Lot of people need to stop thinking itachi is stronger than pain

[Sir Blades]

So how far away are we starting this battle? We starting this fight a mile away so the gedo has time to actually move? I was thinking the fight would start out with them you know relatively close to each other... not so far away from eachother they wouldn't even notice the other's presence. At any real distance that Itachi would be between the gedo he can cover before the gedo's slow huge ass moves. Not to mention Sussano can be used while moving so all Itachi has to do is Dodge until he gets close while sussano protects him, which for Itachi is easy.

Just because chibaku tensei is capable of holding up a lot of wieght doesn't mean it can't be fragile. I won't say that it is weak, but it may be able to be destroyed by the magatama. The ball could be somewhat like an egg. Eggs can hold a lot of weight up but are extremely fragile depending on the type of force you put on it. Yes not as fragile as an egg, but my point is it doesn't have to be extremely powerful to hold up a lot of weight. Also, Chibaku tensei takes time to use and it would seem that deva path has to be within a certain distance of pein to be able to use it.

All those bombs? He can dodge or block with sussano. Probably would be a combo of the two. The other pains aren't getting through his sussano, and Itachi won't let deva path use chibaku tensei.

I didn't say he would launch the large scale right away, that's just what you listed. So i gave a counter. You think way to highly of the summons, before Itachi's eyes they are nothing. Itachi won't be put into such a position to be shinra tensei' into the ground.

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Totsuka sword or amaterasu, either one works. Even though it doesn't seal instantly only the dog regenerates and he would only have to seal the dog. He can cut down the rest with sword if they try attacking him and yes the sword is strong enough to cut through the summons.

Shinra tensei is nullified by yata mirror for one, and for two nagato can't keep up shinra tensei for minutes... Preta path can't block amaterasu on all of them. honestly they burn to fast for him to protect himself with shinra tensei, nagato wouldn't be able to control them with chakra rods if their arms and shit are burnt off. preta path is the only hope against Itachi, and he can only protect one. So he protects the naraka path or deva path, but either way they are screwed. Nagato can't perform an attack faster than amaterasu, at best he protects one path with preta path.

amaterasu> Pein

Edit: @ Kazekaine Where does it say Madara used the preta path to absorb amaterasu? also clearly Madara was hacking even if he used preta path to absorb after it hit him, he wasn't even burned. Clearly something else was making it not hurt Madara.

How does it feel to ride Itachis peacock so hard?
Give yourself a break.

 

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Shinra tensei is nullified by yata mirror for one, and for two nagato can't keep up shinra tensei for minutes... Preta path can't block amaterasu on all of them. honestly they burn to fast for him to protect himself with shinra tensei, nagato wouldn't be able to control them with chakra rods if their arms and shit are burnt off. preta path is the only hope against Itachi, and he can only protect one. So he protects the naraka path or deva path, but either way they are screwed. Nagato can't perform an attack faster than amaterasu, at best he protects one path with preta path.

amaterasu> Pein

Edit: @ Kazekaine Where does it say Madara used the preta path to absorb amaterasu? also clearly Madara was hacking even if he used preta path to absorb after it hit him, he wasn't even burned. Clearly something else was making it not hurt Madara.

what other ability does madara have to absorb jutsu? went he absorb rasenshuriken everyone knew it was a preta path, amaterasu is a ninjutsu it gets absorbed.
yata mirror wont work on shinra tensei, shinra tensei isnt a nature type so yata doesnt have anything to change to so it can nullify it, honest do you even know about these abilities you're talking about?

 

[xcoyote]

Pain babyshakes.

 

[SharinganisOP]

what other ability does madara have to absorb jutsu? went he absorb rasenshuriken everyone knew it was a preta path, amaterasu is a ninjutsu it gets absorbed.
yata mirror wont work on shinra tensei, shinra tensei isnt a nature type so yata doesnt have anything to change to so it can nullify it, honest do you even know about these abilities you're talking about?

I don't know what other absorbing ability he has, but he was using the ability without any eyes and it was shown when he was an edo that he needed rinnegan to absorb using the preta path, which is why i think its a different technique. Since he didn't get burned at all by it definitely makes me think he was using some different technique. Also the yata mirror can block physical attacks as well as chakra attacks. what is being blocked doesn't have to have a chakra nature to be blocked, such as throwable weapons. Also who says that shinra tensei isn't some form of yin/yang ability. It is definitely comprised of some sort of chakra and thus the yata mirror should be able to stop it.

