Lol thanks for the laugh. Luffy beats him mid-high diff.Lets clarify, he isnt aces level yet. Hes close but not just yet.
Lol thanks for the laugh. Luffy beats him mid-high diff.Lets clarify, he isnt aces level yet. Hes close but not just yet.
Or Fossa, Izo, Blenheim...Are you serious? Luffy can beat every WH commander excluding Marco, Jozu, and maybe Vista.
Those fodders get low diffed. What feats do they even have?Or Fossa, Izo, Blenheim...
Just as many as VistaThose fodders get low diffed. What feats do they even have?
Nope. But they fought strong fighters.They fought with Mihawk?
whatever you say dudeLol thanks for the laugh. Luffy beats him mid-high diff.
Perfect example of why the Ace fanbase is one of the worst fanbases on NB.whatever you say dude
Ace got more screentime than them though. The only strong person they fought was Akainu, and that was with help from the other commanders.Nope. But they fought strong fighters.
The fact they got more screentime than the other commanders shows they're superior.
Ranking the commanders is something like this (not an exact list, I'll probably be wrong on a few, but Ace is very overrated, he's below Luffy by some distance now and was only appointed commander for his potential):
1. Marco
2. Vista/Jozu (Thatch?)
3. Vista/Jozu (Thatch?)
4. Vista/Jozu (Thatch?)
5. Izo/Fossa/Blenheim
6. Izo/Fossa/Blenheim
7. Izo/Fossa/Blenheim
8. Ace
9. The rest
Only because of his relation to Luffy and the fact the entire battle was an attempt to save/execute him.Ace got more screentime than them though. The only strong person they fought was Akainu, and that was with help from the other commanders.
So there's no reason to believe that Ace isn't stronger than them since his screentime can't be used as a basis for strength.Only because of his relation to Luffy and the fact the entire battle was an attempt to save/execute him.
But Ace wasn't a new character. The rest were. The fact these guys were highlighted more than others demonstrates their superiority. Kinda like how Oda focused more on Bartolomeo, Bellamy, Chinjao and Cavendish over the likes of Abdullah, Jeet, Logan, Dagama etc.So there's no reason to believe that Ace isn't stronger than them since his screentime can't be used as a basis for strength.
So what if he wasn't a new character? How does that make him weaker than them?But Ace wasn't a new character. The rest were. The fact these guys were highlighted more than others demonstrates their superiority. Kinda like how Oda focused more on Bartolomeo, Bellamy, Chinjao and Cavendish over the likes of Abdullah, Jeet, Logan, Dagama etc.
Make your mind up, are you wa.nking over Luffy or Ace?So what if he wasn't a new character? How does that make him weaker than them?
You mean the admiral that had elemental advantage over him? Marco>Jozu>Vista~Luffy>Zoro>Ace>other commanders.Make your mind up, are you wa.nking over Luffy or Ace?
Because he got Oneshotted by an Admiral. Said Admiral took 10 days to defeat Kuzan. Said latter Admiral couldn't oneshot Jozu, and in fact required him to be distracted. This therefore means:
Sakazuki>Kuzan>Doflamingo>Jozu>>>>>>Ace
And considering at least two other commanders could fight Admirals and similar caliber fighters too, there must be a bridge in the Gap, and Ace certainly isn't that as he gets OS'd.
Cavendish said the alliance will become the eye of the storm after this, so it should be 600 million. Also, Cavendish will probably try to join the alliance for attention.All what is certain is that he'd break the 550Millions barrier. Probably in between 550-600Millions at the absolute most though. Not more than that
Doflamingo is the most influencial broker from the underworld and his main client is Kaido in the smile market. We didn't need Cavendish to know what the consequences of defeating Doflamingo would have been when we saw how much influence he had in the world. He provided weapons in war.Cavendish said the alliance will become the eye of the storm after this, so it should be 600 million. Also, Cavendish will probably try to join the alliance for attention.
lol. You need to calm down. No way Luffy is beating Marco or Jozu or even Vista (someone I consider to be as strong as Hawkeyes )Are you serious? Luffy can beat every WH commander excluding Marco, Jozu, and maybe Vista.
I said he can't beat them, and no, Vistas definitely isn't at Mihawk level.lol. You need to calm down. No way Luffy is beating Marco or Jozu or even Vista (someone I consider to be as strong as Hawkeyes )