[Discussion] Luffy Vs Zoro
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Mephew D Kensei
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Luffy wins maybe but kid not yoselves this wld b extreme diff and the Zoro said he wld never follow a cap he cld beat is taking things out of context dude just said if the cap cldnt at least knock a few fishman out they wld have to find another cap who can(hahaha).
Uzumaki Edwin
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i think its a stalemate because puffy s pretty damn strong, but so is zoro then again luffs is really fast and armament haki, but zoro has swords luffys weakness it wouldn't be a short fight nonetheless.
Swords are Luffy's weakness? isn't he just as 'weak' to swords as regular people ?
The only thing Luffy has is a good defense vs blunt attacks, but that doesn't make swords his weakness.
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Of course Zoro is not stronger. He is, as of right now, equal to Luffy. Based on pre T.S, since Post T.S lacks feats, we'll see how this plays out now. The 'Luffy is stronger' by a mile/slightly etc, all arguments are based mainly on the thing that he is the captain,, which is a good for nothing reason. No matter what feats or hints we get, since he is the captain, this common idea will never change.
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hahahaha Lol Zoro never said that, he said if luffy couldnt use haki he would have to step down as captain
and who says just cause you are the main character tou have to be the strongest? I can give you a list of main characters who arent the strongest
OT: I think they are equal but from what I have seen in the fillers ( zoro v luffy) Zoro takes it... also after the outcome of Ussop V luffy
I think Zoro v Luffy goes to zoro without a doubt!
Avinash012
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I don't understand how it can be implied that Zoro said he won't follow someone weaker than him in that statement and I don't even understand how using kings would make Luffy stronger than Zoro when kings Haki is good for nothing against someone of Zoro's caliber.If u have any idea about how Luffy's kings haki would make him stronger than plz explain it to me.
About that main character being strongest statement,I don't remember saying that Luffy is the strongest character in OP and Iam definitely not mentally challenged to be unable understand a simple logic like that,here both Luffy and Zoro are main characters but Luffy has more importence and it is Luffy's role to remain as the strongest in the crew as he is the captain of SH's that is what Iam saying here.
You should be called the 1 who doesn't know.
Trying to base a Luffy vs Zoro outcome by the Ussop vs Luffy outcome are you for real? Fair enough due to the outcome of Zoro and Hordy and the outcome of Luffy and Hordy I'm going to say Luffy takes this. Also in that fight Luffy not only didn't use any of his gears and that was before the time skip.
Granted you don't have to be the strongest to be a main character but Luffy needs to become the strongest in order for him to protect whatever he wants.
Also counting fillers to try gauge the strength of two characters just leads to an ultimate fail because guess why there not Canon and for argument sake what feat has Zoro shown that surpass Luffy even in fillers? Luffy defeated an ex Admiral that feat alone is above anything Zoro has done in the fillers.
I mean I know not all Zoro fans are stupid but seriously do for those who are stupid enough to think Zoro is the strongest in the crew do you hear yourselves think at all? Seriously the small minority of Zorotards really need to stop being biased.
Who said we need to base it off of the fact that he's captain? Zoro's feats << Luffy's feats. Sorry but they are not equals, Luffy has built a gap that Zoro will never overcome, its not a humongous gap but a gap nonetheless. Luffy beats Zoro 10/10 times in a close battle every time.
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wait so now are you trying to call me stupid?
nwy my point is zoro and luffy are equal.......just like shanks & mihawk.
what most people fail to understand is that the author has designed the story this way for guys to fill in the blanks however they like but in reality they are actually equal.
No you WANT to see those blanks, and forcing to create parallels that aren't really there.
Just like shanks and Mihawk ? Just because they are friends and had some fights ? like that says anything about their levels, it's more likely that Shanks is stronger by a good margin
You think Shanks and Mihawk are equal due to the fact they sparred ages ago at an even level. It's obvious Shanks has more to his fighting abilities other than using a sword his Haki is boss and I'm willing to bet far greater than Mihawks. The fact Mihawk himself Luffy's goal was harder than Zoro's should have been the moment people realized Luffy would always be a little stronger than Zoro.
Actually the way the author has designed this story is to show exactly what Mihawk stated becoming the Pirate King is a lot harder than becoming the WGS and in extension should give us a good idea where the character are and will be later in strength.
Just for the goals part. That thing doesn't matter. We have a clear example from the manga itself which is of Roger and WB. Both were equal in strength despite having different goals. 'Family' was what whitebeard wanted. Roger wanted to Turn the world upside down. Obviously, this one is much harder to achieve than Whitebeards', still they were equal strength wise. The difference was that who accomplished more, which was Roger. Same in case of Luffy and Zoro.
Got any evidence for that claim ?
While you're at it also prove why you think that pre skip Zoro is equal to Luffy. Because pre-skip Zoro just barely won from Kaku with a doroki half that of Lucci. There was no way that Zoro could fight Lucci the way Luffy did. And in Thriller bark everybody was waiting for Luffy to finish the oz/moria fight because they even combined couldn't do it.
I take it as my goals part is proved.
To start with Kaku was a swordsman. Thing which isn't counted in doriki. Obviously he was much stronger than what the doriki(only physical power measurement) says. Moreover, Luffy after his fight with Lucci couldn't even move an inch, while Zoro was doing just fine. Luffy would've proven to be stronger had he defeated Lucci with the same diff Zoro defeated Kaku. Its clear Zoro vs Lucci would be only an increase in the level of difficulty.
Luffy dominated only due to 100 shadows. That is there to it. I don't think we are considering that power up here.
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this guy disagrees with absolutely everything you wrote connected to that line and that line of reasoning
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just because someone is a swordsman doesn't automatically mean you are stronger than a non swordsman, want some examples? ... Garp, Kizaru, Akainu, BB, Aokiji, Dragon, WB, Sengoku .... if being a sm made you automatically stronger by 2000 douriki (in the Kaku-Lucci exmaple) EVERY top level would pick up swordsmanship otherwise they would be stupid
btw from what we saw Kaku isn't even close to being close to Lucci level
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No, I wrote that because swordsman ship isn't counted into doriki and it was exclusive for Kaku. Kaku is weaker than Lucci and just because one is a swordsman doesn't mean that he is stronger than a non swordsman, True.. But what I said was only about Kaku's own strength level, as how doriki alone doesn't measure that.