[Discussion] Luffy and zoro vs doflamingo and vergo

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What is stopping Doffy from parasiting zoro similar to Jozu who is physically stronger and munipulate him intobfighting luffy with vergo ?

.... Jozu is physically stronger then zoro and has better defense feats yet he was caught lol
 

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Yeah sure its all because of Law, the guy who just said last chapter that he wouldn't be able to look his crew in the eye again if he let Luffy defeat both Doflamingo and Trebol by himself, only after seeing Luffy trade blows with Doflamingo.

Clearly he disagrees.

There is no evidence that Law's attack so much as slowed Doflamingo down, it wasn't commented on and Doflamingo showed no further signs of pain or coughing up blood except when punched by Luffy and everyone does that after being punched hard, damage to internal organs or not.

And Doflamingo had Trebol's help in the fights against Luffy and Law, so clearly he needed an advantage as well, or did you forget that time that Luffy gave Doflamingo that punch after being moved by Law was because Doflamingo was using a person as a shield.


While Doflamingo is currently stronger than Luffy, Luffy has been keeping up even without Law.

And back to Pica and the main topic, the four executives are all at least rival powers and Zorro tore Pica apart, if he can do that he can defeat Vergo.

And in the scenario suggested by the first post, Luffy and Zorro together would shred Dolfamingo right after Zorro defeated Vergo.
It's because of their teamwork. Take Law out of the equation, Luffy would be decimated. Take Luffy out of the situation, Law would be decimated.

Yeah sure, getting your organs shredded apart isn't gonna slow you down whatsoever. Whatever you say.

He didn't need Trebol at all. Trebol has barely done anything in this fight.

Nope. It wasn't until Law hit Doffy with Gamma Knife that Luffy was able to even land a blow on Doffy on his own. Before that, Doffy was dodging all of his moves and beating him.

I disagree. Vergo was portrayed to be much stronger than Pica, so I don't think Zoro would defeat Vergo so easily.

Or Doflamingo restrains Zoro/takes control of him and defeats Luffy.
 

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Doflamingo can solo.

I don't see why Parasite stings can't control Zoro just as easy as they got Sanji. Zoro isn't even cutting Vergo not with his speed and durability. Law split and Island while Zoro cut a Huge structure.( )-( ).Going by size and structure these cuts shouldn't even be comparable. Also Doflamingo already made it clear that Law couldn't even cut Vergo before so that means even with the room which almost allows the user to accomplish any cutting feat he couldn't even do it. Doflamingo could also use clones to tag team Zoro.
 

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It's because of their teamwork. Take Law out of the equation, Luffy would be decimated. Take Luffy out of the situation, Law would be decimated.

Yeah sure, getting your organs shredded apart isn't gonna slow you down whatsoever. Whatever you say.

He didn't need Trebol at all. Trebol has barely done anything in this fight.

Nope. It wasn't until Law hit Doffy with Gamma Knife that Luffy was able to even land a blow on Doffy on his own. Before that, Doffy was dodging all of his moves and beating him.

I disagree. Vergo was portrayed to be much stronger than Pica, so I don't think Zoro would defeat Vergo so easily.

Or Doflamingo restrains Zoro/takes control of him and defeats Luffy.
All you do is make any speculation based on what makes Law look good.

There is no reason to believe that Vergo was vastly more powerful than any of the executives other than what you want to believe.

And it has been repetitively stated that the Executives are Doflamingo's strongest men.

And Pica was able to completely reshape the island, Zorro beat him using rapid mountain cutting slashes, that is beyond anything that Vergo ever showed, so there is more evidence that Pica is stronger than Vergo than otherwise.

Also Doflamingo wasn't using his King's Haki against Law and Luffy, until Luffy directly confronted him so he has been holding back.

Also its impossible to dodge at close range, Luffy and Doflamingo were nose to nose, so there is no reason to believe that Law's attack helped there other than, once again, your desire for Law to look good.


And most importantly the main villain never goes all out until the last chapter or two of the fight, so Doflamingo is still going to use his full power and best attacks against Luffy, and like always Luffy will overpower these attacks and beat him.

Or are you going to try to claim that we will never see Doflamingo go all out or that Law's attack was so powerful that Doflamingo will tip over any second and that the author will give us a cheap and anti-climatic ending solely to make Law look good.
 
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