[Spoilers] luffy and zoro

[sexyprep1]

i say luffy's above vice admiral and very close to admiral level atm...i would like to see him take down magma brat,


strongest pirates in the new world? how many of them have we been shown? the admirals dont rule the new world..the emperors do. whitebeard was stronger than the admirals by far..he snapped ice guy in one move, magma brat got a beat down that he'l never forget, the light guy havn't seen in action since marco jumped in but if marco>light guy than obviousli whitebeard shits on him...all this was in the middle of a war
thats why the government employs 7 mercenaries to maintain that power balance.
more reasons to consider
1.also hodi in his steroid form is stronger than a vice-admiral i'd say luffy took him down with one punch under water...
2.out of the supernovas luffy was most probably the strongest before timeskip..the only reason the others had higher bounty is b'cuz they are more ruthless, and dont forget the governement hid the fact luffy took down the warlords (it would cause embarrassment for the government)..realistically speaking his bounty should have been higher.
3.none of the other supernovas were being trained by the likes of dark king, mihawk, ivankov (possible spelling error) and so on...so ovbiosuly their growth would be A LOT more than rest of the supernova's

me to i hate akainu with a passion

 

[aashish1996]

I completely agree with this post.

On a further level of "underestimating the admirals"; you guys don't seem to realize that those 3 are the epitome of power and skills when it comes to their own devil fruit. If you think Luffy learned a lot and is very proefficient with his fruit, wait till we see what the admirals can do.

We were given hints at their powers, but we didn't get to actually see much creativity yet. Only Logia being Logia. I'm pretty sure we'll they have some plenty of wicked move that they only use when they're facing strong enemies in 1v1. There were too many factors at Marine HQ that kept them from going all out (friendly fire and destroying the island as to be on top).

Luffy is still faaaaar from the top, but he'll get there

Why would the admirals hold back when they are fighting the strongest pirates in the world? Who was stronger than the "world's strongest man" back when the war of the best started?

To make another point, I think you are underestimating luffy and zoro. We saw what the admirals were capable of but we still haven't seen what luffy and zoro are capable of. Luffy only struggled because luffy and hodi were battling in ocean and you should know what that means for luffy and hodi.

 

[aashish1996]

i say luffy's above vice admiral and very close to admiral level atm...i would like to see him take down magma brat,


strongest pirates in the new world? how many of them have we been shown? the admirals dont rule the new world..the emperors do. whitebeard was stronger than the admirals by far..he snapped ice guy in one move, magma brat got a beat down that he'l never forget, the light guy havn't seen in action since marco jumped in but if marco>light guy than obviousli whitebeard shits on him...all this was in the middle of a war
thats why the government employs 7 mercenaries to maintain that power balance.
more reasons to consider
1.also hodi in his steroid form is stronger than a vice-admiral i'd say luffy took him down with one punch under water...
2.out of the supernovas luffy was most probably the strongest before timeskip..the only reason the others had higher bounty is b'cuz they are more ruthless, and dont forget the governement hid the fact luffy took down the warlords (it would cause embarrassment for the government)..realistically speaking his bounty should have been higher.
3.none of the other supernovas were being trained by the likes of dark king, mihawk, ivankov (possible spelling error) and so on...so ovbiosuly their growth would be A LOT more than rest of the supernova's

I like this guy . He sumed up exactly what I said (I read this post after I posted my comment)

 

[Boa Hancock]

It's always Luffy and Zoro. Where's Sanji?

 

[sexyprep1]

It's always Luffy and Zoro. Where's Sanji?

ik i think hes strong in all but its just different because zoro was luffys first mate like rayleigh was rogers first mate

 

[Boa Hancock]

ik i think hes strong in all but its just different because zoro was luffys first mate like rayleigh was rogers first mate

And the unnamed Bronze of Roger's crew isn't Sanji's parallel too since Sanji is just a cook and nothing else.

Well alright, carry on.

 

[sexyprep1]

And the unnamed Bronze of Roger's crew isn't Sanji's parallel too since Sanji is just a cook and nothing else.

Well alright, carry on.

lol no i feel every single strawhat is gonna play a important role since luffys crew isnt huge like rogers or wb i feel its more intimate with less people everyone is important and strong in there on way

 

[omkara]

yea i dont think he could beat them easily white bird couldnt even beat them easy he still owned them though but not easy at all it makes since they are at the tippy top when it comes to power thats why there admirals

The ranking are different now. the old generation has walked away which brings in some new talent. And I think there will be some new faces in the positions of Admirals.
I also think there is a possibility that the world government is being led by two or more Fleet admirals like Sengoku. Since there has been new pirates around, the grand line must have been even more populated. I guess that the New World must be divided into jurisdiction and each admiral plays a pivotal role in holding onto their area.
So that makes them even more powerful and to predict Luffy able to beat them without heavy damage to himself can be rethinked!!!!