How does it feel to ride Itachis peacock so hard?
Give yourself a break.

I said that Itachi is stronger than pein/Nagato and I'm backing that up, that is all I'm doing and I fine doing such fun and entertaining. I do not wish to take a break from anything.

Now i shall pose a question to you. How does it feel to hate on Itachi, when he is clearly stronger than Pein?

 

[ReverseZero12]

This isn't debatable. Pain massacres itachi. The difference in strength is clear. I don't get why people on websites like these have to wank him so much.

 

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I don't know what other absorbing ability he has, but he was using the ability without any eyes and it was shown when he was an edo that he needed rinnegan to absorb using the preta path, which is why i think its a different technique. Since he didn't get burned at all by it definitely makes me think he was using some different technique. Also the yata mirror can block physical attacks as well as chakra attacks. what is being blocked doesn't have to have a chakra nature to be blocked, such as throwable weapons. Also who says that shinra tensei isn't some form of yin/yang ability. It is definitely comprised of some sort of chakra and thus the yata mirror should be able to stop it.

he also used susanoo without eyes is that also a different technique?

 

[Xāvî1]

Gedo is powerful, but an easy target. Totsuka blade one shot seal. Amaterasu one shot burned.

Chibaku tensei. It is unknown whether or not his long rage move by its self could have destroyed it, but it is possible. Regardless if he knows about chibaku tensei, he won't get allow him to do it.

Asura path is nothing, Itachi is able to move extremely quickly and can dodge the most intense attacks easily.

Large scale shinra tensei leaves the deva path unusable for a certain length of time. Blocks it with yata mirror and makes him waste it. Shirna tensei is not the only jutsu in nagato's arsenal. And for how long can itachi keep on fighting... Nagato has more chakra then Itachi.. and out lasts him

Birrage of summons? Totsuka sword seals them or he fodderizes the summons like he did in the fight with nagato. You have to pierce the real user........

You tell me how Nagato will get past all of Itacih's genjutsu, sussano with yata mirror+totsuka sword+magatama, and amaterasu. Nagato uses dead bodies, Unlike the frogs itachi can cast genjutsu on one path at a time... Susanoo is made out of chakra gakido sucks all chakra out...
The paths are too agile and fast to be attacked by totsuka- specially with tendo around its a bit risky

Amaterasu immediately takes out 4 of the six paths of pain. The only ones that can survive it are preta path and deva path (if he can use shinra tensei to blow them away before hes burnt), while preta path is absorbing it, totsuka sword. Boom down to 1 left. And the deva path who is extremely badly burned is nothing in front of the eyes of Itachi. - Shinra Tensei Says Hi...

Edit: @ Sir Blades of chaos : Oh no, ouch that stings. A person on the internet called me stupid with a picture. - Because youre one

Yeah it took a bijuu dama , FRS, Yasataka magataka to destroy CT, I bet itachi even who he is doesn't have that kind of fire power.....

 

[SharinganisOP]

he also used susanoo without eyes is that also a different technique?

I don't know how he did it and I don't think anyone does know right now. We just have to guess, hopefully it will explain how he did it later. That technique is definitely sussano, but there is probably something allowing him to use the technique. Also he clearly wanted his eyes back because he couldn't use certain techniques without them, so its not surprising for me to think that it was a different technique. Many people on the base thought/think the absorbtion was a different technique from preta path.

@Kuuybi, because they tried to attack it by themselves at all? No i don't believe they did. We don't know if one of them could take it down, it is entirely possible. Also they didn't have a direct attack on it, it was through a bunch of rocks. if they could get a direct attack that would make it much weaker for sure. Also, I don't want to argue with you since I've argued with you before and you thought that Shinra tensei had the power to destroy an entire country, which it doesn't.

 

[Sir Blades]

I don't know what other absorbing ability he has, but he was using the ability without any eyes and it was shown when he was an edo that he needed rinnegan to absorb using the preta path, which is why i think its a different technique. Since he didn't get burned at all by it definitely makes me think he was using some different technique. Also the yata mirror can block physical attacks as well as chakra attacks. what is being blocked doesn't have to have a chakra nature to be blocked, such as throwable weapons. Also who says that shinra tensei isn't some form of yin/yang ability. It is definitely comprised of some sort of chakra and thus the yata mirror should be able to stop it.



I said that Itachi is stronger than pein/Nagato and I'm backing that up, that is all I'm doing and I fine doing such fun and entertaining. I do not wish to take a break from anything.

