Lot of people need to stop thinking itachi is stronger than pain

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Itachi is clearly more powerful than Nagato/Pein. Obito is clearly more powerful than Nagato/Pein as well.

how all of itachi's powers are rendered useless to six paths and dont even bother with that totsuka blitz crap.

 

[Draphsin]

Uhh yeah. Cuz that didn't stop Sakura, now did it?

Actually it did stop her, lol. Chiyo had to help her multiple times. [

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And Kakuzu is faster than her, so he can outmaneuver the sand even better than she did with Chiyo's chakra strings helping her. He can punch hard enough to destroy the puppet, and with Earth Spear, the punch will be even harder. Kakuzu is definitely breaking that puppet.

Sasori can easily use the iron sand as a foothold to get airborne. Kakuzu isnt touching the puppet.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

I think itachi can beat pains six bodies. If one of the get caught in tsykuyomi all of then will there share there vision. And I haven't seen nagato counter genjutsu.

 

[Sir Blades]

how all of itachi's powers are rendered useless to six paths and dont even bother with that totsuka blitz crap.

He thinks that the paths are just gonna be standing there like idiots and wait for Itachi to seal them. They have shared vision which makes it extremely difficult to target them individually and even as a group. That guys doesnt know what's he's talking about.

 

[Trollasaur]

Ms obito
Pain
Itachi
Kisame
Kakazu
Sasori
Deidara
Zetsu
hidan

I think Deadira has a decent chance on beating Eatichi

 

[SharinganisOP]

how all of itachi's powers are rendered useless to six paths and dont even bother with that totsuka blitz crap.

Already bothered with it, and what renders yata mirror, amaterasu, and totsuka blade utterly useless exactly?

Guys, this guy thinks Itachi has eight arms to one shot totsuka several summons and gedo and all paths at the same time.
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Itachi doesn't have 8 arms, but Sussano has several arms one which holds a shield that blocks any attacks long enough for him to take out all the summons and gedo with his totsuka sword or burn them with amaterasu. Not to mention they also have to get through susano's defense before they can touch Itachi. with any of their moves, giving Itachi plenty of time.

Oh no, you called me stupid with a picture of roger. An alien so stupid he thought he was the decider, nope a crash test dummy. A picture of a stupid person calling me stupid doesn't really have an effect.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Gedo is powerful, but an easy target. Totsuka blade one shot seal. Amaterasu one shot burned.

Gedou Mazo can create shockwaves. Itachi tries to get close to strike it with Totsuka, Mazou punches the ground, creating a shockwave that makes him lose his balance and footing, effectively cutting off Itachi's ability to move around. At the same time, Deva creates Chibaku Tensei and launches it into the air. Itachi is distracted, and can't stop the gravity orb. Chibaku Tensei is done game for him.

Chibaku tensei. It is unknown whether or not his long rage move by its self could have destroyed it, but it is possible. Regardless if he knows about chibaku tensei, he won't get allow him to do it.

Same scenario above. As for whether or not the Magatama could have destroyed it, consider this, the Chibaku orb was capable of holding what has to be billions of tons on it. Since the orb emits a powerful force of gravity, that means all that weight is constantly pushing pressure down on it. No Magatama is destroying that orb. Nothing Itachi has can destroy it.

Asura path is nothing, Itachi is able to move extremely quickly and can dodge the most intense attacks easily.

Not if Asura launches all of those bombs at Itachi. While Itachi is defending against that, the other Paths or summons can strike him. Or, Chibaku Tensei.

Large scale shinra tensei leaves the deva path unusable for a certain length of time. Blocks it with yata mirror and makes him waste it.

Who said Pein will launch the large scale right away? Nothing's stopping the Animal Path and Asura path from launching constant barrages of attacks on Itachi. Birds dive at Itachi, Cerebrus dogs attacking at him, Asura launching bombs and lasers constantly, Itachi needs to keep up Susano'o to survive. And he can't keep that up for too long, a few minutes and he's done. Then, boom, Shinra Tensei turns Itachi into a bloody mess under tons of rubble. Shit, even a mid-sized Shinra Tensei like what Pein did to Kaashi before the nail attack would suffice.

