[VS] Luffy takes a WB division commander gauntlet

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1. Ace
2. Vista
3. Jozu
4. Marco

Scenario 1:no heals
Scenario 2: heals after every fight.

In my opinion, in scenario 1, Luffy beats Ace at the high end of mid diff/low end of high diff (aka mid-high diff) and then Luffy loses to Vista mid-high diff since he is weakened. For scenario 2, Luffy beats Ace mid-high diff, he beats Vista high-extreme diff, he ties with Jozu, and he loses to Marco high diff.
 

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Scenario 2:
Luffy vs Vista, Vista has no chance, he gets rag dolled during G4. Luffy high diff.

Luffy vs Ace, Luffy has shown resistance to fire to some extent, so I think he'd take this fight high+ diff.

Luffy vs Jozu, I don't know how much Jozu has weakened without his arm, but Jozu wins, he looks like he could outlast G4, he's very durable and he should have great endurance. Jozu high+ diff.

Luffy vs Marco, Marco mid diff. G4 gives Marco lots of trouble, but he outlasts.
 

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Oda says luffy beats all high diff and becomes pirate king
 

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Scenario 2:
Luffy vs Vista, Vista has no chance, he gets rag dolled during G4. Luffy high diff.

Luffy vs Ace, Luffy has shown resistance to fire to some extent, so I think he'd take this fight high+ diff.

Luffy vs Jozu, I don't know how much Jozu has weakened without his arm, but Jozu wins, he looks like he could outlast G4, he's very durable and he should have great endurance. Jozu high+ diff.

Luffy vs Marco, Marco mid diff. G4 gives Marco lots of trouble, but he outlasts.

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Loses to Vista around med-dif in S1 and around med-high S2.
 

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Luffy losing to Vista mid-high diff? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Instead of laughing actually reply to it. If I was to laugh at anything questionable you said in this section that would be the only thing I would have time to do on this site.
 

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Instead of laughing actually reply to it. If I was to laugh at anything questionable you said in this section that would be the only thing I would have time to do on this site.

Luffy pushed Doffy to high-extreme diff, so saying that Vista, who is weaker than Doffy, can beat Luffy mid-high diff makes no sense.
 

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Luffy pushed Doffy to high-extreme diff, so saying that Vista, who is weaker than Doffy, can beat Luffy mid-high diff makes no sense.

When did it become FACT that Vista is weaker than Doffy :lmao: You actually reply and then you push out your opinion like it's fact.
 

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When did it become FACT that Vista is weaker than Doffy :lmao: You actually reply and then you push out your opinion like it's fact.
Doffy has better feats, portrayal, and hype than Vista.
 

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Doffy has better feats, portrayal, and hype than Vista.

Doffy's best feats consist of beating an injured Law and somewhat keeping up wit G4 Luffy while both parties were injured. As for portrayal I don't see how he's portrayed above Vista at all and as the hype it really doesn't matter when he trumps Doffy in the other two.

Vista has literally stalemated at top tier the latter who called off the confrontation, while his portrayal off that puts Vista near the top tiers, unlike DD which is the damn opposite.
 

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S1: Loses to Vista
S2 : Loses to Jozu

Not 100% sure on the diff.
 

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scenario 1
doesnt get passed vista

scenario 2 same thing

simply the commanders i rank along with doffy (tho i see doffy being stronger then all of them bar marco) so if luffy doesnt have a law like calibur character helping him i dont see him taking out someone who stalemated world strongest man...


i rank doffy and the commanders

marco
doffy
jozu
vista
ace


just food for thought i also rank kuma (with a brain) and ivankov on this level as well


Edit: meant world strongest swordsmen
 
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Scenario 2:
Luffy vs Vista, Vista has no chance, he gets rag dolled during G4. Luffy high diff.

Luffy vs Ace, Luffy has shown resistance to fire to some extent, so I think he'd take this fight high+ diff.

Luffy vs Jozu, I don't know how much Jozu has weakened without his arm, but Jozu wins, he looks like he could outlast G4, he's very durable and he should have great endurance. Jozu high+ diff.

Luffy vs Marco, Marco mid diff. G4 gives Marco lots of trouble, but he outlasts.

When did Jozu lose an arm? Are we reading the same manga?
 

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Doffy's best feats consist of beating an injured Law and somewhat keeping up wit G4 Luffy while both parties were injured. As for portrayal I don't see how he's portrayed above Vista at all and as the hype it really doesn't matter when he trumps Doffy in the other two.

Vista has literally stalemated at top tier the latter who called off the confrontation, while his portrayal off that puts Vista near the top tiers, unlike DD which is the damn opposite.

No doffy best feats r
Defeating law
Keeping up with gear 4th after having his organs busted
Having awakening
Breaking out of akojji ice (something only whitebeard has shown)
Toying with Jozu body (yes all he did was immobilize him but do u think Jozu liked having doffy sitting on him ...)
Negging Sanji
All of the durability feats including having all of his external organs explode at once yet having reaction speed to immediately sew them intact
Having his birdcage be able to hold off 1,000s of warriors etc.. That including zoro an admiral Barto etc
Neg diffing smoker
Challenging an admiral
Incapacitating a giant
Stating he doesn't fear the admirals (in which added to ' further to Kaido's hype )
Having a former fleet admiral highly respected vice admiral and another admiral in addition to a buster call all to escort him to impel down ...
Not to mention kaido sent one of his top 3 men to get him back etc

I honestly don't understand why ppl seem like doffy is weak as shit... I mean I know he's not strongest but his hype feats etc easily gives him the capabilities to be the first mate of a yonko

Or an abnormal vice admiral like vergo garp old lady etc

Nd yes like the commanders he along with them r the closest thing to admiral level without being an admiral... Because all of them can push an admrial to at least mid diff and def able to stall an admrial
 
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Maybe not.

I remember that scene but i was under the impression he is still okay.
We have seen whitebeard and doflamingo survive the freeze. But i digress.

Pretty sure its one of those scenes where the anime is inconsistent . Like when nami bashes luffy, afterwards his fine.
 

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No doffy best feats r
Defeating law

Beating an injured Law who had already fought DD and Fujitora prior, any top tier should handily beat Law.


Keeping up with gear 4th after having his organs busted

Luffy isn't a full-fledged Top Tier and he was injured, again an impressive feat but not that impressive.

Having awakening

Is this a feat now?

Breaking out of akojji ice (something only whitebeard has shown)

Impressive but Kuzan himself wasn't trying to kill DD hence he wasn't frozen to the bone.


Toying with Jozu body (yes all he did was immobilize him but do u think Jozu liked having doffy sitting on him ...)

Jozu was caught off guard.
Negging Sanji


Impressive but any top WB commander should be capable of that.



All of the durability feats including having all of his external organs explode at once yet having reaction speed to immediately sew them intact


How sewing your wounds together a reaction feat?



Cba to reply to the rest of this shit, DD is strong, just not stronger than Vitsa.
 
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