[Discussion] Luffy takes a MF gauntlet

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Pheasant back gets casually trashed by Zoro or Luffy or even Sanji. It's not even Funny. Going against Gravity by all means is a lot hard to deal with than melting Ice.



OT:Luffy definitely can't win against Jozu, Mingo and Marco. I am not sure about Vista.
This post actually made me laugh. This is a named Admiral attack...its not just a block of regular ice being thrown at you lol.....
 

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This post actually made me laugh. This is a named Admiral attack...its not just a block of regular ice being thrown at you lol.....

What if it's a named attack? Where is your proof suggesting that it can't be broken or cut down? Before you laugh too hard; I ask of you to do so after providing a real argument.
 
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What if it's a named attack? Where is your proof suggesting that it can't be broken or cut down? Before you laugh too hard; I ask of you to do so after providing a real argument.
Who said it cant be broken or cut down lol? But it has to be the right person to be able to do it.

The force behind it along with Kuzans haki should make that attack formidable. Point is...its not just a regular block of ice.

So going by your logic all of Aokijis ranged attacks are for fodder because theyre all just going to be ice? Thats why he's aimed his partisans at WB right?
 
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AOE actually can correlate to power. We have no other measure to go by when it comes to how strong Aokiji's attacks are.
Jozu[ ]
Doffy[ ]

Despite being directly applied in Jozu's case, there isn't any difference on the ice covering their bodies. The ice affecting a greater area indicates more power in the one used on Doffy, as it is the same ability in both cases. At the very least, the attacks were even, and that still plays in Doffy's favor. Either Doffy broke out of an attack that is equal to the one that defeated Jozu, or he broke out of the one that is stronger. Either way, Doffy is portrayed as above Jozu.
AoE doesn't correlate to power directly especially when some of Kuzan's named attacks have smaller AoE than his flash freeze.


Again if a attack is directly channelled into it's going to stronger than one which is literally just spread out everywhere. Again as a said the why would the Aoe of a attack which directly channels ice into your opponent be larger than a attack which seemingly flash freezes a whole area? In fact Kuzan's named attacked such as ice time have a a lot smaller AoE and all need directly touch to work. Doffy broke out a attack which was weaker than Jozu took and wasn't confident enough to fight Kuzan at all while Jozu fought evenly with him off panel.
 

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Who said it cant be broken or cut down lol? But it has to be the right person to be able to do it.

The force behind it along with Kuzans haki should make that attack formidable. Point is...its not just a regular block of ice.

So going by your logic all of Aokijis ranged attacks are for fodder because theyre all just going to be ice? Thats why he's aimed his partisan's at WB right?
When the discussion is about Zoro, Luffy and Sanji then obviously I was talking about Zoro/Luffy/ Sanji not being able to cut/break it. When did Aokiji combined haki with his attack? I certainly don't remember it. Yes, it's nothing more than regular Ice no matter how badly you look at it. Who said that his attacks are fodder level? Any mortal gets effected by Ice so Whitebeard isn't an exception. If he were to get hit by the attack then he'd be affected by it.
 
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