Elite Executive is the highest rank after Dolfamingo himself...not to mention Vergo wasn't an Elite Executive at the time when Pica was called that. Vergo was Doflamingo's right hand man, his oldest friend and the first Corazon I think Vergo's position is solidly proven to be the second strongest in the crew.
[Discussion] Luffy vs Doflamingo Fight
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Being the first corazon doesnt mean anything. The seat doesnt determine your strength. Look at Rosinante, he was a Corazon too but he wasnt that strong.
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The way i look at it, if Law couldn't defeat Doflamingo wehn he had hte chances earlier hwen he was far better health wise, there's no way in hell he's defeating him now. That would be PIS to a ridiculous amount. Law's already half dead, I already find it odd that Law's been able to do his moves when just about all his stamina's gone and he's practically a dead man on his feet.
I'm expecting Law to get his ass handed to him shortly after the flashback is finished.
One thing you guys haven't mentioned is CoC. I'm actually expecting Luffy to use his CoC as a physical attack, similar to how Shanks was able to break apart WB's ship and Rayleigh was able to break Camie's slave collar, though I don't think the latter was confirmed to be CoC, I feel like it was strongly hinted at that. I'm expecting Luffy to use his CoC to break some of DD's strings to take away some of his moves.
In regards physical strength and all that, remember, Luffy hasn't gone fully body G2 yet for whatever reason. We still haven't seen the best Luffy has to offer in that regard, and we haven't seen any G3 from Luffy either. It's not as if Luffy's thrown everything he has at DD and has still failed. in regards to a possible G4 or other new tech, I'm not sure.
But in regards to the overall impact of the story, I'm of the mindset that if Luffy doesn't have the capability to solo DD, then he should pack the **** up and go home. There are far stronger people than DD in the NW, and if Luffy can't do this on his own, then there's no way in hell he can defeat yonko and admirals and other strong opponents we've yet to meet. I think it would be detrimental if Luffy doesn't have the capability of doing this on his own. And I'm talking about capability. It's arguable that even if Law gets immediately wrecked after the flashback, that the battle would be considered a solo victory wen Luffy wins. But that's not the point, it's whether or not had Luffy gone 1 on 1 from the beginning, if he'd be able to defeat DD. I really think Luffy has to have that capability, otherwise he'll never get to PK level. Don't forget the amount of story we have left, which is a little over 400 chapters, so he has to become PK level in a relatively short amount of time, especially since major arcs tend to be 50 or so chapters long.
I'm anxious to get the flashback over with so we can go back to real time.
I'm expecting Law to get his ass handed to him shortly after the flashback is finished.
One thing you guys haven't mentioned is CoC. I'm actually expecting Luffy to use his CoC as a physical attack, similar to how Shanks was able to break apart WB's ship and Rayleigh was able to break Camie's slave collar, though I don't think the latter was confirmed to be CoC, I feel like it was strongly hinted at that. I'm expecting Luffy to use his CoC to break some of DD's strings to take away some of his moves.
In regards physical strength and all that, remember, Luffy hasn't gone fully body G2 yet for whatever reason. We still haven't seen the best Luffy has to offer in that regard, and we haven't seen any G3 from Luffy either. It's not as if Luffy's thrown everything he has at DD and has still failed. in regards to a possible G4 or other new tech, I'm not sure.
But in regards to the overall impact of the story, I'm of the mindset that if Luffy doesn't have the capability to solo DD, then he should pack the **** up and go home. There are far stronger people than DD in the NW, and if Luffy can't do this on his own, then there's no way in hell he can defeat yonko and admirals and other strong opponents we've yet to meet. I think it would be detrimental if Luffy doesn't have the capability of doing this on his own. And I'm talking about capability. It's arguable that even if Law gets immediately wrecked after the flashback, that the battle would be considered a solo victory wen Luffy wins. But that's not the point, it's whether or not had Luffy gone 1 on 1 from the beginning, if he'd be able to defeat DD. I really think Luffy has to have that capability, otherwise he'll never get to PK level. Don't forget the amount of story we have left, which is a little over 400 chapters, so he has to become PK level in a relatively short amount of time, especially since major arcs tend to be 50 or so chapters long.
I'm anxious to get the flashback over with so we can go back to real time.
We haven't seen Rosinante's strength yet...not to mention my point was more in regard to how the Corazon seat is more special than the rest. I mean Doflamingo's first Corazon was his oldest friend, the second was his brother and the third was going to be Law.
According to Doffy's brother he said those of the inner circle, and then he mentioned Vergo.
Vergo wasn't labelled the elite officer back then either, it was the same time where Peeka was named the highest overall.
Vergo's a close subordinate of Doffy, but his rank isn't higher than Peeka.
The Corzan title is the most expendable title seen so far.
Vergo wasn't even VA yet when joining G-5, most likely didn't have Haki either.
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You're actually incorrect. Here's the Viz, aka official and most accurate, translation.
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What was actually said was "The four officers, including me and Vergo."
I feel like there is a punctuation error in the sentence though. It should be "The four officers, including me, and Vergo", which would make more sense because Vergo is no longer an officer, so there's four currently, while the previous sentence's punctuation would mean that there are five.
Anyways, what this means is that the four officers aren't more special than Vergo or anything, there is no mention of any inner circle. Besides, if only the inner circle knew about it, but Vergo knew about it, then that'd just mean he was on the same level of trust and significance to Doflamingo as them anyways, so every way you slice it, you still get back to Vergo being of equal rank.