Birrage of summons? Totsuka sword seals them or he fodderizes the summons like he did in the fight with nagato.

Totsuka doesn't seal instantly and Pein can launch multiple large animals at once. The ram would charge and Itachi, Itachi stabs it with Totsuka. As we've seen with the sealing of Oro's Eight Branches and seen Nagato, the sealing process is slow, which allows the other summons like rhinos, birds, dogs and bull to safely and openly attack Itachi.

You tell me how Nagato will get past all of Itacih's genjutsu, sussano with yata mirror+totsuka sword+magatama, and amaterasu.

Shinra Tensei pushes Itachi back until he loses stamina for Susano'o, which is a few minutes. Shinra Tensei and Preta Path handle Amaterasu and Magatama. As for Genjutsu, all the Peins' chakra are connected. Meaning if one is in Genjutsu, Deva Path can expel a Shinra Tensei. This will push Itachi back, as well as release all Peins from Genjutsu since the expulsion of chakra will disrupt and expel Itachi's Genjutsu-causing chakra.

Amaterasu immediately takes out 4 of the six paths of pain. The only ones that can survive it are preta path and deva path (if he can use shinra tensei to blow them away before hes burnt), while preta path is absorbing it, totsuka sword. Boom down to 1 left. And the deva path who is extremely badly burned is nothing in front of the eyes of Itachi.

Once again no. Preta Path handles it. Also, Nagato can sense Amaterasu coming. Nagato would just launch an attack at Itachi, such as Asura bombs or Summons, that will force Itachi to redirect his Amaterasu. That's a shot wasted that will probably cause Itachi enough discomfort to grab his eye and shrink down a bit, leaving him open to an attack or for Pein to activate Chibaku Tensei.

 

[End of Days]

yes pein is stronger, this has been discussed many times and the general consensus is that pein wins

what people forget is that MS has terrible side effects on itachi which leaves him unable to move for a short interval, which leaves for an easy opening

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so lets say that itachi uses amaterasu to get rid of one or two of the giant summons, he falls to the ground from the pain and then one of the paths can then attack from behind (itachi's blind spot)

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this is just one of the ways pein can win, there are numerous scenarios with pein winning almost all of them
even if itachi blocks all attacks by managing to use susanoo at the right time he would die from exerting himself so much

 

[Xēnovia.]

I think Deadira has a decent chance on beating Eatichi

Damn...those cold hard phanks...cased closed. in4butthurts/not giving one single shit.​

 

[Ababeel]

OP, good luck making itachi's fans think anyone can beat him. U_U

 

[Trollasaur]

Damn...those cold hard phanks...cased closed. in4butthurts/not giving one single shit.​

phank?????

 

[Punk Hazard]

Actually it did stop her, lol. Chiyo had to help her multiple times. [

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Sasori can easily use the iron sand as a foothold to get airborne. Kakuzu isnt touching the puppet.

I clearly said Kakuzu is faster than Sakura with Chiyo's help, so if Sakura with Chiyo's help got past, so can Kakuzu.


Really? Remember when Shikamaru was on that roof? Kakuzu got up there quickly and with ease to punch at him. Kakuzu can get that puppet while it's airbourne. Also, the Wind Mask can fly. It flies above them and launches a Pressure Damage downwards, the Pressure Damage destroys the puppet. If Sasori creates a shield with Iron Sand, and we assume Iron Sand can defend against it, it leaves him open and distracted to an attack from another mask from below. The lightning mask will easily bypass the Iron Sand, since it will probably disturb the magnetic field allowing Sasori to control the iron sand and the Lightning would be conducted by the Iron and melt through it. That large spear that Kakashi had to block with Raikri, imagine multiple of those being launched at Sasori. Done game.

 

[Xēnovia.]

phank?????

