in terms of:
Story
The Quality of The Movie (director wise - storytelling)
Moment wise (uplifting, sad, touching, inspiring ... moments, speeches ...)
Acting
Digital Effects
Music
Environment
Built Set (non CG set)
Difficulty of the sole filming of the movie:
Story: LoTR has better story than Harry Potter you just have to live with it
The Quality of The Movie (director wise - storytelling): Peter Jackson is brilliant and certainly did a better job than the mess of all HP directors
Moment wise (uplifting, sad, touching, inspiring ... moments, speeches ...): LoTR (Aragorns speech, Theodens speech, Gandalf on death, Sams speech, last march of the Ents, I can carry you, Boromirs death ...) and HP has virtually nothing the best scene I think that would qualify for this category is the Aragog funeral (yes I like the movies but theyre for children they dont do big moments)
Acting: LoTR (McKellen, Mortensen, Wood, Astin, Boyd, Bloom, Serkis, Rhys-Davies, Monaghan, Bean, Tyler, ... all did a wonderful job)
Digital Effects: LoTR (I mean cmon!) WETA FTW!
Music: Howard Shore FTW ... also Into The West is awesome
Environment: hard to decide if it were New Zealand VS UK but going from what we actually see from the movies i ofc have to go with the Middle Earth its just beautiful)
Built Set (non CG set): LoTR ... they build large parts of Hels Deep, Minas Tirith, Rivendell, ... they build the whole Edoras, ... they build many many miniatures (which are actually quite big)
Difficulty of the sole filming of the movie: LoTR obviously some people actually worked for 7 years on that ... also its extremely hard to film 3 movies of this scale at once
Story: LoTR has better story than Harry Potter you just have to live with it
The Quality of The Movie (director wise - storytelling): Peter Jackson is brilliant and certainly did a better job than the mess of all HP directors
Moment wise (uplifting, sad, touching, inspiring ... moments, speeches ...): LoTR (Aragorns speech, Theodens speech, Gandalf on death, Sams speech, last march of the Ents, I can carry you, Boromirs death ...) and HP has virtually nothing the best scene I think that would qualify for this category is the Aragog funeral (yes I like the movies but theyre for children they dont do big moments)
Acting: LoTR (McKellen, Mortensen, Wood, Astin, Boyd, Bloom, Serkis, Rhys-Davies, Monaghan, Bean, Tyler, ... all did a wonderful job)
Digital Effects: LoTR (I mean cmon!) WETA FTW!
Music: Howard Shore FTW ... also Into The West is awesome
Environment: hard to decide if it were New Zealand VS UK but going from what we actually see from the movies i ofc have to go with the Middle Earth its just beautiful)
Built Set (non CG set): LoTR ... they build large parts of Hels Deep, Minas Tirith, Rivendell, ... they build the whole Edoras, ... they build many many miniatures (which are actually quite big)
Difficulty of the sole filming of the movie: LoTR obviously some people actually worked for 7 years on that ... also its extremely hard to film 3 movies of this scale at once
Story: Harry Potter. Some may argue how much they want about children's level and adult's level film/story but the backbone by Rowling is something unique. So, Harry Potter.
The Quality of Movie (Direction): Obviously LOTR, no doubt on that.
Moment-wise: if it was for the books, I'll have a go at Harry Potter but for movies, yes, LoTR because it's better delivered movie-wise and better book-depicted.
Acting: Harry Potter. The cast is really huge and I gotta admit that by personality - they are well-presented from the books. Well, it's a tough one as the same goes for LOTR as well but still, some characters in the movie were a bit plain to me unlike in the books. Now, I watched the LOTR fewer time compared to the more than 100 times that I've watched the Harry Potter series. So yeah, Harry Potter for this one cause I'm more used.
Digital Effects - Both are really impressive but eventually due to 3D presentation afterwards in the last 2 movies, Harry Potter is better. If the last 2 weren't in 3D, I'll say LOTR.
