[Discussion] Luffy's new bounty

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They fought with Mihawk?

Nope. But they fought strong fighters.

The fact they got more screentime than the other commanders shows they're superior.

Ranking the commanders is something like this (not an exact list, I'll probably be wrong on a few, but Ace is very overrated, he's below Luffy by some distance now and was only appointed commander for his potential):
1. Marco
2. Vista/Jozu (Thatch?)
3. Vista/Jozu (Thatch?)
4. Vista/Jozu (Thatch?)
5. Izo/Fossa/Blenheim
6. Izo/Fossa/Blenheim
7. Izo/Fossa/Blenheim
8. Ace
9. The rest
 

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Nope. But they fought strong fighters.

The fact they got more screentime than the other commanders shows they're superior.

Ranking the commanders is something like this (not an exact list, I'll probably be wrong on a few, but Ace is very overrated, he's below Luffy by some distance now and was only appointed commander for his potential):
1. Marco
2. Vista/Jozu (Thatch?)
3. Vista/Jozu (Thatch?)
4. Vista/Jozu (Thatch?)
5. Izo/Fossa/Blenheim
6. Izo/Fossa/Blenheim
7. Izo/Fossa/Blenheim
8. Ace
9. The rest

Ace got more screentime than them though. The only strong person they fought was Akainu, and that was with help from the other commanders.
 

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Ace got more screentime than them though. The only strong person they fought was Akainu, and that was with help from the other commanders.

Only because of his relation to Luffy and the fact the entire battle was an attempt to save/execute him.
 

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Only because of his relation to Luffy and the fact the entire battle was an attempt to save/execute him.

So there's no reason to believe that Ace isn't stronger than them since his screentime can't be used as a basis for strength.
 

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So there's no reason to believe that Ace isn't stronger than them since his screentime can't be used as a basis for strength.

But Ace wasn't a new character. The rest were. The fact these guys were highlighted more than others demonstrates their superiority. Kinda like how Oda focused more on Bartolomeo, Bellamy, Chinjao and Cavendish over the likes of Abdullah, Jeet, Logan, Dagama etc.
 

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But Ace wasn't a new character. The rest were. The fact these guys were highlighted more than others demonstrates their superiority. Kinda like how Oda focused more on Bartolomeo, Bellamy, Chinjao and Cavendish over the likes of Abdullah, Jeet, Logan, Dagama etc.

So what if he wasn't a new character? How does that make him weaker than them?
 

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So what if he wasn't a new character? How does that make him weaker than them?
Make your mind up, are you wa.nking over Luffy or Ace?

Because he got Oneshotted by an Admiral. Said Admiral took 10 days to defeat Kuzan. Said latter Admiral couldn't oneshot Jozu, and in fact required him to be distracted. This therefore means:

Sakazuki>Kuzan>Doflamingo>Jozu>>>>>>Ace

And considering at least two other commanders could fight Admirals and similar caliber fighters too, there must be a bridge in the Gap, and Ace certainly isn't that as he gets OS'd.
 

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Make your mind up, are you wa.nking over Luffy or Ace?

Because he got Oneshotted by an Admiral. Said Admiral took 10 days to defeat Kuzan. Said latter Admiral couldn't oneshot Jozu, and in fact required him to be distracted. This therefore means:

Sakazuki>Kuzan>Doflamingo>Jozu>>>>>>Ace

And considering at least two other commanders could fight Admirals and similar caliber fighters too, there must be a bridge in the Gap, and Ace certainly isn't that as he gets OS'd.

You mean the admiral that had elemental advantage over him? Marco>Jozu>Vista~Luffy>Zoro>Ace>other commanders.
 

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All what is certain is that he'd break the 550Millions barrier. Probably in between 550-600Millions at the absolute most though. Not more than that
 

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All what is certain is that he'd break the 550Millions barrier. Probably in between 550-600Millions at the absolute most though. Not more than that

Cavendish said the alliance will become the eye of the storm after this, so it should be 600 million. Also, Cavendish will probably try to join the alliance for attention.
 

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Cavendish said the alliance will become the eye of the storm after this, so it should be 600 million. Also, Cavendish will probably try to join the alliance for attention.
Doflamingo is the most influencial broker from the underworld and his main client is Kaido in the smile market. We didn't need Cavendish to know what the consequences of defeating Doflamingo would have been when we saw how much influence he had in the world. He provided weapons in war.

Even at the beginning of Dressrosa(when people thought he resigned his title of shichibukai), we were seeing countries in war, crying around Doflamingo's decision, wondering who would provide them weapons now to defeat the enemy. Though it's not necessarily power wise, but his influence in the world is that great. Law even said that at least 2times(when he threatened him to resign his shichibukai title or on the bridge). So this chapter didn't provided an info i didn't know already

Doesn't mean however that Luffy's bounty should automatically break the 600Millions record and leaving Kid's bounty in the dust
 

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Are you serious? Luffy can beat every WH commander excluding Marco, Jozu, and maybe Vista.

lol. You need to calm down. No way Luffy is beating Marco or Jozu or even Vista (someone I consider to be as strong as Hawkeyes )
 

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lol. You need to calm down. No way Luffy is beating Marco or Jozu or even Vista (someone I consider to be as strong as Hawkeyes )

I said he can't beat them, and no, Vistas definitely isn't at Mihawk level.
 
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