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Yeah, I have yet to read the Novel fully.

Kind of reading Fate/Extra, Melty Blood and Grisaia no Kajitsu at the moment so I'll probably get around to reading the novel a bit later since I'm interested in more of Lio's characterization.
 

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His death was more graceful than Diamuird, that's for sure. Lancer Classes aren't being done justice. U_U
 

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AC really thinks that shiki ***** can take down gil :lol


He can beat one of the types as well I believe.
 

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AC really thinks that shiki ***** can take down gil :lol


He can beat one of the types as well I believe.

You know literally nothing about what Shiki is or KnK in general... Hope you know she can kill Ea and GoB or just reconstruct the universe and events so that Gilgamesh never had the Gate of Babylon to begin with... [] is Nasuverse's ''God'' and Ryougi Shiki's body is it's ''vessel'' of sorts.

And no. Gilgamesh can't beat an Aristoteles. His best chance is if the Aristoteles doesn't actually fight back.
 
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You know literally nothing about what Shiki is or KnK in general... Hope you know she can kill Ea and GoB or just reconstruct the universe and events so that Gilgamesh never had the Gate of Babylon to begin with... [] is Nasuverse's ''God'' and Ryougi Shiki's body is it's ''vessel'' of sorts.

And no. Gilgamesh can't beat an Aristoteles. His best chance is if the Aristoteles doesn't actually fight back.

He already beat one I believe :lol

Whatever reality she creates gets broken with EA, its a gift from the gods U_U Nasu Gods> Shiki's ability
 

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He already beat one I believe :lol

Do tell when.

Whatever reality she creates gets broken with EA, its a gift from the gods U_U Nasu Gods> Shiki's ability

...You clearly did not just understand what I told you.

Ea = object can be ''killed'' via MEoDP, as in wiped out of existence. Same goes for Ea's blasts or the air Ea creates around it.

Shiki's ability to recreate the universe = recreating Ea and Gilgamesh, too, meaning she can make it into normal sword or just never create it to begin with.

[] = actual omnipotent being, the GOD of Nasuverse, meaning whatever ''Gods'' gave Gilgamesh Ea are just divine spirits and are not even remotely close to [] in power.

Ea's reality breaking only applies to a single ''World''. It does not break the universe. Neither does it matter because the whole ''Ea can break reality'' ability it has is completely ''killable'' by Shiki, as in wiped out of existence. Or she can simply recreate the whole universe, including Ea and Gilgamesh and just make Ea some pathetic little knife or whatever [] wants to.
 
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Do tell when.



...You clearly did not just understand what I told you.

Ea = object can be ''killed'' via MEoDP, as in wiped out of existence. Same goes for Ea's blasts or the air Ea creates around it.

Shiki's ability to recreate the universe = recreating Ea and Gilgamesh, too, meaning she can make it into normal sword or just never create it to begin with.

[] = actual omnipotent being, the GOD of Nasuverse, meaning whatever ''Gods'' gave Gilgamesh Ea are just divine spirits and are not even remotely close to [] in power.

Ea's reality breaking only applies to a single ''World''. It does not break the universe. Neither does it matter because the whole ''Ea can break reality'' ability it has is completely ''killable'' by Shiki, as in wiped out of existence. Or she can simply recreate the whole universe, including Ea and Gilgamesh and just make Ea some pathetic little knife or whatever [] wants to.

There is obviously a catch to this shiki person's abilities, one that I just don't know about because I haven't seen it, maybe if the movies get a dub i'll watch it.




Her ability to deal with single opponents, "single entity ability", is roughly on the same level as Servants, so she has bad compatibility against those like Gilgamesh. Servants utilize Noble Phantasms, while she utilizes her backup, leading to differences depending on affinity. She can be called a "simple-is-best" fighter and an all rounder with high chances in most fights, but doesn't go well with those of high versatility. Gilgamesh has the "firepower" of over five Servants, but Arcueid is only able to draw strength based on "single entity ability." He has roughly the same statistics as her, but a large amount of weaponry to utilize against her, making her have horrible compatibility in such a fight.[19]

Arcueid Brunestud...wait a minute isn't this the main character of the ****ing V/N? Isn't this Shiki?
 

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There is obviously a catch to this shiki person's abilities, one that I just don't know about because I haven't seen it, maybe if the movies get a dub i'll watch it.

There IS a catch. I already said what it is in this thread.

The catch with Shiki is the fact that she isn't the one who I'm saying that can kill Gilgamesh. Ryougi Shiki is human and has absolutely no way of doing any kind of universe recreating or anything of the like. She can't keep up with Gilgamesh.

The thing is, however, that Ryougi Shiki was connected to Alaya - the ''Will of the World'' - at some point in KnK which made it possible for [] to exist inside Shiki as the space between her two personalities; her ''third personality''. [] isn't technically Shiki herself. It just lives inside her body and can control it, which makes it a ''third personality''. However, [] is an actual omnipotent existence.

[] - i.e. Shiki's ''third personality'' - is fully capable of killing Gilgamesh.

And the catch comes here. For [] to gain consciousness, it takes a certain ''waking up'' time period so it takes over Shiki's body. My whole ''[] can kill Gilgamesh'' statement comes from the assumption that we just ignore that ''waking up'' period and pit Gilgamesh against [].


Arcueid Brunestud...wait a minute isn't this the main character of the ****ing V/N? Isn't this Shiki?

No. Shiki Tohno and Arcueid Brunestud are different characters.

KnK Shiki which is the one we're talking about is also a completely different character.
 

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Team yuetsu and lancer watching the latest episode, now daz just beautiful.
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I'll only worship one Lancer.

[video=youtube;paMBMrpLl7w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paMBMrpLl7w[/video]
 
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