[VS] Luffy and Zoro vs Jozu and Vista

OG sama

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Luffy rested for 10 mins. where doffy was on wrath for all the time. LUffy used a lot of help from lot of people. Doffy was still fine after getting so much punches from G4. Doffy used god thread is a proof that he had other attacks up in the sleeves. Do you really think that a person like him knows only 5 attacks(Birdcage,parasite,hawkstrings,god thread,overheat). if fight drags for little more he will surely use other attacks too.

Do you think after getting his ass smacked all around dressrosa he would be stupid enough to hold back? Use some damn logic.

He could have other attacks and they just wouldn't have been useful. Also he has way more than 5 attacks anyway.

The bottom line is God thread is his strongest attack, unless proven otherwise.

This is why you underrate G4, you think Doffy is stronger than he's presented.

The Doffy wank and the G4 underestimation needs to stop.
 

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Do you think after getting his ass smacked all around dressrosa he would be stupid enough to hold back? Use some damn logic.

He could have other attacks and they just wouldn't have been useful. Also he has way more than 5 attacks anyway.

The bottom line is God thread is his strongest attack, unless proven otherwise.

This is why you underrate G4, you think Doffy is stronger than he's presented.

The Doffy wank and the G4 underestimation needs to stop.

Sorry dude i can't agree with you on this. After all its lord doffy who got his ass whooped from 2 times G4 and that too with the help of a lot of hell characters.
 

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Sorry dude i can't agree with you on this. After all its lord doffy who got his ass whooped from 2 times G4 and that too with the help of a lot of hell characters.

Because of the time limit. If it never ran out at that moment, doffy would have been KO'ed.

It took a time limit for DD to even make a comeback, he was aware of the ass whooping he was receiving.

And lord doffy seriously?

This also doesn't prove he was holding anything back.
 

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Because of the time limit. If it never ran out at that moment, doffy would have been KO'ed.

It took a time limit for DD to even make a comeback, he was aware of the ass whooping he was receiving.

And lord doffy seriously?

This also doesn't prove he was holding anything back.

People call buggy, lord. So its still doffy!!!autoplay
 

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People call buggy, lord. So its still doffy!!!autoplay

True, but buggy is the man who will become Pirate king.

Only he deserves that title. =D
 

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WB veteran pirates who have been sailing on the strongest of seas for nearly two or over two decades

Man, you can't use this.

That kid defeated Arlong, veteran.
That kid defetaed Crocodile, veteran.
That kid defeated Enel, strongest being in the skies.
That kid defeated Moriah, veteran.
That kid defeated Lucci, veteran, strongest of the CP9.
That kid defeated Doflamingo, veteran. (Well not alone, but alone would put pretty good fight considering he is just a "kid")

And I could bring one more kid, Ace who fought draw with veteran, Jinbei.

Even if I draw paralel with other mangas, that ends the same.

Kids beat Kaguya, kids beat Obito, kids beat Akatsuki. (Naruto)
Kid beat Aizen, kid beat Ginjo, kid beat Byakuya. (Bleach)
Kids beat Mard Geer, kids beat Precht. (Fairy Tail)
Kid beat Demon King Piccolo, kid beat Tao Pai, kids beat Frieza's army. (Dragon Ball)
 

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Luffy and Zoro high diff surely? G4 helps here much.
 

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Vista will fodder luffy and zoro is not srtong either atm, so lets say vista solos. No need for backup jozu!!

lol this is sig worthy. Its up for grabs people.
 

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Jozu and Vista were fighting admirals in a war...They've obviously grown stronger in the 2 year time skip as well. This thread is something else...

Jozu and Vista mid diff
 

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WB commanders win Luffy couldnt even take down doffy by himself and Vista>Zoro even Mihawk showed him respect.
 

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Doubt Luffy has the firepower to break through diamond, let alone Haki enforced one. And when Mr. 1 asked Zoro "what's next, diamonds!??", Zoro replied "no need". Implying he wasn't going to learn how to cut through sheer diamond near future.

...And then there's Vista.

Zoro only said, 'That'd be a waste'. This doesn't mean that he couldn't cut through diamonds. He just doesn't seem interested then. During his fight with Pica, he said 'There's nothing on Earth I can't cut' b4 finishing Pica off. Doflamingo wasn't good enough to stop a rampaging Jozu pre-TS but still lost to Luffy despite getting stronger.
I'd choose Team 1
 
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