It's apparentlya new slag "facts" that I'm seeing in ND lately. e.e​

 

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I think itachi can beat pains six bodies. If one of the get caught in tsykuyomi all of then will there share there vision. And I haven't seen nagato counter genjutsu.

it doesnt work like that. one path was trapped in the interrogation genjutsu and it didnt affect the others hell it barely affected him. you cant torture a dead body itachi would just weaken himself by using tsukuyomi

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Wait don't all six paths share the same vision. Itachi tskyomi can catch all of them. Thru sight and be rendered useless. Even nagato might get caught in the genjutsu where ever he is hiding.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

it doesnt work like that. one path was trapped in the interrogation genjutsu and it didnt affect the others hell it barely affected him. you cant torture a dead body itachi would just weaken himself by using tsukuyomi

Umm they all see what eachother are seeing I'm afraid it does. That genjutsu happened too one of the pain bodies ot was thru the sharingan. If he looks at human path all the other paths can see what human path is looking at aswell catching them in genjutsu. Also nagato is looking thru there eyes aswell. He can get caught

 

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Already bothered with it, and what renders yata mirror, amaterasu, and totsuka blade utterly useless exactly?


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madara rendered amaterasu useless by absorbing it come again, itachi doesnt have ems using final susanoo to get totsuka and yata will render him blind in minutes.

 

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Umm they all see what eachother are seeing I'm afraid it does. That genjutsu happened too one of the pain bodies ot was thru the sharingan. If he looks at human path all the other paths can see what human path is looking at aswell catching them in genjutsu. Also nagato is looking thru there eyes aswell. He can get caught

how can you tortue something that cant feel pain? they see what each other see but it doesnt affect them, if it did all ibiki would have stopped all paths because he caught one and it didnt affect nagato and from it doesnt affect nagato its worthless.

 

[Draphsin]

I clearly said Kakuzu is faster than Sakura with Chiyo's help, so if Sakura with Chiyo's help got past, so can Kakuzu.

Proof? Or are you assuming that kakuzu is faster than chiyo. Its already proven that her reactions are top notch due to her puppet mastery.

& the DB lists them both to be a 4 in speed, yet chiyo has the edge in taijutsu & intelligence. If anything kakuzu is on par with chiyo's speed & that's not going to cut it when she couldnt even avoid satetsu spears.

Really? Remember when Shikamaru was on that roof? Kakuzu got up there quickly and with ease to punch at him. Kakuzu can get that puppet while it's airbourne.

Kakuzu isnt blitzing sasori while he's barraging him with sand pellets/spears.

Sasori is rising high enough to avoid a shunshin, that's the whole point of flight.

Kakuzu would have to jump forward, directly into a satetsu barrage if he decides to go for the punch, short range kakuzu gets torn up before he gets close to sasori.

Also, the Wind Mask can fly. It flies above them and launches a Pressure Damage downwards, the Pressure Damage destroys the puppet.

Satetsu spears are fast enough to pierce the masks, hell even a small pellet from drizzle is enough to break the mask, all it takes is accuracy & sand on sasori's part, sasori has plenty of sand & he can even barrage kakuzu while he's expelling his hearts. I seriously doubt the wind mask is landing a hit before he gets a spear to the face.

If Sasori creates a shield with Iron Sand, and we assume Iron Sand can defend against it, it leaves him open and distracted to an attack from another mask from below.

Why would he need to be on the defensive? an iron block can crush kakuzu if he tries to expel his hearts, this takes care of any masks that try to escape the initial assault via satetsu.

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The lightning mask will easily bypass the Iron Sand, since it will probably disturb the magnetic field allowing Sasori to control the iron sand the Lightning would be conducted by the Iron and be melt through it. That large spear that Kakashi had to block with Raikri, imagine multiple of those being launched at Sasori. Done game.

This is assumption, & why can't sasori pull out his 100 puppets for defense as well. those puppets along with the kazekage would equal the end of the match.

& yes sasori should be able to control them all due to the fact that he uses the puppets chakra & not his own to perform the jutsus.

 

[SharinganisOP]

Gedou Mazo can create shockwaves. Itachi tries to get close to strike it with Totsuka, Mazou punches the ground, creating a shockwave that throws Itachi off balance and makes him lose his balance and fotting, effectively cutting off Itachi's ability to move around. At the same time, Deva creates Chibaku Tensei and launches it into the air. Itachi is distracted, and can't stop the gravity orb. Chibaku Tensei is done game fro him.


