Well that is my point of view at least.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Tobirama was right about Madara though, he became evil, don't blame him for hating the Uchiha because the Sharingan works the same way for everyone but if he could see Itachi and Shisui, he would have seen how wrong he was to judge every Uchiha the same way.

Tobirama is the reason the Madara left, Madara is the reason the Uchiha lost more respect and started a rebel, The Uchiha is the reason they got massacred, The Massacre is the reason Sasuke is on a revenge path.

Tobirama is the main dot that started it all, however all the other dots are responsible for there own actions. However they wouldn't have made the choice they did if it hadn't been for Tobirama. Well that is my point of view at least.

No its not Tobiramas fault, he already kinda knew what was gona happen, look at what he said to Hashi and he also read the stone so he knew what he had to do to become stronger.

 

[kisamexRocks]

Tobirama just needs to shut the hell up.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

as i made a thread about both mens assumptions led to bad things

 

[Mellanoma]

don't you think Madara was right distrusting sinju and the village;
because every thing he expected happened >>>>
the first hokage was hashirama , the second was tobirama until the 5th , and finally the uchiha clan realized that they have to do something about this , keeping them away was wrong
why sarutobi clan have the 3rd hokage
while the uchiha was founding partner of the village>>
don't you think that the village found that the uchiha plans was a good chance and excuse to exterminating them >>
I am not sasuke fan but today after reading the manga;
i think if sasuke decided to destroy the village he is excused; to take revenge is not evil or darkness

one thing is reality Tobirama:devil: is the evil one (being the second hokage was the first spark to start uchiha rebel )

It was Madara own doing that caused his clan to be wiped out. The coup was started cause Uchiha realized they were being oppressed AFTER the nine tail incident cause the village suspected an uchiha was behind it.

Tobirama spoke the truth Madara was just butt hurt over it. Afterall, Uchiha and Senju disliked Madara! and Tobirama basically told Hashirama making Madara hokage would go against all the people and the people should be the one to pick there ruler ! he was the man willing to let all of his clans men die before trying to make peace. Tobirama is jealous of Madara due to his connection with Hashirama and fears him due to what him and his clan are capable of when they go down the path of Hate.

Madara should have chose a better route rather than going EMO and evil. Madara is a bitter cry baby

 

[Dark Enemy]

Tobirama is the reason the Madara left, Madara is the reason the Uchiha lost more respect and started a rebel, The Uchiha is the reason they got massacred, The Massacre is the reason Sasuke is on a revenge path.

Tobirama is the main dot that started it all, however all the other dots are responsible for there own actions. However they wouldn't have made the choice they did if it hadn't been for Tobirama. Well that is my point of view at least.

Yea its a realistic point, I hope sasuke decide a important decision After hearing all the story