Lord Sasuke?

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Go and reread the use of titles in real world. Dear Lord. You just argue for the sake of arguing, don't you? As long as he is alive, he can start the Clan and carries on its name and prestige. Why is that simple fact not getting through to you? Even people who die carry on the titles on their graves and are remembered by them.

Your arguments have no baking behind them, other than the simple fact that you dislike Sasuke and like to argue anyway.
And you go read about Japanese honorifics and their usage in the real world.
Sama isnt a title. It's a honorific used to show respect or admiration. Get that through your head.
Also one can't be a "Lord" or have any authority if his Lordship or authority isn't acknowledged by anyone.
 
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And you go read about Japanese honorifics and their usage in the real world.
Sama isnt a title. It's a honorific used to show respect or admiration. Get that through your head.
Also one can't be a "Lord" or have any authority if his Lordship or authority isn't acknowledged by anyone.
In English, an honorific is a title. Japanese language is just far more versatile. It even has a separate pronoun system, which English doesn't have. In Japan, Sama is used for higher ranking individual as well. Given that Naruto has nothing to do with real world and quite a lot of aspects are drawn from feudal Japan, maybe you should drop Wikipedia and look into actual history.

What nonsense. Lord is a title given to barons, aristocrats etc. Even if all family members die and the general public doesn't call them by their title, it doesn't change their heritage or their family prestige. It's like I am talking to a kid. Argument for the sake of argument.
 

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When Sasuke joined Sound 4 back in part one, they used this title to address him.
They didn't exactly take his orders and they were planning to take him to Oro so that he could take over Sasuke's body, not exactly something that is good to be a lord for if that means being worn by someone else.
 

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They didn't exactly take his orders and they were planning to take him to Oro so that he could take over Sasuke's body, not exactly something that is good to be a lord for if that means being worn by someone else.
The main idea was that Sasuke was called lord, nothing more. What you replayed, is irrelevant.
 

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In English, an honorific is a title. Japanese language is just far more versatile. It even has a separate pronoun system, which English doesn't have. In Japan, Sama is used for higher ranking individual as well. Given that Naruto has nothing to do with real world and quite a lot of aspects are drawn from feudal Japan, maybe you should drop Wikipedia and look into actual history.
No it's not . Honorifics comes after a person's name. Titles come before a person's name. Titles are usually bestowed and have a fixed meaning. Honorifics don't."Sama" can mean anyone from one's customers, someone older than you, or a superior. It's not exclusive to officials. Also honorifics don't officially become part of one's name like titles. For example if Tsunade is signing a letter she won't sign it as "Tsunade Senju Sama".
Given that no one seems to know or has acknowledged Sasuke as the head of the extinct Uchiha clan, it's most likely Aoda's use of "sama" was because of the master-servant relationship between them. The toads call Jiraiya "sama too. Is a Jiraiya a clan head too? Is he royalty? No. They call him "sama" simply because he's their master.
 

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Sasuke > Hagoromo because even if he was Evil He enslaved Rikoudos Powers
Sasuke > nv (riko powers)

sasuke > nardo (4-2)

sasuke is the best character in NV history or even manga

lord sasuke saves
lord sasuke makes
lord sasuke createded and destroyed. he is the beginning and the end

preacj
 

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No it's not . Honorifics comes after a person's name. Titles come before a person's name. Titles are usually bestowed and have a fixed meaning. Honorifics don't."Sama" can mean anyone from one's customers, someone older than you, or a superior. It's not exclusive to officials. Also honorifics don't officially become part of one's name like titles. For example if Tsunade is signing a letter she won't sign it as "Tsunade Senju Sama".
Given that no one seems to know or has acknowledged Sasuke as the head of the extinct Uchiha clan, it's most likely Aoda's use of "sama" was because of the master-servant relationship between them. The toads call Jiraiya "sama too. Is a Jiraiya a clan head too? Is he royalty? No. They call him "sama" simply because he's their master.
LOL

Different languages have different scripts, different title systems, different pronoun systems etc etc. It all depends upon the grammatical systems within a Language. English and Japanese are not even remotely comparable in terms of Hierarchy of grammar and the overall syntax or Pronoun systems. English ones such as Mr, Miss, Master, Madam, Sir etc are Prefix type honorifics, Japanese ones are Suffix types.

Just drop it, man. You have no idea what you are even talking about.
 
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