Same scenario above. As for whether or not the Magatama could have destroyed it, consider this, the Chibaku orb was capable of holding what has to be billions of tons on it. Since the orb emits a powerful force of gravity, that means all that weight is constantly pushing pressure down on it. No Magatama is destroying that orb. Nothing Itachi has can destroy it.


Not if Asura launches all of those bombs at Itachi. While Itachi is defending against that, the other Paths or summons can strike him. Or, Chibaku Tensei.



Who said Pein will launch the large scale right away? Nothing's stopping the Animal Path and Asura path from launching constant barrages of attacks on Itachi. Birds dive at Itachi, Cerebrus dogs attacking at him, Asura launching bombs and lasers constantly, Itachi needs to keep up Susano'o to survive. And he can't keep that up for too long, a few minutes and he's done. Then, boom, Shinra Tensei turns Itachi into a bloody mess under tons of rubble. Shit, even a mid-sized Shinra Tensei like what Pein did to Kaashi before the nail attack would suffice.


Totsuka doesn't seal instantly and Pein can launch multiple large animals at once. The ram would charge and Itachi, Itachi stabs it with Totsuka. The other summons like rhinos, birds, dogs and bull is not safe to attack Itachi.


Shinra Tensei pushes Itachi back until he loses stamina for Susano'o, which is a few minutes. Shinra Tensei and Preta Path handle Amaterasu and Magatama. As for Genjutsu, all the Peins' chakra are connected. Meaning if one is in Genjutsu, Deva Path can expel a Shinra Tensei. This will push Itachi back, as well as release all Peins from Genjutsu since the expulsion of chakra will disrupt and expel Itachi's Genjutsu-causing chakra.



Once again no. Preta Path handles it. Also, Nagato can sense Amaterasu coming. Nagato would just launch an attack at Itachi, such as Asura bombs or Summons, that will force Itachi to redirect his Amaterasu. That's a shot wasted that will probably cause Itachi enough discomfort to grab his eye and shrink down a bit, leaving him open to an attack or for Pein to activate Chibaku Tensei.

So how far away are we starting this battle? We starting this fight a mile away so the gedo has time to actually move? I was thinking the fight would start out with them you know relatively close to each other... not so far away from eachother they wouldn't even notice the other's presence. At any real distance that Itachi would be between the gedo he can cover before the gedo's slow huge ass moves. Not to mention Sussano can be used while moving so all Itachi has to do is Dodge until he gets close while sussano protects him, which for Itachi is easy.

Just because chibaku tensei is capable of holding up a lot of wieght doesn't mean it can't be fragile. I won't say that it is weak, but it may be able to be destroyed by the magatama. The ball could be somewhat like an egg. Eggs can hold a lot of weight up but are extremely fragile depending on the type of force you put on it. Yes not as fragile as an egg, but my point is it doesn't have to be extremely powerful to hold up a lot of weight. Also, Chibaku tensei takes time to use and it would seem that deva path has to be within a certain distance of pein to be able to use it.

All those bombs? He can dodge or block with sussano. Probably would be a combo of the two. The other pains aren't getting through his sussano, and Itachi won't let deva path use chibaku tensei.

I didn't say he would launch the large scale right away, that's just what you listed. So i gave a counter. You think way to highly of the summons, before Itachi's eyes they are nothing. Itachi won't be put into such a position to be shinra tensei' into the ground.

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Totsuka sword or amaterasu, either one works. Even though it doesn't seal instantly only the dog regenerates and he would only have to seal the dog. He can cut down the rest with sword if they try attacking him and yes the sword is strong enough to cut through the summons.

Shinra tensei is nullified by yata mirror for one, and for two nagato can't keep up shinra tensei for minutes... Preta path can't block amaterasu on all of them. honestly they burn to fast for him to protect himself with shinra tensei, nagato wouldn't be able to control them with chakra rods if their arms and shit are burnt off. preta path is the only hope against Itachi, and he can only protect one. So he protects the naraka path or deva path, but either way they are screwed. Nagato can't perform an attack faster than amaterasu, at best he protects one path with preta path.

amaterasu> Pein

Edit: @ Kazekaine Where does it say Madara used the preta path to absorb amaterasu? also clearly Madara was hacking even if he used preta path to absorb after it hit him, he wasn't even burned. Clearly something else was making it not hurt Madara.