Now i shall pose a question to you. How does it feel to hate on Itachi, when he is clearly stronger than Pein?

I have respect for Itachi, but he is not stronger than Pain.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

How does it feel to ride Itachis peacock so hard?
Give yourself a break.

You sir are ready for Prime Time.

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[SharinganisOP]

I have respect for Itachi, but he is not stronger than Pain.

I'm glad that you have respect for Itachi but I say to you that Itachi is stronger than Pain. You haven't really said why you don't think Itachi is stronger yourself. You've pretty much just said Pain is stronger and left it at that the whole time. I would like to hear your opinion on why you think Pain is stronger.

 

[-Punk-]

.Pein.
.Itachi.
.Obito.
.Deidara.
.Kisame.
.Sasori.
.Kakuzu.
.Konan.
.Zetsu.
.Hidan.

Pein > Itachi .

 

[irukaumino26]

Pein TRUMPS Itachi all day, every day!

I don't understand why Itachi fanboys always say! Sword seals him! Sword seals him! Then he'll amaterasu! Then he'll seal them! Then trap them in his genjutsu!! Itachi win!!

That's equivalent to a Pein fanboy saying:
Itachi goes for the sword genjutsu! -SHINRA TENSEI!
Itachi uses amaterasu! - SHINRA TENSEI!
Itachi uses susanno! - SHINRA TENSEI!
PEIN uses CHIBAKU TENSEI! OMGAWD, PEIN WINS!!!

See how silly saying Itachi using Sword of Totsuka sounds? Itachi has the mirror! IT BLOCKS SHINRA TENSEI! Itachi has the mirror! IT BLOCKS CHIBAKU TENSEI! ITACHI SEALS ONE PAIN! ITACHI SEALS TWO PAINS! ITACHI SEALS THREE PAINS! THE SWORD HITS EVERYTHING!

Look at Pein's feats:
-He destroyed the entire village
-He killed Kakashi
-He killed Chouji's dad
-He killed Shizune
-He killed Hinata
-He killed countless shinobi and Anbu
-He killed Pa Toad
-He sent 3 giant Toad summons to the hospital
-He killed countless shinobi and anbu

This was all on ONE given day! By himself! Let's be honest, if it wasn't for Hinata and his dad, Naruto would've been captured LONG ago. Pein should still technically be alive.

Oh, and let's not forget his other achievements:
-Pein killed Jiraiya
-Pein killed Hanzo

The TRUTH is...PEIN whoops Itachi's sorry butt all day long! Even if Itachi wasn't "ill", he'd STILL get his @ss stomped! If Itachi managed to defeat all 6 of the bodies...guess what? It's STILL a stalemate regardless because he doesn't have the abilities to track where Nagato is. So even if Itachi "wins", it's still a TIE! And don't get me started if this was Itachi vs healthy Nagato. It would just be a plain massacre.

Itachi fanboys need to go home. Itachi isn't known for stamina, and he has a low reserve of chakra. Using Tsukuyomi on a dead Pein body is a waste of chakra, and he can only hold Susanno for 5-10 minutes at most. Deva path can freakin' fly for crying out loud. Itachi is as good as dead.

 

[-immortal-]

Pain sama Wins Neg diff. Itachi biggest fear

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itachi has not even 1 attack to break shinra tensei

1.totsuka gets blitzed
2.yatta gets pushed

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Pain solos itachi laughable diff by those attacks. does he even need those attacks is the question​

 

[Haizaki]

.Pein.
.Itachi.
.Obito.
.Deidara.
.Kisame.
.Sasori.
.Kakuzu.
.Konan.
.Zetsu.
.Hidan.

Pein > Itachi .

Obito is above pain and itachi

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

how can you tortue something that cant feel pain? they see what each other see but it doesnt affect them, if it did all ibiki would have stopped all paths because he caught one and it didnt affect nagato and from it doesnt affect nagato its worthless.

Why are just assuming every genjutsis for torture if I can recall jiraiyia didn't torture the three bodies he is stopped there movemebts. Ibiki was part of the torture unit so he would do that type of genjutsu. If all six body's are fighting him and one gets caught in the visual mangkyoy sharingan all of them can get caught period amd itachi can stop there movements. He doesn't have too torture he can just stop them from moving long enough to disable there bodies. And it's obvious that nagato does not think while he fights and can be easily tricked like kakashi did too him. Itachi can beat him.