Soundtrack/Music - Harry Potter.
Environment - Harry Potter. See all those location especially in DH part 1 where they travel and travel or the Quidditch World Cup.
Build-Set: Tough one. While LOTR had what Algalon said, HP had Hogwarts, Minister of Magic, Gringotts, Diagon Alley. I'm neutral on this one, sorry.
Difficulty in making: Naturally LOTR.
If I'm counting properly, I'll say Harry Potter on the whole. Also, the impact of HP is amplified for me because I've grown with the characters and passed 10 years of my life with it.
Story: Harry Potter. Some may argue how much they want about children's level and adult's level film/story but the backbone by Rowling is something unique. So, Harry Potter.
The Quality of Movie (Direction): Obviously LOTR, no doubt on that.
Moment-wise: if it was for the books, I'll have a go at Harry Potter but for movies, yes, LoTR because it's better delivered movie-wise and better book-depicted.
Acting: Harry Potter. The cast is really huge and I gotta admit that by personality - they are well-presented from the books. Well, it's a tough one as the same goes for LOTR as well but still, some characters in the movie were a bit plain to me unlike in the books. Now, I watched the LOTR fewer time compared to the more than 100 times that I've watched the Harry Potter series. So yeah, Harry Potter for this one cause I'm more used.
Digital Effects - Both are really impressive but eventually due to 3D presentation afterwards in the last 2 movies, Harry Potter is better. If the last 2 weren't in 3D, I'll say LOTR.
Soundtrack/Music - Harry Potter.
Environment - Harry Potter. See all those location especially in DH part 1 where they travel and travel or the Quidditch World Cup.
Build-Set: Tough one. While LOTR had what Algalon said, HP had Hogwarts, Minister of Magic, Gringotts, Diagon Alley. I'm neutral on this one, sorry.
Difficulty in making: Naturally LOTR.
If I'm counting properly, I'll say Harry Potter on the whole. Also, the impact of HP is amplified for me because I've grown with the characters and passed 10 years of my life with it.
Well, I'm a huuuuge HP fan, though not really what I call being a fanboy.
And coming on your point, well, LOTR is an epic film, they can't really film it in cities. HP and LOTR differs in genre and obviously, so does the culture medium. You're talking about filming in New Zealand as if the whole cast were in like primate conditions.
Even if it's in the city, HP had more diverse locations compared to LOTR. So, I keep my decision. I privilege HP because of the quantity of locations over it's quality and difficulty. It's my view of things, no matter how you contradict me on that.
There are some parts that's hard to differ both genres though as both are unique in their way. Soundtrack, Environment, Build-Set and Story are both great in both HP and LOTR despite being diverse and most of those choices will tilt towards the one that someone loves more or can more easily relate towards. It's more straightforward and more easy to judge Direction level, Moments-wise, Acting, Effects and difficulty of one in making though.
More than half of my life has been through the HP wave and that do biased my decision. It's the same for LOTR fans too though.
How can I blame them if they like LOTR more? It's their choice.
That's why I don't like when two diverse and popular things clash. Both are unique in their ways and both got million of lovers world-wide but the fact remains that they are diverse things.
Story: Harry Potter. Some may argue how much they want about children's level and adult's level film/story but the backbone by Rowling is something unique. So, Harry Potter. Actually the backbone of LoTR is more unique, Tolkien devised a new genre - High Fantasy And HP is a simple story about a wizard (altough good), LoTR has much more depth if you read the book, apendicces, Silmarillion, ... you know what im talking about
The Quality of Movie (Direction): Obviously LOTR, no doubt on that.
Moment-wise: if it was for the books, I'll have a go at Harry Potter I give that momen thingy to LoTR in the books because some moments are just epic, like the ride of the rohirrim
At that sound the bent shape of the king sprang suddenly erect. Tall and proud he seemed again; and rising in his stirrups he cried in a loud voice, more clear than any there had ever heard a mortal man achieve before:
Arise, arise, Riders of Théoden!