 

[sexyprep1]

The ranking are different now. the old generation has walked away which brings in some new talent. And I think there will be some new faces in the positions of Admirals.
I also think there is a possibility that the world government is being led by two or more Fleet admirals like Sengoku. Since there has been new pirates around, the grand line must have been even more populated. I guess that the New World must be divided into jurisdiction and each admiral plays a pivotal role in holding onto their area.
So that makes them even more powerful and to predict Luffy able to beat them without heavy damage to himself can be rethinked!!!!

i have to disagree the time of sengokus era is over that woulbe be dumb if he was still fleet admiral the world goverment and the marines need a new younger person to represent this era and i would be surprised if akainu was the new fleet admiral even though sengoku recommened aojki

 

[Boa Hancock]

lol no i feel every single strawhat is gonna play a important role since luffys crew isnt huge like rogers or wb i feel its more intimate with less people everyone is important and strong in there on way

I know, it's a given. What I meant was that Zoro is getting too hyped, like a second Itachi when there are other characters out there who deserve the spotlight too.

 

[sexyprep1]

I know, it's a given. What I meant was that Zoro is getting too hyped, like a second Itachi when there are other characters out there who deserve the spotlight too.

yea so true i just have always liked zoros story how hard hes always trained and fought and even sometimes baring the burden for his crew and especially his captain like when kuma gave zoro all luffys pain one of the most epic moments in anime history in my opinion and im not saying the others havent had to work and struggle just as hard its just zoros story always gets me and his struggle to get to the top and be the number swords men is kinda like luffys goal to be the pirate king there kinda similar in a way

 

[omkara]

i have to disagree the time of sengokus era is over that woulbe be dumb if he was still fleet admiral the world goverment and the marines need a new younger person to represent this era and i would be surprised if akainu was the new fleet admiral even though sengoku recommened aojki

Even if Akainu become a fleet admiral, I do not see any new place for the remaining two admirals. It got to be a division of area and allotment of these regions rule left to the three admirals as they prove their worth in the war. It was already stated that Garp and Sengoku will train the newbies. So I predict a change in powers and we will be seeing new admirals/ subordinates under each Fleet admirals (Aokiji, Akainu and Kizaru)

 

[Jupiter]

Saying he's on admiral level is frankly retarded, even vice admiral level is a little out there. You guys are underrating the admirals and overrating luffy. Some of the strongest pirates in the new world practically pissed themselves just at the site of akaino, even blackbeard fled at the site of him with all those powerful allies who it's safe to say were probably as strong as luffy is now. He's definitely on shibukai(spelling) level, the only thing is you can't really classify shibukai as a level, since it seems they're all on different power levels.

Moria, was quite pathetic at his end, it seemed he couldn't even scratch doflamingo.
Crocodile, seems to be pretty strong, but a very obvious and exploitable weakness.
Hancock, seems to be extremely powerful, not quite the big 2 shibukai but still really strong.
Jinbei, Same as hancock.
Puma, before his cyborg upgrades I'd say he was level with jinbei, after them(even though he's been wiped) I'd have to give him an edge.
Hawkeyes/doflamingo, They seem to be on a "diffefrent level" more like admiral and emperor level, just but their act around emperors and admirals, they seem even more cocky than the others.

I'd say luffy is a little under vice admiral level, even though he'd put up a good fight against an admiral because of his haki usage, as displayed in recent chapters it still isn't all powerful, just because he can hit them with haki doesn't necessarily mean he can do a considerable amount of damage, even without their DF I'm sure the admirals are powerful, so even if he could hit them doesn't mean much, gives him a much better chance but doesn't mean much.

This post says it all.
Btw did you think the Admirals would just sit there doing nothing for 2 years? No they also train, they're all stronger than before (obviously) so I don't think Luffy and his crewmates are there yet (closer than ever before but still not enough)

 

[sexyprep1]

This post says it all.
Btw did you think the Admirals would just sit there doing nothing for 2 years? No they also train, they're all stronger than before (obviously) so I don't think Luffy and his crewmates are there yet (closer than ever before but still not enough)

me to agree with that post greatly and yours domflamigo and hawkeye really are more powerful then the rest and yea this isnt naruto here if luffy was strong enough to do that i would stop watching one piece oda would never do that there still so much in one piece to go luffys not in a rush hes enjoying every moment of it