 

[xxSAGExx]

I think itachi can beat pains six bodies. If one of the get caught in tsykuyomi all of then will there share there vision. And I haven't seen nagato counter genjutsu.

No, All Share the vision but not all would get caught in a genjutsu if the others are since when Naruto block the sight of 1 path not all were blind. They can use their shared vision to see their opponent's moves and evade it with ease even if the one being attacked isn't looking. This allows the paths and the summons to evade attacks and counter attacks. Also The only type of genjutsu shown to work on Nagato was sound genjutsu since the Rinnegan can't defend from it.

The Rinnegan created all jutsus so I doubt visual genjutsus would even work or else Edo Itachi would have used it on Edo Nagato when he already tried using it on Bee (he didn't know Prefect Jins were immune) and his while plan for beating Kabuto revolved around genjutsu yet he never attempt to use it on Nagato.

Gedo is powerful, but an easy target. Totsuka blade one shot seal. Amaterasu one shot burned.

Chibaku tensei. It is unknown whether or not his long rage move by its self could have destroyed it, but it is possible. Regardless if he knows about chibaku tensei, he won't get allow him to do it.

Asura path is nothing, Itachi is able to move extremely quickly and can dodge the most intense attacks easily.

Large scale shinra tensei leaves the deva path unusable for a certain length of time. Blocks it with yata mirror and makes him waste it.

Birrage of summons? Totsuka sword seals them or he fodderizes the summons like he did in the fight with nagato.

You tell me how Nagato will get past all of Itacih's genjutsu, sussano with yata mirror+totsuka sword+magatama, and amaterasu.

Amaterasu immediately takes out 4 of the six paths of pain. The only ones that can survive it are preta path and deva path (if he can use shinra tensei to blow them away before hes burnt), while preta path is absorbing it, totsuka sword. Boom down to 1 left. And the deva path who is extremely badly burned is nothing in front of the eyes of Itachi.

Edit: @ Sir Blades of chaos : Oh no, ouch that stings. A person on the internet called me stupid with a picture.

Itachi asking Naruto and Bee to aid him is us knowing Itachi's long range attacks weren't enough. Did he ask them to help him any other time in that fight? No cause Kabuto was focused on Naruto and Bee and used that chance to blind Nagato's summons and then after receiving help with destroying the CT, Plot made Kabuto not ST the totsuka and blamed his immobility. Itachi himself said he fail because he tried to do everything himself (referring to his plan) so he wouldn't ask for help unless he needed it, he learned that he should ask for help when needed.

Itachi can move to dodge so well because of the Sharingan's predictive ability, Rinnegan is 2 levels above Itachi's MS and has shared vision that he used to evade or counter attacks effortlessly as shown when Jiraiya fought him. He also use the 6 paths in union to overwhelm their opponent with 6 kage level ninjas all at once if he choose to. He took out the 6 tail jinchuuriki with ease.

Nagato/Deva have no reason to use Almighty push, he did that to destroy a village, he didn't need to use it at all but did it to show them pain. He wouldn't use it while in a fight when it leaves him weaken after, he already beat everyone when he used it in Konoha then Naruto came. Amaterasu would be sensed and can be countered or pulled off from summons or other paths. Nagato also was said to master all 6 elements at a young age, Kishi powered him down by not letting Nagato use any element jutsus, not even yin yang.

No visual genjutsu was shown to work on Nagato, Itachi didn't even try it on Nagato for obvious reasons, it wouldn't work. Why would he use it on Bee (Itachi never shown to know Perfect Jins were immune) and Kabuto but not Nagato who was the strongest of the 4 people he fought as a edo. That's Like saying Sasuke using 3 tomoes could trap Itachi in genjutsu when he have MS; Rinnegan is 2 levels above MS and Nagato is over Senju or Uchiha, he's a path of the Sage which is both combined.

How does Amaterasu takes out 4 Peins? Itachi can't look at all 4 at once, his Amaterasu isn't that big and Pein would sense it and be prepared by attacking Itachi with his missiles, laser, have his bird summon drop it's exploding eggs, or ST Itachi miles away which he used on 3 giant toads and Gamabuta broke all his bones from it. magatama gets repelled or blasted by asura path's missiles or lasers. Totsuka wouldn't get close since Deva already blast 3 Giant toads who are around the same size as a Bijuu (1 tails) miles away. Itachi also have his disease, MS side effects and going blind. Susanoo aches every cell in the body for Sasuke who wondered how bad it must have been for Itachi who was ill. He's not keeping Susanoo up long.