Fell deeds awake: fire and slaughter!
spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered,
a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises!
Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!
With that he seized a great horn from Guthláf his banner-bearer, and he blew such a blast upon it that it burst asunder. And straightway all the horns in the host were lifted up in music, and the blowing of the horns of Rohan in that hour was like a storm upon the plain and a thunder in the mountains.
Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!
Suddenly the king cried to Snowmane and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Éomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first éored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Théoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new tire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Oromë the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and the darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them. And then all the host of Rohan burst into song, and they sang as they slew, for the joy of battle was on them, and the sound of their singing that was fair and terrible came even to the City.
and many many more but for movies, yes, LoTR because it's better delivered movie-wise and better book-depicted.
Acting: Harry Potter. The cast is really hugeHP= a lot of the cast but most dont do much + the extras just walk around LoTR= the cast is just as big if not bigger + hundreds and hundreds of extras who fight, wear all the costumes, ... and I gotta admit that by personality - they are well-presented from the books. Well, it's a tough one as the same goes for LOTR as well but still, some characters in the movie were a bit plain to me unlike in the books. Now, I watched the LOTR fewer time compared to the more than 100 times that I've watched the Harry Potter series. So yeah, Harry Potter for this one cause I'm more used.
Digital Effects - Both are really impressive but eventually due to 3D presentation afterwards in the last 2 movies, Harry Potter is better. If the last 2 weren't in 3D, I'll say LOTR. (3D is a much smaller feat than 1500 extremely difficult shots from LoTR 3 and 3k alltogether)
Soundtrack/Music - Harry Potter.
Environment - Harry Potter. See all those location especially in DH part 1 where they travel and travel or the Quidditch World Cup. sorry dude but anyone who has seen both movies agrees LoTR has better landscape, thats one of the facts even my grandma liked the movie XD
Build-Set: Tough one. While LOTR had what Algalon said, HP had Hogwarts, Minister of Magic, Gringotts, Diagon Alley. I'm neutral on this one, sorry. HP has some classrooms and some other rooms, a street, a bank, bmy a forest, ... LoTR had whole city of Edoras (took 8 months to build on an extremely wind hill far away from any city), Giand Helms Deep, a lot of streets from Minas Tirith, Sets with details so minute noone would ever see them but there still there, Osgiliath ruins, a cave behind awaterfall, many many rocky environments, a vouple of forrests, Rivindell, Caras Galathon = Lorien, Grey Heafvens,, they built a whole swamp (the dead marshes), ...
Difficulty in making: Naturally LOTR.
If I'm counting properly, I'll say Harry Potter on the whole. Also, the impact of HP is amplified for me because I've grown with the characters and passed 10 years of my life with it.I respect your choice dont blamne me for this XD
Well, I won't take it as an offense reply. You contrasting argument as enriching and dignified. Plus, even I like LOTR movies/books.
Coming back, I'd like to say that the backbone's uniqueness depends on our taste and I still like HP more. The reason is that in its simplistic story, Rowling literally translated every single page to reality whenever I read it. There's not one single line where I don't feel inside the book whenever I read HP; which is the same case for LOTR also but in parts only. In fact, I'll admit that I'm more hypnotized by Tolkien's language use rather than its story at times. It's so complexly beautiful (much much better than Rowling) that perhaps the uniqueness of the story seems lessened compared to Rowling's work.
Well, perhaps, but I like the moments in HP so much that even more things seems so beautiful to me. LOTR has a lot of epic moments but a lot of parts doesn't really relate to me as much.
Well, the cast of LOTR is huge only in those fighting epic scenes. On the whole, HP has more developed characters I think. Atleast histrionics is seen on all of the cast though, some don't have much to do.
