[Discussion] Luffy vs Zoro in a battle
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The main difference between Law/Luffy/Zoro is feats. Law got the chance to fight at full power displaying all what he is capable of when Luffy and Zoro didn't, so obviously from a feat point of view, Law will seem more impressive. However portrayal-wise? I won't say that. The way it's portrayed suggest Doflamingo is strong enough to mid diff Law while Law can mid-high diff seat level candidates exactly where Zoro stands, so because of this i'm not completely certain between them. We all know however that Doflamingo will end up being defeated by Luffy. Even if it's very likely it will be a weakened Doflamingo, a weakened Doflamingo is still stronger than Law, so portrayal-wise Luffy should be stronger than Law.
Aren't u underestimating Luffy?
When people have a good enough haki Law's DF becomes practically useless and his physical strength is not that great either in comparison to monsters like Luffy or Zoro
The way I see it is Law the supernova with the most hax fruit has just been disposed of for the second time in a violent manner
Luffy will prove to be more of a match soon.. Are u saying u can't even tell that much?
The people who have been saying Luffy has an edge on the other SN because he trained 2 years with the former PK right hand will soon be proven right
Do u guys really think Oda would not take something like that into consideration ?
Well considering the only reason Luffy was even able to land a hit on Doflamingo was because of Law it's not hard to see Love Cook point.
But Luffy nor Zoro have shown feats good enough in Haki to prevent Law's cutting ability.
It's pointless to argue about this
Luffy hasn't shown any feats either that suggest he would not be fodderized by Doffy
But we all know (bar for some stubborn idiots) that Luffy is going to prove to be an even match for Doffy soon
alot of people here will be eating their words soon so honestly idc
I'm stupid real stupid
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Luffy and Zoro are in the same tier but Luffy is stronger...
Take the admirals for example,Akainu and Aokiji are in the same tier but Akainu is stronger or even in though the Yonko are the same tier,WB>BM
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Luffy with high diff.
Zoro was potentially stronger during East Blue and beginning of Alabasta saga, but that's questionable.
Zoro was potentially stronger during East Blue and beginning of Alabasta saga, but that's questionable.
Uzumaki Macho
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Law's out of the picture and Doflamingo is still in pretty good shape. Who else do you think is going to finish off Doflamingo?
Hmm I still think Luffy will get help from Law. I seriously doubt Law is out of this fight considering his back story and his connection with Doflamingo.
I wouldn't say that...I mean Luffy's shown speed feats that suggest he would be able to at least match Doflamingo in that aspect. At the end of the day I know Luffy is going to beat Doflamingo but he's not going to do it alone in this 1 v 1 people are fantasizing about because fact is with Law's interference already you couldn't call it that anymore.
It's not pointless to argue either I'm just right until proven wrong I get that...but Luffy isn't even with Doflamingo he's either equal or a little bit weaker than Law due to fighting styles and like I've said ever since the beginning of this arc it's going to be Luffy and Law that take down Doflamingo not just one of them.
You hope he's out of the picture...there's a big difference than him actually being out of it.
The majority here thought he'd be out of the picture right from the start...but he wasn't.
He still has one arm and as if my memory serves me right it only takes one arm to open a room. As I explained above Law is a rival to Luffy he's not just going to sideline in a fight against possibly the person he hates most in the world.
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Uzumaki Macho
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Law took 3 bullet shots, getting skewered by Doflamingo, and had his arm ripped off. I think it's safe to say that he's not going to be doing and fighting anymore in this arc.
Law having a connection with Doflamingo is not a good enough reason for Law to come back into the fight. Luffy always defeats enemies that other people have more of a connection with. For example:
1. The mayor from Orange Town didn't beat Buggy
2. Usopp didn't beat Kuro
3.Nami didn't beat Arlong
4. Chopper didn't beat Wapol
5. Vivi didn't beat Crocodile
6. Wiper didn't beat Enel
7. Lola didn't beat Moriah
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DD can gives Admiral/Yonkou level guys Mid diff fight and Law and Luffy have to work together to defeat him with Luffy doing the greatest job against a weakened Doffy(continuing the fight alone)
First thing Luffy will need to do is surpass DD(which may happen in the following arc or so)
I assume by the end of Next Saga (1 or 2 Small arcs and 1 big arc probably Wano) Luffy will surpass DD and become strong enough to give mid diff fight to Top tiers himself.
I think we will probably have Kiado arc after that because by that time Luffy and Law together will be able to give high to extreme diff fight to Kiado. Though I believe Drake will join at some point and Luffy/Law/Drake will beat Kaido.
Kaido fight will make Luffy a Top tier (becoming stronger after a tough fight and all).
Luffy was stabbed in the stomach, dehydrated and poisoned yet still beat Crocodile...Law removed those bullets...you may think it's safe to assume but you know...only Oda knows what's going to happen.
All the people you listed there weren't Luffy's rivals Law is a significant rival to Luffy and a pirate who is equally as powerful as him possibly even stronger. Maybe if Law was joining the crew or was tiers below Luffy your theory would be plausible but in this situation it makes far more sense for Law to play a more significant part in Doflamingo's downfall.
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Luffy beats zoro more often than not. Luffy is faster, as strong if not stronger, with better haki. Zoro is more durable and swords are luffy's biggest weakness. But haki will make sure luffy can tank zoro's attack
Jimbe has better connection with Hody than Luffy.Yet he was defeated by Luffy. Jimbe isn't tiers below Luffy.
Law is in no shape to fight and even if he continues to fight it wouldn't be much of a help for Luffy means that it'll be Luffy that'll play a bigger part which would automatically put him above Law.
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I believe that Luffy will show us, that he is better than SN that not special trained before going to NW. And for sure Luffy will beat Doffy by himself, he don't need someone to assist him. I think, this cover (Luffy holding Law's sword) can become basis that Luffy hold Law's pride to beat Doffy.
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