On the angles shots, well, that goes in the Difficulty in filming category. What I meant is that with 3D, the visual outcome is better than LOTR.
I like HP more. And there are a lot more HP soundtracks than the one you've showed me.
It's your view of things. I'm perhaps more biased towards the technological beauties of things and instead of natural beautiful environment. Also, Hogwarts especially is like a dream for me. I never saw something as notable in any other films.
I didn't wanted to make a choice for this one because both movies have the best sets they could have gotten for their respective genres. When you see any sets/locations/parts of HP, someone in your mind, magical is something that do resonates. It's the same for LOTR - you just want to praise it as epic whenever you see it. Now, for the complexities of the sights, well, this goes into in the difficulty in making it.
I can't agree on every points if the film's direction is awesome and difficulty in making it is tremendous. In fact, there is barely a film that perhaps so hard to make as LOTR (perhaps Avatar but even this is tight), that's undeniable.
You'll have to admit on the whole that the fact you love the landscape and story of LOTR, that every point seems perfect to your eyes. Well, for me, the story of HP teleports completely and is so magically translated into movies in terms of visuals, that I barely can deny its merits.
Still, this thread is useless in a way that both films/story is unique in its genres and is remarkable in those. This comparison is futile. We are no Oscar judges (though the Oscar jury needs to re-invent themselves after those disappointing last years but that's another story )
While the books are set in VERY different eras, one unmistakable occurence of theft is the Black Riders/Dementors issue. Both cause serious despair and feed off emotions, and both use terror as their main weapon. ANMD both wear black cloaks.In one interview, the theif claimed she got the idea from a loved one's death. Well, MAYBE a half truth seeing as how the evidence I just listed cannot be coincidence when paired with a ton more thefts. Another is The Old Forest, on the borders of the Shire,and the forbidden forest. Both places have dark, frightening trees, and both are on the borders of a positive land. Also, a forest in The Hobbit, has spiders just like those in HP. It is called Mirkwood. Sauron was later proven to have dwelt there in secret, while HP's villian Voldemort frequents the Forbidden Forest a lot in book 1, and once in book 7. Speaking of villians, Sauron in LOTR is so terrifying that the men of Gondor, a land adjacent to Sauron's land Mordor, is called Him who we do not name. Just like Voldemort! AND both Sauron AND Voldemort stay alive after inital defeat, Sauron with the One Ring and Voldemort with his Horcruxes. To make matters worse (or better if the theif gets caught), both books have talking trees. AND Both books have old men who help out the main characters. Gandalf in LOTR, and DUMBledore (whose name actually comes from Toilken's flying insect in "The Adventures Of Tom Bombadil". Also, the trolls. The 1st cave troll to be seen in LOTR is strikingly similar to HP's. And in LOTR the creature Gollum talks in 3rd person. A character named Dobby in HP does too. Gollum remains loyal to Frodo (main charcacter) to a certain degree and calls Frodo "master". So does Dobby, to HP. In the 1st 3 HP books, Voldemort cannot take physical form. Neither can Sauron. Hence the Eye Of Sauron. A dog named Fang is owned by Farmer Maggot in LOTR, and Hagrid in HP. HP's scar can be related to Frodo's, in that both were caused by evil forces. The Mirror Of Galadriel is copied by the Pensieve. As if all this weren't enough, Longbottom is used by Toilken to describe a tobacco plant, and is used by Rowling The Theif as a name for a person. Good luck explaining that! Mischevious pair in LOTR= Merry & Pippin, and in HP, Fred + George. Hurin LOTR) is the keeper of the keys. Hagrid (HP) has the same title. Both main characters actual parents were murdered, and Frodo has Bilbo to look after him, while HP has Sirius (who looks almost too much like aragorn. Frodo lives with his uncle Bilbo at the start of LOTR, And Harry lives with his uncle Vernon. Two villians, Wormtail (HP) and Wormtounge (LOTR) are present. LOTR FTW
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